Just get mounjaro!

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The more threads I read, the more and more posters seem to respond with “just get mounjaro” for posters wanting to lose as little as 10 lbs to get within a healthy BMI. More traditional methods of weight loss appear to be out of fashion and as though you’d be foolish to do it the perceived hard way when you can just inject a drug.
I was reading a thread where a poster had a BMI of just over 25 who was told to just get WLIs. What happened to them being for those who are obese?
Is this the way things are going now? Gained a few pounds over Christmas or on holiday? Just inject and don’t worry about it!
Anybody going against the grain of weight loss injections is often accused of being jealous. It’s a bit cult like on some threads as though WLI are the only valid way to lose weight and you’d be foolish to try any other way because “diets don’t work” and just adopting a healthier diet and lifestyle is laughable; a fool’s game and you’ll end up fat again. Well, yes, if you go back to your old habits, just like any method of weight loss.

Just a bit of a rant really on this sunny Tuesday!

Nobody is overseeing obesity either, but that's ok. Oversight only begins once diabetes, stokes and heart attacks occur.

The safety thing would be about the balance of risks and benefits. I’m not sure what the side effects are for weight loss drugs but to give another example, I had to take a medication for severe Raynaud’s to ensue that more blood got to my peripheries. It makes me feel dizzy and I wake up very early, both of which are very undesirable side effects. However, if I hadn’t taken it, I was at risk of finger and toe amputations. For that reason, I’ll live with these side effects.

I am obese and diabetic and have been on MJ for months - I lost about three pounds in that time

I think its because I'm going through a particularly tough time with constipation at the moment and I just don't want to see anyone else who only has a small amount of weight to lose go through that.

You could try and come with well founded arguments. Usually people like the OP cannot provide those.

Yanbu. I’m 3 stone overweight and really struggling to lose in my late 40s but there’s no way I’m going on WLI. It’s not a long term solution but most of all there’s no long term research on the side effects - I’m not risking it.

You are somewhere between reasonable and unreasonable. For people who are obese and can’t lose weight despite trying, these are life-changing.

I agree for those who have a relatively small amount of weight to lose, the old fashioned way of eating healthier is definitely going to be better for long term health.

Can you just get MJ though? I'd love to just drop half a stone (menopause flab) but I am a healthy BMI so there's no way any doctor would prescribe it for me. Can I just buy MJ somewhere?

And that's your choice. I made a different choice due to the impact that my extra 4 stone was having on me - a tangible, very real and not theoretical/ potentially in the future impact. I'm happy with my choice because I've had 3 great years of weight loss/ maintenance where my obesity related issues have gone away. Yes, in the future I may get issues related to the drugs on the future, I might not. But I would absolutely definitely have got more and more obesity related issues had I not done it. If I hadn't had those issues at the time I may not have made the decision to use them medication and carried on being obese without issue. It's all to do with how you view and weigh up the risks.

It does need to be prescribed, but some prescribers have reduced their criteria to those on the cusp of overweight. Whether it would be of benefit for you is something you'd need to look in to yourself.

Probably on the black market but it's not something I would do with only a small amount to lose. When estrogen levels decline many women develop android (central) fat. HRT has helped me with this so worth considering if you are symptomatic. Otherwise I would dial in your diet and do some resistance training. This will give you a better shape, make you stronger and help you burn more fat.

@Mangelwurzelfortea It's a prescription-only medication, so you cannot just buy it, no questions asked. If a website is doing that, it's going to be black market and dodgy.

It has to be prescribed, either by a prescribing pharmacist or a doctor, and there should be a consultation and some attempts to check that the information you have provided is accurate - so photos, videos, GP record check, etc. At a healthy BMI, the online pharmacies wouldn't prescribe. There are a few expensive private weight loss clinics that might, after an in-person consultation. That kind of prescribing is off-licence and the risks of that should be made clear to you.

Does it help adhd? I didnt know that. Intriguing..

I've heard it does help some people. Annoyingly it doesn't help mine, that would be a most welcome side effect!

Sure as hell didn’t help my ADHD.

Yes it’s my choice and like you say it’s to do with my “view and how I weigh up the risks”.

I haven’t criticised anyone else going on it, only said how I feel about going on it myself so I’m not sure what your point is.

For some people.

They are doing studies in to it. There's also some evidence it reduces the risk of Alzheimer's and some other diseases, again, studies are ongoing.

Due to the overall success of WLI there more research in to second generation ones going on and as more and more are created, more people will tolerate them better than the current ones.

These drugs change the body in ways no one understands completely yet. I'm not jealous of people using it to lose a few pounds, I just think they are facing risks I don't want to. Risks that are probably worth it for people who have had their life changed by the drugs. That was a long winded way of saying "meh. I can't be bothered".

I have ADHD and have found myself much more focused when using MJ, it's anecdotal though, I'm not sure I've seen any research to support it.

My point is to other posters and not to you, I'm actually supporting your argument that the risks and benefits are for individuals (and their medical team) to weigh up. So someone taking it and being "10lbs overweight" may have some signs of obesity related problems already, where as someone could be 5st overweight and benefit fine at the moment.

Most of us are more concerned about the immediate issues and not what may come in the future - whether that's medication side effects or obesity related health issues.

It can be a long term solution, just like any other medication for a chronic condition and it's been in circulation for 20+ years, so there's plenty of data out there.

I hate it. There has been very little research published about the long term implications, or short term side effects. There has been no published research about complications with the heart/liver/kidneys or thyroid. There is such a small amount of data on this.
yet my own family are pushing me into WLIs knowing I have a very complicated heart condition…

“My point is to other posters and not to you”

Then why reply to me? 🤷🏼‍♀️

@ToffeePennie Clearly your family should not be pushing you into any medical decision that you don't want to take. That is very wrong of them.

But, you are incorrect about the amount of research and the amount of data available. New medications are required to go through many stages before being approved for use in the UK, and these particular medications are being researched continually, globally, as the interest in them is so high.

The side effects are very well known and the list, with the chance of them occurring, is provided alongside being prescribed the medication.

There is a shit ton of data you need to google and it’s about to be approved foe cardio vascular disease, but your family should not advise you to take anything if you’ve a heart complication that’s your medical teams job and I doubt anyone would prescribe to you due to it,