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AIBU to feel uneasy about male staff in nurseries?

467 replies

Beautifulsiro56 · 06/04/2026 22:56

Males working in my cbildrends nursery- makes me feel so uncomfortable
Why would a male want to work in a nursery? Most nursery abuse cases are men.
Men shouldn't be allowed to work in nurseries? AIBU

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GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:08

CharlotteRumpling · 08/04/2026 18:06

Oh just realised you are a man aren't you @GlovedhandsCecilia?

No. I am a Black woman. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a man. Grow up and stop being such a misogynist
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CharlotteRumpling · 08/04/2026 18:11

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:08

No. I am a Black woman. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a man. Grow up and stop being such a misogynist
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Fair enough. Many are though. So I like to ask.

I still think your claim that all black men help with childcare and housework seems optimistic.
I think it's rather misogynistic to not allow parents the choice to choose their nursery worker, but you do you.

JumpinJellyfish · 08/04/2026 18:14

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:03

If you wanted to eliminate the risk as much as you could, you wouldnt start with male nursery workers. You'd start much closer to home. Dad is more of a risk than nursery worker. Even though the risk is tiny. It's still bigger than a nursery worker. Your man is still the person most likely to sexually abuse your child. Get him.away from your kid(s).

But the obvious difference is that you know your partner/the father of your child and have the opportunity to see their behaviour over a period of years with and away from your child.

By contrast you have no clue who these nursery workers are or what they are like. You are placing your full trust in whatever vetting process the nursery has done (which obviously wouldn’t flag up anything if they’ve never been caught before) + fleeting interactions at drop off and pick up.

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:15

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 17:57

It obviously is but thats ok..lots of people are from.cultures where men do not display caring qualities and therefore it is foreign to them.

Oh are you back to enlighten us as to which cultures these caring safe men are from?

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:16

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GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:17

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:15

Oh are you back to enlighten us as to which cultures these caring safe men are from?

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Cultures where changing a babies nappy isnt seen as inappropriate for a man to do..

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:17

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Black covers quite a multitude of cultures though, are you able to pinpoint it or is it just all black men? Because I have some statistics on those in terms of marriage and divorce rates and sticking around to raise children?

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:18

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:17

Cultures where changing a babies nappy isnt seen as inappropriate for a man to do..

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
come on then answer the question

JaneySeemore · 08/04/2026 18:18

It obviously is but thats ok..lots of people are from.cultures where men do not display caring qualities and therefore it is foreign to them

"But that's ok" 😂
That's not my culture. Not my father, brothers and husband - all loving, caring men. Hands on dads but not other children.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:18

JumpinJellyfish · 08/04/2026 18:14

But the obvious difference is that you know your partner/the father of your child and have the opportunity to see their behaviour over a period of years with and away from your child.

By contrast you have no clue who these nursery workers are or what they are like. You are placing your full trust in whatever vetting process the nursery has done (which obviously wouldn’t flag up anything if they’ve never been caught before) + fleeting interactions at drop off and pick up.

Hopefully you didnt know your partner when you were a child and they were an adult who is sexually attracted to you.

You have no real idea what your partner does with or to children or what they want to do with children and they are the most likely to abuse your kids.

You knowing them means nothing except that they have better proximity to abuse your kids because of your familiarity with them.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:19

JaneySeemore · 08/04/2026 18:18

It obviously is but thats ok..lots of people are from.cultures where men do not display caring qualities and therefore it is foreign to them

"But that's ok" 😂
That's not my culture. Not my father, brothers and husband - all loving, caring men. Hands on dads but not other children.

Sure and that's why there are so many women who look just like you complaining that their men do fuck all.

CharlotteRumpling · 08/04/2026 18:20

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This is really entertaining 🙂
A bit like the MN threads on " how often do you shower?/ change your towels/ wash your hair?

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:20

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:19

Sure and that's why there are so many women who look just like you complaining that their men do fuck all.

You really are on a sticky wicket there
Tread carefully or you’ll get banned
Again

paulhollywoodshairgel · 08/04/2026 18:21

I really don’t get this. A man who wants to look after children is just a man who wants to look after children in my eyes. Assuming that they have evil intentions is really closed minded. Would you think that of a woman urologist?? A male paediatrician?? It makes no sense to me.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:22

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:17

Black covers quite a multitude of cultures though, are you able to pinpoint it or is it just all black men? Because I have some statistics on those in terms of marriage and divorce rates and sticking around to raise children?

All Black men. I didnt say we have the longest relationships, I said that our men cook and clean because their mothers made sure they can before they were adults.

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:22

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:22

All Black men. I didnt say we have the longest relationships, I said that our men cook and clean because their mothers made sure they can before they were adults.

It’s amazing that you feel qualified to speak on behalf of all of them

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:23

paulhollywoodshairgel · 08/04/2026 18:21

I really don’t get this. A man who wants to look after children is just a man who wants to look after children in my eyes. Assuming that they have evil intentions is really closed minded. Would you think that of a woman urologist?? A male paediatrician?? It makes no sense to me.

I think its women who have only ever been sexually exploited by the men around them from a very young age. They dont know men who didn't try and get sexual gratification from them so they assume all men with opportunity will do the same.

JumpinJellyfish · 08/04/2026 18:23

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:18

Hopefully you didnt know your partner when you were a child and they were an adult who is sexually attracted to you.

You have no real idea what your partner does with or to children or what they want to do with children and they are the most likely to abuse your kids.

You knowing them means nothing except that they have better proximity to abuse your kids because of your familiarity with them.

This is rubbish. I have reasons to trust my partner but no reason to trust a rando man just because they’re employed by a nursery.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:24

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:22

It’s amazing that you feel qualified to speak on behalf of all of them

This is something we discuss in the Black Community a lot. Why are white men so incompetent as husbands and fathers? Why do their wives hate them so much? Why are the wives so downtrodden and exhausted?

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:25

JumpinJellyfish · 08/04/2026 18:23

This is rubbish. I have reasons to trust my partner but no reason to trust a rando man just because they’re employed by a nursery.

What reasons do you know that your partner isnt sexually attracted to children? Has he had opportunity to act on that? Maybe when he has kids, it will provide that opportunity he has never had before.

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:25

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:24

This is something we discuss in the Black Community a lot. Why are white men so incompetent as husbands and fathers? Why do their wives hate them so much? Why are the wives so downtrodden and exhausted?

The community … that’s quite a broad brush
And just to be clear you’re stereotyping white men ? Imagine.

That used to be called racism

Famholiday2026 · 08/04/2026 18:26

Men carry a risk to children that is orders of magnitude greater than women. Bloody google is free. We all know nurseries are underfunded and are forever understaffed. It’s the perfect opportunity for a predator. They can have male primary teachers when the children don’t need intimate care and are more verbal. Until we have proper and rock solid safeguarding I wouldn’t leave an under 5 in the care of a male nursery worker.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:26

PartQualifiedAcca · 08/04/2026 18:25

The community … that’s quite a broad brush
And just to be clear you’re stereotyping white men ? Imagine.

That used to be called racism

Its just what we hear their wives say about them

stichguru · 08/04/2026 18:28

Beautifulsiro56 · 06/04/2026 22:56

Males working in my cbildrends nursery- makes me feel so uncomfortable
Why would a male want to work in a nursery? Most nursery abuse cases are men.
Men shouldn't be allowed to work in nurseries? AIBU

Men should be allowed to work in nurseries. Men can be good role models for children, and especially for boy children, not all of whom have male role models at home. Men might want to work in nurseries because they enjoy working with children and are good at it.

There are lots of situations where one group of people are more at risk of something, but if it happens it is still an accident that means that person was not properly assessed or supervised and it is that situation that posed/poses risk.

  • children aged 1-4 have the global annual highest rate of fatal or life affecting drowning accidents. 1-4 year olds should only be allowed in water for showers to wash them? Or people with 1-4 year olds should be taught to carefully supervise their kids in any water?
  • Young males are most often involved in road accidents - males should therefore not be allowed to learn to drive until they are 30?
It gets silly and very restricted for whole groups of people who could either/benefit or others could benefit from them being in certain places/roles just because some do it without proper precautions being taken.
JumpinJellyfish · 08/04/2026 18:30

GlovedhandsCecilia · 08/04/2026 18:25

What reasons do you know that your partner isnt sexually attracted to children? Has he had opportunity to act on that? Maybe when he has kids, it will provide that opportunity he has never had before.

Sorry but this is absolutely batshit. Are you saying you would be more likely to believe that your partner is a paedophile than a stranger? If that is the case, do you allow your partner access to his own children?

Whilst I appreciate some men do abuse their own children my point is that I trust the men in my children’s life for good reason but I have no reason to trust people employed by a nursery because I know nothing about them.

If you truly believe that a DBS check is more reliable than a 20 year relationship do crack on.