Aibu it's not the Government's role to bail people out?

[Katypp]

The UK is massively in debt and money is short.
AIBU to think that families should be expected to manage their own household budgets instead of constant calls for Government subsidies every time prices go up?
It's coming up to summer. Surely it's not unreasonable to expect householders to manage their own bills by cutting back their energy use?
Surely adults could be expected to manage their own grocery bills? Obviouly covid was exceptional, but oil prices rising have happened many times before with no expectation of bailouts.
My question is, given the state of the economy, do we need to wean ourselves off expecting the Government to step in every time prices go up and learn resilience again?

How very Margaret Thatcher of them

I didn’t think it was shit. But you did.

You enjoyed the lack of central heating and one bath a week did you? I can’t take that seriously.

I work with a lot of businesses. There are quite a few that raised their prices because everybody else was. They had no need to. When everything in your life is becoming more expensive, you don't single out one particular item. You are worried about it generally i.e. cost of living as opposed to specific things. There is a lot of greed masked under the blanket explanation of oh it's inflation not us.

Also, I grew up poor and my parents could only afford simple basic home cooked meals from scratch. That seems to be a luxury now but was the cheapest option at the time. I went to a restaurant for the first time when I was 16 with my Saturday job wages. Expectations are so different now.

The £200 will get spent elsewhere by many households, so will benefit the economy.

Yep.
Government should subsidise = tax payers should subsidise.

Prioritise national security, energy and food production.

Without these were screwed and if we have to make sacrifices so be it.

I don’t remember thinking “this is shit”. But then I’m not glib.

I bet you were cold though

Especially those taxpayers (and non-taxpayers) who are already on the bones of their arses and will otherwise have to choose between "heating and eating" or paying other essential bills.

No more than anyone else in our area.
And thankfully don’t have a sense of entitlement or “this is shit” attitude hanging over me.

Entitled to warm, the audacity 😳

Its crap as in its crap, not untrue

I am not laying into boomers.
But you HAD heating. By your own description you had a fire in the living room. That was less good than central heating, but it was heating. Most modern homes arent designed with a fire in the living room (and if they did wood is very expensive and coal isn't readily available) therefore people nowadays rely on central heating. A family "making do" without that isn't having to make do with "just" a fire. They are having no heat. Which you yourself admit you didn't experience. No heating absolutely kills people and makes them sick.
Medicine has advanced since the 1950s. However, the medicine that was available was free to you because those were the values of the timw. Do you think adults in the 50s were demanding children went without penicillin because they had to make do without it and therefore other people should too? Also, the advances in medical care from rhe 50s to now also benefit you. In fact the chances are they benefit you more because older people are more likely to need advanced treatments than children.
I am sure walking to school and not having holidays was character building. If I need to draw my own belt tighter, I can cut out holidays and I am sure my own child won't suffer from it. But people on low incomes who already don't have foreign holidays, don't own a car etc, will suffer because they won't have any non-necessities to cut. Therefore, if needed, we should help those families.
By your logic, your parents experienced the blitz and turned out fine so they should have ensured someone was dropping bombs on you. You had it a lot better than them. No shame and me saying that isn't meant to be an attack on your character. I'm sorry if you felt it was.

Is it entitled to want things to be better though? Or to be concerned about how the public purse is being spent? Or is that just wanting a system that's fair and accountable and works for everyone rather than a select few?

No amount of budgeting is going to magic money people don’t have. If the government don’t help, it’s going to cause bigger issues further down the line.

Subsequent governments have funded too many aspects of people’s lives, this has been funded by taxes which in turn have pushed more people into needing government help. It just seems to get crazier every year.

"AIBU to think that families should be expected to manage their own household budgets instead of constant calls for Government subsidies every time prices go up?"

Did you have the same opinion when the Ukraine Russia wars pushed the energy cap up towards £5kpa for the average household and the government stepped in?

It is difficult for households to manage budgets when external factors outside their control add hundreds to their bills.

There is also a strong possibility oil and gas prices will be increased for months rather then be over by autumn.

Is it just families who shouldn’t get handouts?

Wage stagnation & high housing costs are a huge part of the problem

I absolutely can't stand the idea that just because previous generations struggled and survived, subsequent generations should get it equally hard. I personally want better for my child and future grandchildren than what I grew up with. We should be pushing for things to be better, more affordable and more stable/ secure for future generations, not less

Yes & the narrative that people in the past didn’t eat out or holiday etc is bullshit.

Why do you say it is crap though ?

I recall universal agreement to this principle across the political spectrum in both the UK and wider EU ( … which we were part of at the time).

Absolutely they should bale us out, we are being screwed by them left right and centre.
I have never had one day of unemployment , what's coming into my house should be more than enough to live on, when I earned less in the past I had money spare each month, not now.
I perfectly understand budgeting and bills.
Your post is patronising and judgemental, perhaps you are priveledged enough not to feel the effects of this cost of living crisis , which it certainly is for many.

Your post does not take into account the blatant profiteering that is taking place. The government certainly should have a role intervene to cap prices where this is happening.

Those of us who live in rural communities know that the price of heating oil magically doubled a couple of days after the war started.

hmmm I’m never quite sure how I feel about this statement. If a business is in trouble aren’t it’s debtors required to repay? That means mortgages, bank loans, overdrafts and credit cards would have need to be repaid to the banks. Obviously it was much more complex than this because I don’t understand bearer bonds and the likes, but I’m glad I didn’t need to repay any of my debts.

It’s the governments job to protect its people, not sell them out constantly to foreign powers. Yet we’ve had globalism, mass immigration and the sell off of all public services - and that in fact is what has destroyed the economy.

The other point is that people ARE becoming ‘more resilient’ to the government with increased crime and drug gangs. Is that what you want? If I was to become more resilient to the government I would want land of my own and the ability to defend it. Shall I just take that? Shall we all?

No, what you want is everyone who has been deliberately impoverished and exploited to just shut up and leave you to enjoy your wealth, when there’s no way now to gain wealth by working. No, is the short answer.