To think Labour is not the party of the working people.

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I voted for Labour as I believed their election pledge of being a party for the working people but genuinely I can’t think of one thing, since they’ve been in power, that they’ve done to help me (a single working mother on around £42k a year)! I get zero help from UC, these mystical breakfast clubs don’t exist, people aren’t employing people due to their ridiculous NI implications, they aren’t building affordable housing, energy prices are insanely high and all they talk about is grants (which won’t affect me as I live in a flat)! Genuinely I can’t think of one thing that they’ve done to help working people in the middle. Why are Labour sticking their heads in the sand? Why do they refuse to help the squeezed working class? They are stopping this economy from thriving - as
nobody can afford to spend anything extra (treats, holidays, meals out etc etc)!

Definitely. We've also been in decline since Brexit thanks to the Tories holding that disastrous referendum. They can never again claim to do what's best for the economy.

Yes, it is depressing. I would love the parties to get together & be honest but I cant see it happening

The tax burden is the highest in seven decades or so. It’s Labour’s extra taxes on SMEs hammering growth already. Why would people want that tax burden to be higher?

Even Labour uttered you can’t tax your way to growth, then did it anyway. Surely people are realising the mistake of those higher taxes.

Question. Why are the Tory years allowed to be forgotten and yet Labour have just over a year and everyone is calling for them to be gone?

I agree - she has really come into herself more confident
she runs rings around KS
I would vote for her

but like most politicians what they want to do and what they can do are vastly different

Would that also apply to those who would love to work but can't for various reasons such as disability?

I am not opposed to that idea but I would really like a huge programme of building social housing that we don’t sell off.

Labour have been in power for 20 months, delivered two budgets, and made things worse for most working people.
They made lots of promises on growth, integrity, no more tax rises, fully costed plans, smash the gangs, tread softly on our lives, end the chaos etc etc. All lies.

I am pretty glad we have Labour in right now tbh. I believe we are in a better position re this war of Trump's than if any other party was leading. Kemi or Farage would have had us jumping into this illegal war when Trump asked.

I will never forgive reform (well, ukip as they were) and the Tories for the destruction of Brexit. It has been the single worst UK political happening of my adult life.

I have been looking at what i would get if i lost my job after decades paying in -c£350
for just six months and child benefit. No help with energy bills. I would still be on the hook to pay back the child benefit I was paid when my income was higher in my tax return.
Were I single mum with 4 kids some of them born before 2017 - i would get c £400 each c 400 for myself. Potentially hundreds more if one or more of the kids has Adhd/autism. DLA is not
covered by the benefitscap and help with housing costs on a LA flat. In addition possibly my kids could potentially inherit the tenancy. That is compared to a loan on the interest of my mortgage if I have worked and scrimped to buy a house so I can hope to keep a roof over my head.
Plus if i work 16 hours i get to keep my benefits and child maintenance does not affect them either.
It really feels as though it is a two tier benefit system - insanely generous to some and piteous to others - mainly those who have paid in.
In Germany people who lose their jobs get a significant proportion of their salary for a time but the benefits are less lavish for life style claimants.

Who are these magic working people?
some construction blokes that want to vote Reform?

majority of people are working people - from Deliveroo driver to a high earner.

Interesting a lot of us on here quite like Kemi - I think in a sea of average, white make politicians she is great at holding her own! I think she really needs to get more working women on board. So we can iron out her shit policies

I will never forgive reform (well, ukip as they were) and the Tories for the destruction of Brexit. It has been the single worst UK political happening of my adult life.

what I find startling is how so many still want to refute the economic impact of Brexit & are so willingly to believe Nigel again.

@runningpram DLA isn’t means tested so you would get it if your dc were eligible without losing your job.

The Tories did tremendous damage. It says something when even Conservative voters such as myself and DH became very uncomfortable with their policies and votes differently for the first time ever. Don't even try to claim Labour have been worse.

She’s not going to get dedicated Labour / left voters. She’s doing well so far.

Is she though ? She is the leader of the opposition, so holding the Labour government to account is surely the whole point of her job ?
If she wants to win, she needs to win over the huge swathe of the country that is centre left and centre right.
To do this she needs decent, well costed policies that will mean that the majority of the country don't see a reduction in their standard of living, whilst also seeing improvements in local and national services.
She might also consider a little bit of re-nationalisation of some of the core utilities, given what an absolutely shocking job they have done as private companies, but that might be a step too far for a Conservative

You think 🤔

@BlackRowanactual working people! The majority Labour don’t seem to be helping!!

I think her policies are good. You can’t get everyone, obviously dedicated Labour or people moving to Greens won’t switch but she should stick with general policies.

She gets a lot of support on SM too.

You don't get £400 each for a child on UC.

@dinbinwe know the reform vote is an anti immigrant vote!

The last conservative government lost the election.
I do claim that Labour have been worse, much worse. I find it incredible that a conservative voter would attempt to defend this government.

Ok you get £339 each child born before
2017 and that’s assuming no adhd, asd etc.

Op I couldn't agree more and agree with most of your posts.
The utter insanity of shrinking growth and crippling business and they are so fucking arrogant !
I think the current labour party are the definition of madness .

@Coffeeandbooks88trust me!!!! I’m a working single mother who gets nothing but know lots of single mothers that get exactly the same salary as I do via benefits top ups etc. they woo minimum hours and don’t want to get pay rises or promotions as they lose their housing benefit and 85% childcare! We have the same monthly income, yet I have to pay 85% wraparound care, I actually live in the same block of flats as a single mum friend - s
her flat is social housing she gets majority of it paid. I on the other hand have to pay £1500 a month! Make it make sense!!!!