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To think the British people who went out to Dubai to profit from slave labour by "influencing" (i.e. manipulating) made their beds and now should lie cosily in them

149 replies

Mightneedencouraged · 01/04/2026 22:04

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/01/uk-citizens-detained-uae-frustrated-government-intervention-iran-conflict

The brass neck of these family members complaining when the boot is finally on the other authoritarian foot

Families condemn UK ‘impotence’ over UAE ‘social media misuse’ detentions

Ministers accused of being too fearful of offending Emirates to help Britons detained for sharing images of war

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/01/uk-citizens-detained-uae-frustrated-government-intervention-iran-conflict

OP posts:
Pushmepullu · 02/04/2026 08:27

Thing is they were told not to do something by the government and did it anyway. If you live in a country you follow their laws and rules. Surely people are not that ignorant that they think other countries allow you to get away with acts just because in the UK that law doesn’t exist? When you do end up in prison then tough.

MoFadaCromulent · 02/04/2026 08:28

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 08:02

The low income workers thing is an issue they are working to improve.

The homosexuality thing is because it's their religion. When you're a guest in someone's home you follow their rules.

exactly, so they should be championing the rights of the government to imprison white Europeans who disobeyed orders regarding social media in the same way they defend the regimes right to govern the country the way it does with regards to low income migrant workers who have their passports held by their employers or to impose fundamental religious laws against homosexuality.

they're a guest in their home, they didn't follow the rules.
it would be a bit rich of any expats to turn a blind eye to the brutality of the country they're in or to lecture others on not understanding the cultural differences but then turn around and complain when they are at odds with the culture.

you can't say "when in Rome, unless the Romans are doing something i don't like"

BurntBroccoli · 02/04/2026 08:31

muggart · 01/04/2026 22:30

Well if they were high earners in the UK they have quite likely paid more in taxes than most people on mumsnet, even if they left the country at some point. most people in the uk are net recipients in tax after all.

my point anyway is that youre probably pretending that this is about slave labour when i would bet it’s more that you are annoyed that society/ public services are crumbling and some people can opt out.

If my house caught fire and was damaged but I had cancelled my expensive insurance policy because I thought it cost too much, can I claim from said insurance company anyway?

Charlize43 · 02/04/2026 08:38

They should be made to pay for their return as they don't pay tax to the British government.

Dollymylove · 02/04/2026 08:44

The virtue signalling on this thread is unreal. I hope none of you buy cheap imported goods from countries that employ migrants slaves. I sincerely hope you are all shearing your own sheep, spinning the wool and knitting your own bloomers.
And I hope you have accommodated in your home some 38 year old bloke from Albania who is pretending to be a 15 year old child escaping a war zone.
And if not, why not?

CruCru · 02/04/2026 08:46

Pushmepullu · 02/04/2026 08:27

Thing is they were told not to do something by the government and did it anyway. If you live in a country you follow their laws and rules. Surely people are not that ignorant that they think other countries allow you to get away with acts just because in the UK that law doesn’t exist? When you do end up in prison then tough.

I was going to say something a bit like this. I wonder if it needs to be communicated more widely that if people go abroad (whether on holiday or to live), they need to obey the rules of that country, even if they seem weird or wouldn’t apply here. It isn’t just about Dubai - in Thailand, one must not criticise the Royal Family, in Singapore, one must not chew gum, in North Korea - just don’t go to North Korea.

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 08:48

Charlize43 · 02/04/2026 08:38

They should be made to pay for their return as they don't pay tax to the British government.

Did you ignore me when I said they have to pay for the return flight home??

Why is everyone just ignoring it?

MagneticSquirrel · 02/04/2026 08:49

People need to make themselves aware of the laws and customs of any country before they visit, and be aware of penalties and justice systems for non compliance, even if it’s “only” package holiday and obviously essential if moving abroad.

If you don’t like the laws around social media or anything else then don’t visit or live there. Don’t break the law then shriek for consular assistance!.

Charlize43 · 02/04/2026 08:53

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 08:48

Did you ignore me when I said they have to pay for the return flight home??

Why is everyone just ignoring it?

I did. I'm sorry. Your user name made me hungry so I skipped passed... Please don't take it so personally.

Hallamule · 02/04/2026 08:54

muggart · 01/04/2026 22:19

Good point. In fact, Britain also benefits for its historical role in the slave trade.

Methinks this is more annoyance and jealousy that some people are opting not to pay tax into britain’s failing public services.

So if someone isn't paying tax to the UK and doesnt live in the UK why are they looking to the UK to rescue them? They can go whistle.

ArtAngel · 02/04/2026 08:55

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 00:08

Again vast majority of expats have had to pay for the repatriation flights.

The individuals in the article linked by the OP are asking for diplomatic intervention to get them out of prison.

Asking for help from the UK gvt to intervene after they distributed SM posts that the UAE had very clearly told them not too.

And when posting on SM was literally the job they had gone there in order to make money (and not pay UK taxes because they don’t live here)

I have no doubt they would gladly pay their charter flights home - but they are criticising UK services (that they don’t pay for) for not intervening enough when they have broken the rules of the regime they chose to work for

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 08:55

Hallamule · 02/04/2026 08:54

So if someone isn't paying tax to the UK and doesnt live in the UK why are they looking to the UK to rescue them? They can go whistle.

They had to pay for their repatriation flight.

TheNorns · 02/04/2026 08:56

Dollymylove · 02/04/2026 08:44

The virtue signalling on this thread is unreal. I hope none of you buy cheap imported goods from countries that employ migrants slaves. I sincerely hope you are all shearing your own sheep, spinning the wool and knitting your own bloomers.
And I hope you have accommodated in your home some 38 year old bloke from Albania who is pretending to be a 15 year old child escaping a war zone.
And if not, why not?

But these ‘influencers’ haven’t been imprisoned because of exploitative labour laws. They’ve been imprisoned because they chose to produce propaganda for an oppressive regime whose censorship laws they chose to think didn’t apply to them when they deviated from the ‘safe luxury’ message.

I fully feel the British embassy should do what it can, which will be limited by the fact that these people broke the law. And from the Dubai ‘government’’s POV, this is way more serious than a dopey tourist or two contravening the decency laws. This cuts right to the heart of the Dubai illusion that presents the emirate, not as a Middle Eastern dictatorship in a particularly geopolitically sensitive area across a small stretch of water from Iran but as an apolitical, Western-friendly bubble.

Ihatetomatoes · 02/04/2026 08:56

Dollymylove · 01/04/2026 23:21

What are British people actually getting for their tax?
The country is going to pot. Hospitals cant cope with the demands, wait weeks for a GP appointment, gangs of feral kids roaming around, stabbings, assaults, burglaries, massive drugs problem, useless police force, roads full of potholes, 1000s of people desperate for a home, waiting lists are years long, thousands of undocumented men illegally entering the country and being put in hotels, free bed and board, free medical and dental care ahead of the British tax payer. No wonder people want to move to Dubai. As long as you obey their rules you will have no problems. I would be out there like a shot if I was younger

The problem is they didn't obey their rules and so have been arrested. Sharing images of damage from drones or missiles is against their rules. The people who were arrested for this, clearly didn't follow the rules.

Charlize43 · 02/04/2026 08:57

Should 'Influencers' be in prison for misuse of social media?

Yes, I agree. Is there a link for a petition to sign?

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 08:57

Fair point made.

These people should have simply followed the rules on social media posts.

I think I've confused myself with people asking for consular service for breaking UAE law and people needing to be flown home from the war.

Hallamule · 02/04/2026 08:58

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 08:55

They had to pay for their repatriation flight.

I thought they were asking for diplomatic intervention to somehow bypass the fact they've broken the law. Its not just about flights.

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 08:59

Hallamule · 02/04/2026 08:58

I thought they were asking for diplomatic intervention to somehow bypass the fact they've broken the law. Its not just about flights.

Yup I was wrong

Ihatetomatoes · 02/04/2026 09:00

Hallamule · 02/04/2026 08:58

I thought they were asking for diplomatic intervention to somehow bypass the fact they've broken the law. Its not just about flights.

It isn't about flights, people are misinterpreting. Its about them being arrested for breaking the law in Dubai. They think the British consulate should do more to help them. However, if they were arrested for breaking the law then then little that the UK can do.

TheVeloursImgonnaChangeNsoul · 02/04/2026 09:02

ToasterBonanza · 01/04/2026 22:58

What about all the UK citizens who don't work or work very little or in menial jobs who live off benefits? What are they contributing?

Someone has to do the menial jobs.
Bet you was glad of the little people during COVID when it became obvious they were very much needed.

Hallamule · 02/04/2026 09:06

And if people who work menial jobs still require benefits to get by, well that wouldn't happen if the rest of ensured that they were paid properly for their labour.

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 09:07

TheVeloursImgonnaChangeNsoul · 02/04/2026 09:02

Someone has to do the menial jobs.
Bet you was glad of the little people during COVID when it became obvious they were very much needed.

We were working as well (but online). All jobs are essential to someone's family. Working at Tesco for my entire life is not something I aspire towards or hope for my kids.

GreyfriarsJobbies · 02/04/2026 09:07

From reading the first page of comments I see plenty of people are determined to miss the point and trot out the usual 'yoUr JUst jELLus' stuff. This story was specifically about people who have moved to Dubai and the like specifically because they have a very different set of laws and structure of society from the UK. Being social media types they have doubtless not been backward in coming forward about how clever they are for having done so. But now that different set of laws has bitten them on the arse they expect UK rules to apply and for the UK government to move heaven and Earth to dig them out of the rather ugly hole they find themselves in. Well, I'm not suggesting the UK government should do nothing, but they should definitely focus on the domestic populations problems first.

Hallamule · 02/04/2026 09:07

All the more reasonable for you to be grateful that others will do it then.

Edited to add: that was to @ToasterBonanza

CatJump · 02/04/2026 09:07

Bilger · 01/04/2026 22:22

I think it’s fundamentally that there’s a perceived air of smugness around people who move to Dubai that SOME people don’t like.

If these were British citizens working overseas in a less glamorous location, far fewer people would question the government’s involvement.

I think its more the tax haven aspect than the glamour.
I doubt people Liechtenstein would get much sympathy either.
Actively avoiding tax whilst then expecting government support when it goes wrong isnt a popular move.

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