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To think the British people who went out to Dubai to profit from slave labour by "influencing" (i.e. manipulating) made their beds and now should lie cosily in them

149 replies

Mightneedencouraged · 01/04/2026 22:04

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/01/uk-citizens-detained-uae-frustrated-government-intervention-iran-conflict

The brass neck of these family members complaining when the boot is finally on the other authoritarian foot

Families condemn UK ‘impotence’ over UAE ‘social media misuse’ detentions

Ministers accused of being too fearful of offending Emirates to help Britons detained for sharing images of war

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/01/uk-citizens-detained-uae-frustrated-government-intervention-iran-conflict

OP posts:
ArtAngel · 02/04/2026 00:07

I think they have a cheek to enjoy Non Dom status , pay no tax to the UK , but expect the UK taxpayer-funded services to help them out.

I have sympathy for them getting stuck or falling foul of the hand that feeds them, but if you take yourself out of a system don’t expect that system to rescue you 🤷🏻‍♀️

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 00:08

Changingplace · 01/04/2026 23:53

If they’ve paid no taxes and think the UK is so awful why should the government spend time & effort to help? Others are in much greater need.

And nope, none of those things have ever happened to me in the UK, and the chance of sexual assault from a stranger is actually very low - that’s why these incidents get so much press coverage, because they are out of the ordinary.

Because they are being bombed? Anyway my family there (who are are Indian nationals) haven't fled. They are still living their lives as normally as they can and still having fun.

I'm glad you haven't been SAed. But many women in the UK have or have faced situations where they feared it. Haven't almost all UK women unfortunately been SHed at least once in life.

Even if the UAE under reports by 10-20x (conservative guess matching or exceeding UK levels), the actual incidence of random stranger attacks is still drastically lower.

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 00:08

ArtAngel · 02/04/2026 00:07

I think they have a cheek to enjoy Non Dom status , pay no tax to the UK , but expect the UK taxpayer-funded services to help them out.

I have sympathy for them getting stuck or falling foul of the hand that feeds them, but if you take yourself out of a system don’t expect that system to rescue you 🤷🏻‍♀️

Again vast majority of expats have had to pay for the repatriation flights.

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 00:08

ToasterBonanza · 01/04/2026 23:36

Official guidance says British nationals can be required to pay a fee for charter flights or sign an “Undertaking to Repay” if the government provides transport or travel documents.

Is everyone just ignoring this?

TeenagersAngst · 02/04/2026 00:10

Changingplace · 01/04/2026 23:55

By purposefully going to a country where you don’t pay tax, people don’t go there by mistake.

Edited

I never said they went by mistake. That’s not the same thing as purposely avoiding tax. Is it only Dubai you feel this way about or any country that people choose to emigrate to?

BerryTwister · 02/04/2026 00:15

If you go to another country, you have to follow their rules, whether you agree with them or not. It’s as simple as that.

These people must have known that filming and broadcasting would have consequences. Or maybe they’re so blinded by their influencer status, that they forget they’re just normal people. They’re not immune to punishment if they break the rules.

I feel sorry for their relatives, but the people who’ve been detained really should have known better.

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 00:15

ArtAngel · 02/04/2026 00:07

I think they have a cheek to enjoy Non Dom status , pay no tax to the UK , but expect the UK taxpayer-funded services to help them out.

I have sympathy for them getting stuck or falling foul of the hand that feeds them, but if you take yourself out of a system don’t expect that system to rescue you 🤷🏻‍♀️

Non dom status isn't a thing. They aren't UK tax residents. They don't live here....

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 00:16

BerryTwister · 02/04/2026 00:15

If you go to another country, you have to follow their rules, whether you agree with them or not. It’s as simple as that.

These people must have known that filming and broadcasting would have consequences. Or maybe they’re so blinded by their influencer status, that they forget they’re just normal people. They’re not immune to punishment if they break the rules.

I feel sorry for their relatives, but the people who’ve been detained really should have known better.

This I agree with wholeheartedly.

5to5 · 02/04/2026 00:24

Seeing threads on here not long ago asking does the house keeper also nanny the kids or should we employ a separate person. And the replies being, you can get the house keeper to look after the children as well. They were definitely taking advantage of the cheap labour of poor women.

Redpaisley · 02/04/2026 00:40

TheNorns · 01/04/2026 23:14

They have simply failed to notice the censorship rules because in general they’ve been trotting out the government line of ‘Dubai = safe luxury’. Now they’ve gone off message, and are dealing with the consequences.

I don’t live in Dubai and I know about this rule for some time, how can these 35 people had no clue about it when they are in the country?

It’s pointless to debate about the objective behind the new law versus old. If you want to live there, accept it. If you don’t agree with it, go to another place.

iamnotalemon · 02/04/2026 06:47

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 00:08

Again vast majority of expats have had to pay for the repatriation flights.

Yep but people like peddling their own narratives that the flights were free.

Changingplace · 02/04/2026 06:47

Redpaisley · 02/04/2026 00:40

I don’t live in Dubai and I know about this rule for some time, how can these 35 people had no clue about it when they are in the country?

It’s pointless to debate about the objective behind the new law versus old. If you want to live there, accept it. If you don’t agree with it, go to another place.

Agreed, I didn’t really take any notice of these kind of influencers until all this and only recently learned that Dubai influencers have to get a permit to operate and follow a code of conduct for the content they post.

No wonder they’re all obsessed with how ‘safe’ it is, they’re following government briefing lines.

There was an episode of ‘When it hits the fan’ about how many flooded their channels with the same government provided content after the first strikes, it’s worth a listen.

changedmynameagainforthis · 02/04/2026 07:03

YourSassyPanda · 01/04/2026 23:51

The thing about this argument…
If you were unlucky enough to be SAed while walking home alone at 2am edited to add “in Dubai” would you feel comfortable reporting it to the authorities? I think this might go some way to explaining certain crime statistics.

Edited

Excellent point. If you were assaulted in Dubai you wouldn’t be safe to report it.

minieggsrule · 02/04/2026 07:12

Changingplace · 01/04/2026 23:30

People who live in this country and don’t pay taxes generally haven’t chosen to do that purely on the basis of being able to earn huge amounts of money and purposefully avoid it, it’s not a like for like comparison.

Around 35% of working age adults in the UK pay no income tax. The majority of those are not in fact earning huge amounts of money, obviously.
What people on here are moaning about is British people expecting services they haven’t paid for. But there are plenty of people who still live here who expect just that. We do not have a “pay as you go” system in this country and that is what you are advocating for. If you want to do that, perhaps it would be best to look at how much tax they paid, before they left?

MoFadaCromulent · 02/04/2026 07:13

Ihatetomatoes · 01/04/2026 23:02

The linked story is about breaching laws of UAE though. If they are caught breaching laws ie social media images about drone attacks etc then they get arrested, its not really the UK's problem to fix. Nothing to do with jealousy. Consular support is and should always be provided but if you break laws in resident country then take the punishment.

Edited

this, no problem with governments assisting in trying to repatriate citizens who have become stuck in a conflict zone, that's that they should do.

but if the OPs question is about people who moved to an authoritarian regime which is happy to abuse the rights of low income migrant workers and criminalise homosexuality because it financially suited them having no leg to stand on when the authoritarian regime punishes then for stepping out of line then I'd have to agree that I have fuck all sympathy for them while still condemning the regimes actions.

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 07:50

changedmynameagainforthis · 02/04/2026 07:03

Excellent point. If you were assaulted in Dubai you wouldn’t be safe to report it.

Why? They changed the criminalisation of sex outside of marriage years ago.

Adelle79360 · 02/04/2026 07:54

Mightneedencouraged · 01/04/2026 22:21

Is it jealousy if someone refuses to pay for services then demands those services for free?

Well yes it is. Because that’s not how it works and everybody knows that. Look at the public funds spent on Shamima Begum and the likes! If you’re British, you’re entitled to help from the British government, it’s literally as simple as that. We don’t tell poor people they can’t access housing and health services because they don’t pay in.

Everybodys · 02/04/2026 07:56

TheNorns · 01/04/2026 23:07

For heaven’s sake, Dubai is a black hole of censorship, surveillance and human rights abuses. The ‘influencers’ who move there on specific assisted visas are there as propagandists for a tribal dictatorship. Either they knowingly signed on for that and thought they could game the system, or they were too dopey to know what they were doing and are suffering for their own naïveté. Either way, they need to acknowledge the limits of what the British embassy can do.

Yes, OP is talking about one very specific group of residents in Dubai here. All very well talking about the consulate, but there may not be much they can actually do.

Villanellesproudmum · 02/04/2026 08:00

There is an awful lot of modern slavery in many sectors of the UK here as well. Unfortunately it’s everywhere.

ToasterBonanza · 02/04/2026 08:02

MoFadaCromulent · 02/04/2026 07:13

this, no problem with governments assisting in trying to repatriate citizens who have become stuck in a conflict zone, that's that they should do.

but if the OPs question is about people who moved to an authoritarian regime which is happy to abuse the rights of low income migrant workers and criminalise homosexuality because it financially suited them having no leg to stand on when the authoritarian regime punishes then for stepping out of line then I'd have to agree that I have fuck all sympathy for them while still condemning the regimes actions.

The low income workers thing is an issue they are working to improve.

The homosexuality thing is because it's their religion. When you're a guest in someone's home you follow their rules.

ForPlumReader · 02/04/2026 08:08

Nofeckingway · 01/04/2026 22:59

Can't have it both ways though or nor should you . Avoid taxes , partake in an economy that you know damn well is dismissive of basic human rights and misogynistic, but want bailing out by your birth country when it all goes tits up. Use some of your ill gotten wealth to help yourselves .

Absolutely this

Livpool · 02/04/2026 08:10

Friendlygingercat · 01/04/2026 22:56

I have a relative working as a lecturer in a university in UAE and of course she earns far more there than she could here. Academia is shedding jobs in this country. I support her decision to work there. Its a place I would have gone myself if I had been younger when I did my doctorate. She is single and childfree like me and is absolutely rinsed by our corrupt tax system to subsidise those who have children.. We are not a rich family and one of the few ways for a single income person to get on the housing ladder now is to work in the ME for a few years and come back with a wad of cash,

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These children you despise will be the ones looking after you in old age and pay taxes to look after you. Their company pension contributions will pay for your pensions…

TheWildZebra · 02/04/2026 08:12

Bilger · 01/04/2026 22:10

I understand why their relatives are worried but find it difficult to drum up much sympathy.

It’s another extension of the widespread belief that it’s the government’s responsibility to sort out everyone’s problems.

Anyway it sounds like they are actually doing something. What else to they suggest, sending in the SAS to “extract” them?

💯- government must sort out my problems when I’m in dire straights but no way am I helping out the government/collective by realising this costs money.

Stnam · 02/04/2026 08:18

The reason we can afford this superior attitude in the UK, where we pay minimum wage and treat workers well, is because we import cheap goods from abroad. Most of our small manufactured goods and clothes and come from China and they have the second highest number of enslaved people in the world (after India). We go along with it because it suits us financially. Just like the people in Dubai.

DefiantRabbit9 · 02/04/2026 08:22

I say let them rot unless they want to pay some of those taxes they skipped out on.

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