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Aibu to hate Michael Gove?

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merrycola · 06/04/2026 21:18

AIBU to hate Michael Gove for single-handedly creating the “overdiagnosis” crisis he’s now nowhere near enough to answer for?
Because let’s connect the dots.
He made the curriculum harder, narrower, and more rigid. Ofsted built an inspection framework around it that treats children like data points. And now — years later — we’ve got CAMHS referrals through the roof, school avoidance at record levels, exclusion rates climbing, teachers quitting in droves, and a growing media narrative that too many children are being diagnosed and parents are being pushy.
But nobody seems to want to say the obvious thing: we didn’t suddenly produce a generation of broken children. We built a system that broke the environment around them and then pathologised the ones who couldn’t cope.
The strategies that actually help — clear instructions, sensory breaks, mutual respect, not shouting — aren’t special needs strategies. They’re just good teaching. But there’s no time for good teaching when you’re trying to force a curriculum designed by a man who apparently thinks childhood is an inefficiency to be optimised.

And here’s what really gets me. Every education secretary since could have undone it. But none of them have, because reversing course would mean admitting the whole framework was wrong and that it’s been harming children for over a decade. So instead we get headlines about overdiagnosis and parents wanting labels for benefits, while the man who lit the match is off doing whatever Michael Gove does now.

We didn’t get an overdiagnosis crisis. We got a system that can’t admit it failed, so it diagnosed the kids instead.

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sweetpeaorchestra · 06/04/2026 22:33

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:24

As a retired y teacher I can confidently state that most students can, in fact, enjoy Shakespeare if it can be taught in an engaging way. Give ensured that wasn’t possible by overloading the curriculum. I’m not a maths teacher, but I suspect something similar is true there too. Education should be aspirational and expose us to things we didn’t know we could understand or enjoy. It’s the measuring every little detail and cramming so many things in that fucked it up.

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I’m sure your assessment is correct and I don’t think I was right to use Shakespeare as an example. I suppose it feels (from a parent POV) as though it’s literacy and maths in the most joyless presentation possible, and little else.

Miranda65 · 06/04/2026 22:33

It's unreasonable to "hate" someone you've never met (though you may hate what they do or say).
Michael Gove is now in the House of Lords, and also editor of The Spectator. He strikes me (though I don't know him either), as one of the more interesting politicians of recent years.
Is it him who is responsible for the dumbing down of secondary education and also the grade inflation in university degrees? Or is that simply due to poor policies from across a number of different Governments?

GentleIron · 06/04/2026 22:36

Michael Gove epitomises clever gone awry. He really did break primary education in England. I have taught -at the coalface, in the classroom- for 30 years and am so saddened by what one man was able to bring about, to the detriment of so many. In all my years in the profession since the Gove reforms, I've never known anyone, teaching colleagues or school leaders, to glance around their school and sigh "Well, thank goodness that Gove came along and sorted us all out!"
The weaponisation of SEND and subsequent demonisation of parents breaks my heart. There is no coincidence that referrals for EHCP needs assessments and requests for referrals for ASD / ADHD / SPLD / EP assessments and CAMHS are at an all-time high when the primary curriculum is developmentally out of range for so many pupils. Children and young people really suffer in English primary schools, with serious long-term consequences for health and future prospects, despite the amazing work of colleagues who pour themselves into propping up a system which cynically exploits their good will.

Ineedanaptoo · 06/04/2026 22:38

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 You are 💯 right. The damage he has done to generations of children is shocking.

Foxyloxy89 · 06/04/2026 22:39

Yep. Teacher of almost 20 years here and SENDco who is burning out quickly. Bring back the fun, the flexibility and scrap this ridiculous curriculum and lots of problems will simply disappear. My children actively hate school and that for me is heartbreaking.

Strangerthanfictions · 06/04/2026 22:40

Placeoftides · 06/04/2026 21:29

I only work in a school kitchen but I have done for decades. You are completely right OP

You probably see the effects more than anyone

bozzabollix · 06/04/2026 22:40

My son has just left school halfway through sixth form. Psychologically could not deal with it anymore. Gove broke all but the resilient and/or academic kids who have suffered his curriculum. My son is coming back to life since leaving, it’s crazy how bad an effect school has had on him.

He’s a total arsehole.

Hoppity80 · 06/04/2026 22:41

Well i have to say I’m really impressed with the education my DC are receiving in a state school and I think a lot of it is down to him.

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:42

Pearlstillsinging · 06/04/2026 22:33

Oh yes. I taught "Hubble, bubble toil and trouble" to Y2 one Halloween sometime in early 2000s. They loved it!

My post should say retired English teacher. Somehow my phone edited that out…
If you get it on its feet and explore it that way kids usually end up loving it.

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:43

sweetpeaorchestra · 06/04/2026 22:33

I’m sure your assessment is correct and I don’t think I was right to use Shakespeare as an example. I suppose it feels (from a parent POV) as though it’s literacy and maths in the most joyless presentation possible, and little else.

Most joyless presentation possible is indeed what the curriculum forces you into. You aren’t wrong.

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:47

Hoppity80 · 06/04/2026 22:41

Well i have to say I’m really impressed with the education my DC are receiving in a state school and I think a lot of it is down to him.

Very glad to hear they are having an excellent education - but it’s in spite of Gove not because of him. Look at all the teachers on here saying what it’s done.

Happyjoe · 06/04/2026 22:52

Gove is a (cocaine sniffing) snivelling, talentless man who should never have been anywhere near anything.

MrsKateColumbo · 06/04/2026 22:57

I agree, and it's pushing teachers out of the profession because they are under so much pressure. Primary school should be the foundation and learning how to learn, but it's so fast paced now.

I took an A Level in a subject with only 2 people in it (pre Gove). We managed to get through the material quite early in y13 because the class was so small and I remember our teacher just teaching us random things about the world. This was a PE/music type subject but she taught us about political systems of various countries, history of different conflicts and all sorts of wonderful lessons that I loved. That would never happen now.

SunnyspellsandScatteredshowers · 06/04/2026 23:03

Couldn't agree more. Absolutely hate him and everything he did. His double standards were beyond belief, calling TAs a "mums army" but asked what qualified him to be Education Secretary - "well, I'm a parent" 🤦😡

Thesunisrising · 06/04/2026 23:09

Completely agree. Had hoped with a change in government there would be a review and reform of the system but it doesn't seem like Labour want to do much abut the curriculum.

It feels like we need more campaigning on this. Just had a Google and found there are some like this one from Youngminds abour getting rid of SATs and reforming GCSEs: https://www.youngminds.org.uk/support-us/join-the-movement/missing-the-mark/

Missing the Mark | Assessment Reform Campaign

Exams are testing our limits, it's time we revise the system. Find out more about our campaign for assessment reform.

https://www.youngminds.org.uk/support-us/join-the-movement/missing-the-mark

HollyGolightly4 · 06/04/2026 23:12

Completely agree. My career is before Gove and after Gove- hugely detrimental to children and their learning, but no-one in politics actually cares about that.

Superhansrantowindsor · 06/04/2026 23:15

You are not wrong op.
The worst education secretary ever but like you say- nobody has undone the mess.

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · 06/04/2026 23:16

Cloop · 06/04/2026 21:23

Yep. Some of what I used to teach in Y5 is now Y3. The curriculum is fully accessible to about the top 20% of children only. Occasionally we do an easier lesson in maths (e.g. co-ordinates in Y4 is pretty achievable for most) and the improved behaviour, attitudes and happiness of the entire class is really evident. I fear there's no way back now though. The curriculum can't be seen to be 'dumbed down'.

My eldest in is Y3 and the teacher told me at parents' evening that the Y3 curriculum is very full and she has a huge amount of information to cram into the children, but her job is to do it in such a way that the children don't feel the pressure.

This teacher is a bit of an entertainer who sings, skips around the classroom and makes the kids laugh. But recently, she was off sick with stress and I'm not surprised. It's a nice school, but one of DD's previous teachers has reduced her hours and another left her job mid-year and only does supply teaching now.

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · 06/04/2026 23:18

In the interests of fairness, I believe Michael Gove did at least one good thing - he played a key role in the increasing of the maximum prison sentence for animal cruelty from six months to five years.

But education-wise, hmmm...

Superhansrantowindsor · 06/04/2026 23:24

CaragianettE · 06/04/2026 22:16

I voted YABU because you clearly wrote your post using AI. PLEASE cut that shit out. I absolutely loathe how it writes. Horrible ‘strike a pose’ dramatic sentences, and it makes every single issue sound the same.

Can you tell me the clues that made you spot this as AI. I thought I could spot AI but obviously I can’t. I need to get better at spotting it because kids keep using it for homework.

Buffalogruffalo · 06/04/2026 23:25

But the over diagnosis issue has happened across the world. How did Gove impact American over diagnosis? And Australian over diagnosis?

Thesunisrising · 06/04/2026 23:28

I've just seen there was in fact a review of the curriculum with a report published at the end of last year. I'm not surprised it passed me by as I can't see any news stories on it in the mainstream press. I've only had a quick scan of the executive summary but it doesn't look like it's recommending any fundamental changes.

I don't know what the answer is. Both my DC have had a very rough time in school and it's so sad. Forget a love of learning - for them school has been something to survive, and a huge endurance test for us all.

DavesGirl90 · 06/04/2026 23:32

There’s a certain kind of irony in someone complaining about today’s curriculum while themselves needing AI to write a Mumsnet post…! Seems like the curriculum can’t have been all that great when you were at school, either 😜

Having said that, I completely agree Gove is a dick.

CaragianettE · 06/04/2026 23:37

Superhansrantowindsor · 06/04/2026 23:24

Can you tell me the clues that made you spot this as AI. I thought I could spot AI but obviously I can’t. I need to get better at spotting it because kids keep using it for homework.

I think I’m still trying to put my finger on what defines ‘AI style’, but I can tell it when I see it. As I said I think it’s partly the insufferable dramatic all-knowing tone, and the frequent use of short sentences to supposedly create drama: ‘And here’s the thing. We’ve created a cheese crisis. Not just today. But tomorrow as well.’

There’s a lot of use of ‘we’, and a lot of broken up sentences that start ‘And’, ‘But’, or ‘Because’. And there’s always, always a very dramatic, all-knowing conclusion.

’But here’s the thing. We can still have cheese. Not through hard work - but through fun, pleasure, and play.

Because knowing you can have cheese every day? That’s priceless’.

Honestly if you want to get good at spotting it, I recommend wasting a lot of time scrolling instagram - the captions of so many accounts are riddled with it. Absolutely sets my teeth on edge.

Mammyloveswine · 06/04/2026 23:38

When I did my teacher training schools were trialing the new curriculum proposed in the rose review.. then the tories got in 🤬 I taught for 15 years but doubt I’ll go back

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