To say that there should be some adult only options?

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Pubs making the decision to ban children

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I feel like it's not really fair for a pub that's very restaurant-y, nice lunch menu etc to ban kids. But then a locals pub which doesn't really do food, fair enough.

Children have no business in a pub if it doesn't sell food, tbf

Mmm… pickled eggs ❤️

The pub that doesn't allow kids or dogs sounds fantastic to me. I've raised my kids (they come to the pub as adults with me), I want to go to a pub and be amongst adults. I just wouldn't choose a 'family orientated' pub to have sunday lunch in. Or to go gossip with my friends, or have a date with my husband. I don't think it unreasonable that some places are kept just for adults, much as soft play is just for kids.

And I can tell those who have never worked in hospitality who are suggesting the staff should be keeping the kids in check. These people are paid minimum wage. Have you ever tried working your job whilst childminding for free? Or suggesting to the parents that their oh so cute 3 year old should perhaps remain at the table instead of running behind the bar, tripping people up, wiping their snotty noses on the soft furnishing... (yes, the same applies to dogs). That is the parents job, not the bar staff.

There are ways, if you're skilled wait staff, if managing scenarios, but frankly, there are many times it's not worth it. Plus generally waiting staff are young, with no experience, it's unfair to expect them to manage a situation the adults in the room clearly can't.

No because I’m autistic and children’s loud high pitched voices actually cause me pain and sensory overload. I avoid them as much as possible but there isn’t much choice on a plane where you can’t escape.

Of course I could be a cunt about it and do it anyway - I’m sure every parent of small children loves it when people disapprove when the kid is crying.

Kids shouldn't be in pubs, full stop.

So people shouldn’t take their children for a meal in a pub?!

I'll never understand the whole thing of not being able to take your kid for an actual kid activity instead of to the pub so you can tip pink gin down your throat.

Pubs are adult environments by their nature. If there's a playground attached then fine, and they can stay in there.

Or… you can do both? I don’t spend my life utterly dedicated to my children, neglecting my own wants. Sometimes they do an activity solely suited to them, sometimes they have to do something less suited to them. It’s good for them.

Being in a pub isn't good for a child. Having a parent who can't forego alcohol isn't good for a child either.

Who said I was drinking alcohol?!

I absolutely can forgo alcohol, I’d be quite happy with a hot chocolate after a cold, wintry walk. However, there is also nothing wrong with a child seeing their parent have a glass of wine on a sunny afternoon in a pub garden.

Can you explain why being in a pub is bad for a child?

There are plenty of other restaurants.

If only they would ban dogs!

My favourite local bans kids. It is a proper ale pub. No food (apart from crisps, cheese & onion rolls, and pickled eggs). No wifi, no TVs.
No reason for any kid to be there at all.
Dogs are welcome though.

I remember on holidays as a child (1990s) we would go to pubs for dinner but we had to sit in a certain area or a 'family room'.

The pub or the fish and chip shops were the only options to eat.

I'm sure there's room for every kind of pub!

Children don’t belong in pubs unless it’s a family venue with a soft play (do those still exist?!). We were dragged to the pub every single weekend as kids and it was totally miserable. My mum never wanted to leave so we’d end up there till closing time sometimes, absolutely knackered and desperate to go home to bed. The room was always thick with smoke too, so bad you couldn’t even see the bar when you walked through the main doors. So dreadfully boring as well, this was before phones or iPads so I had to sit there bored shitless all fucking day.

I hate pubs so have never taken my children to one. It’s like a sort of trauma. I hate the stench of beer, it makes me feel ill.

It's up to the individual business, the're free to make whatever decision suits their business model. No skin off my nose either way.

However from the article "When Boyd took the leap and banned children, he says it was a “fucking revelation”." is a bit unpleasant and doesn't make me want to spend my money there. Happily there's a lovely (childfree) micropub near us who gets our custom instead.

We take our young kids to the pub regularly, but not any pubs. They need some space out of the way to play, and run around a bit (unfortunately we don't have the model kids sitting down with stickers and colouring...). We are lucky to have a couple of good pubs nearby with enough outdoor space, we don't go indoor anymore.

I think if pubs don't have the space, are indoor only for instance with narrow tables etc, they should definitely restrict children under a certain age.

That said, I have never really seen any kids being disruptive to the staff or customers in the pubs we go to (we prefer craft beers so don't really go to large or chain pubs).
It's much more likely to happen in the local chain pubs or any "child friendly" restaurants/cafes.

I live in the same area as the Alma but never go in there. It definitely did used to be family friendly as on weekends you couldn’t move for them!

We need to bring pubs that are split into two with the public bar for adults only and the lounge for families.

So?

Yes, there should be - for those that want it - adults only pubs. It may be a cretinously, commercially ruinously decision, but places like this should have the freedom to say no.

Turn it on its head - would you support a pub that ONLY admitted parents and kids, single drinkers and groups not allowed?

So far on this thread we've had people wanting adult only pubs, with or without dogs, with or without food. And wanting pubs who let in children, with or without dogs, with or without food. I think that's in the region of 8 (?) different types of pubs - dunno where all these different categories of pubs will get customers from.

So far on this thread we've had people wanting adult only pubs, with or without dogs, with or without food. And wanting pubs who let in children, with or without dogs, with or without food.

Leave the dogs at home. Please.

Whatever the pros and cons of children in pubs, nobody is going to be literally allergic to them and end up having to takes meds and/or go home because they can’t breath properly 😞

We went to a country pub with DD when she was a baby (weeks old). They said no children indoors but we could sit outside, it was very cold, and not the type of weather that anyone would choose to sit outdoors so we left. Weve never been back even though DD is 19 now, but obviously it works for them as they are still in business. I think their target market is dog walkers and horse riders.