To think Labour is not the party of the working people.

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I voted for Labour as I believed their election pledge of being a party for the working people but genuinely I can’t think of one thing, since they’ve been in power, that they’ve done to help me (a single working mother on around £42k a year)! I get zero help from UC, these mystical breakfast clubs don’t exist, people aren’t employing people due to their ridiculous NI implications, they aren’t building affordable housing, energy prices are insanely high and all they talk about is grants (which won’t affect me as I live in a flat)! Genuinely I can’t think of one thing that they’ve done to help working people in the middle. Why are Labour sticking their heads in the sand? Why do they refuse to help the squeezed working class? They are stopping this economy from thriving - as
nobody can afford to spend anything extra (treats, holidays, meals out etc etc)!

I mean, are you really that surprised? Labour have always been pretty shit - but even im surprised at HOW shit KS is (and hes still PM!!) - i dont think they have ever really been the party of the working class - they say it to get voters tho - tax the rich, give to the poor etc etc. Im a conservative voter - but even i was keen to see how this government would do - i must say, it lived up the disappointment and more 😂 - sad but true. Roll on the next election (if KS doesnt bottle it first!!)

All of them

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Early 2024 was good those policies were doing well to get growth

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You are obviously a Tory voter then

For me, it will be anyone but Reform.

I would even consider voting Tory tactically if it meant the possibility of keeping Reform out.

Well for a start, I don’t have a problem with support going to people on low wages. I think that the wage discrepancy between the highest and lowest earners is much too large, and people in work should be supported.

However, I have a massive problem with people who don’t work. They shouldn’t be getting anything close to what a minimum wage worker would take home. Food vouchers would be better. I don’t care how many kids they have. I’m sick of labour gaslighting us about child poverty. That is not the fault or responsibility of the taxpayer. It is 100% on the parents who decided to keep on having kids that they can’t afford.

All Labour do is disincentivise people to work, and bleed everyone else dry in the process.

Also, my other big bug bear with Labour is how they’re letting anti semitism flourish in the UK! It’s disgusting! Hate them for that!

They work to some extent - 16 hours
tylically in my experience and very conscious about going over that.

Well yeh I said I liked Kemi below, so well done on that one.

You’re in a minority still backing Labour though thankfully. Repeated emojis won’t even save you.

I find this so confusing

We have the most expensive energy prices in the world apart from Ireland. The government is at least partly to blame for that.

Same.

You are right, they are not. Party of uni educated humanities graduates.

You’re in a minority still backing Labour though thankfully.

@EasternStandard what has upset you so much? You don’t have to agree with my posts but why are you accusing me of things that aren’t true? Are you just looking for an argument as opposed to reasonable debate?

Me too.

I'm on benefits and it's one of the reasons why I would never vote for Reform.

Totally agree. I’ve lived in a high tax European country. The main difference was housing costs a minuscule amount compared to here so people had spare cash. Housing is such a massive issue here. And labour are doing little to help. Drastic policy changes are needed. Barely any building - residential or commercial property - is happening in London just now. It’s getting so much worse, not better.

Me too. The Labour Party is a party that protects after minorities from racism, my arse.

I haven’t used laughing emojis so no. I answered your questions on growth, youth unemployment, voting. You haven’t upset anything, it’s a pretty good thread tbf.

Finally people can see Labour are not doing well.

Repeated emojis won’t even save you

Another bizarre retort? What on earth do I need saving from?!

That’s pretty much what they have in most of europe. Far higher taxes on the lower earners than we dare have.

Though the Greens are even worse.

We pay a lot of tax as a household and I do agree with a safety net. It does frustrate me that public services are declining despite how much tax we pay. I would rather better public services and higher tax, I am just unsure how things are fixed now if they even can be.

So much worse. Why would any rational person vote Green. I’d say they’re actually more offensive to me than reform. Throwing women’s rights under a bus and rampant antisemitism. Utterly disgusting. I totally judge anyone who says they plan to vote Green as much as I judge Reform voters.

I agree with PP that we need to give those not working vouchers not cash. If you want cash you should have to work for it. We need to incentivise work more.

I agree. The damage to public services has been so prolonged and cut so deep that I can’t see how they’ll ever recover. Even if the majority of people thought like us and voted in a government with that ambition the reality is that the damage is irreparable. Depressing, isn’t it?

Yes, I truly believe housing is the root of so many of our issues.

I live in London and there is some going on near me, but it’s so slow, expensive etc. So much needs to change, is there the impetus for radical change though?

The green levy is about 8%. It funds sources of renewable energy, meaning we won’t have to import so much gas. The Tories have been in power for 32 out of the last 47 years. So, I don’t think we can reasonably lay all the blame for the lack of new power stations on Nick Clegg.