Really don't like dogs being in virtually every cafe now

[Wishididntseemsogrumpy]

I know another one, and yes this is quite trivial really.

Last week we went to a gorgeous new cafe, sat down, and within a minute I realised a large dog had appeared and was licking dds outstretched hand (she was delighted of course) then we had to get up and go and wash before eating, only to see the dog licking her hands again. Argh. Then it turned around and was wagging it's tail into me (I'm unfortunately allergic to fur and would rather not have to have fur on my clothes) - we werent even that close to the other table. It's just so annoying and I know I can ask it's owners to keep it away from us but seems a bit cruel to the dog and I jolly well shouldn't have to, they should be keeping an eye themselves without me having to have an awkward chat. Manners are meant to make everyone feel comfortable and not force people into seeming unreasonable because they don't want to get involved with the animal.

Then this afternoon, different cafe, on my own this time and got the fright of my life when all of a sudden a dog snarled and snapped at a child a few tables away, who of course screamed and was very distressed, someone could have had a heart attack!

I am going to have to be more mindful of places which don't have dogs in future I think.

And I imagine I am probably going to be told I am being unreasonable. I just want a coffee in peace without slobbering or snarling dogs

Dogs don't really have bottoms, though. As in they don't have buttocks. They don't need to wipe their bums, for this reason.

It is still a nonsensical comparison. (Again allergies/phobias aside) I don't imagine anyone would rather sit next to a pile of poo, than sit next to a dog, which is basically what the previous poster was saying.

That is disgusting

So nothing actually happened, did it?

And it’s one FEWER customer.

It is literally what chihuahuas were bred for, but if you say so.

The people who bred them must have been mentally unwell. It is disgusting to share a sleep space and soft furnishings with animals.

This is all it boils down to. Pearl clutching precious attitudes, no actual logical reasoning just 'because eew'.

The human race 'evolving' in this way frightens me.

Huskies, Samoyeds and shih tzus too, amongst others were all originally dogs with a purpose of keeping humans warm at night. There's a term (I think it is '2 dog night' or similar that some natives of colder climates use, referring to the number of dogs required on a cold night.

@AuntMatilda

dogs don’t wipe their arse after a shit. Humans do. Dogs don’t wear underwear. Humans do. Dogs don’t wear trousers. Humans do. So not the same at all.

also no idea why for your inverted commas around the word shit

@AuntMatilda

they have an anus. Where the shit comes out of. And also fur around the anus in which shit can stuck in. I’ve seen dogs with flecks of dried shit around their back end

Because it isn't a word I usually use and it has ambiguous meanings.

Dogs don't need to 'wipe their arse' because they don't have an 'arse'.

Dogs do not get 'shit' around their anus unless they're on a very poor diet or have an illness, in which case absolutely they should not be out in public.

But the fact that dogs don't 'wipe their arse' does not mean anybody is going to catch something from them.

My DH is allergic to dogs as well, but he just takes medication if he knows that he’s going to be around dogs. He doesn’t stress about it.

Really, dogs are here to stay, so why get so worked up about it? If you really can’t beat to be near a dog when going out for a meal, I find that a lot of decent restaurants only allow assistance dogs.

I think a key difference in recent years is that owners are now letting dogs off their leads to wander around the pub or cafe when previously they were expected to lie down under a table. I like dogs but I dont particularly want to have one inches away from my table dribbling and crying for some of my food. Not sure why some owners think this is acceptable or that people want your post walk muddy wet dog brushing up against you.

@AuntMatilda

Youre wrong. I’ve seen dogs with shit on the fur around their anus, literally seen it with my own eyes. And if that dog were then to sit on a chair and a human followed them onto that chair there would be some shit transferred

Oh dear, I’ve just realised that I wrote ‘can’t beat’ whereas I meant to put ‘can’t bear’. I hate predictive text sometimes! 🤣

Yep, all it boils down to. Of course it is. Have you actually read the thread? One example was an owner who watched their dog shit on a carpeted floor at a garden centre and walked off. Many, many more examples. If they’re bad it’s called exaggeration. If they’re not so bad it’s called pearl clutching.

It often goes the same way on this type of thread. Many examples of clear cut anti social behaviour, loads of sensible posters agreeing, many of them dog lovers themselves, then a vocal minority come along and scoff. It won’t work. The argument is already won.

I’ve seen this too - especially “poo” type dogs with the gross matted fur

I've seen humans come back form the toilet without washing their hands and then start touching the tables and chairs. It is why I wash my hands/use hand sanitiser before eating.

I've yet to contract E.coli.

@ChamonixMountainBum I can take a stab at suggesting why it is that some owners think it’s acceptable in pubs/cafés etc for their dogs to wander over to other people’s tables, so you have one inches away dribbling and crying for food. A sense of entitlement.

Justareceptionist hit the nail on the head on page 20: “You're not just expected to love dogs, you're expected to show love to every dog you meet. Fawn over it, stroke it, ask its name, tell the owner how gorgeous it is. People expect it, and I genuinely believe that's why lots of people get them.”

I’ve seen it with a family member as he’s exactly this sort of dog owner. It’s like a form of attention-seeking behaviour. These owners seem to act awfully put out if their dog is ignored or given cursory attention from others.
The attitude and vibe you get when you ask this sort of owner, “could you call your dog back over please,” is like the last scene of Invasion of the Body Snatchers when the pod person of Donald Sutherland’s character realises Veronica Cartwright’s character isn’t one of them. Here it is for those who haven’t seen it: (watch it from 2:13)

I’ve never been anywhere where dogs were wandering around off lead, unless the dog actually belonged to the establishment e.g pub. And I go to a lot of dog friendly places.

It’s becoming clear what kind of dog owner you might be.

Thankfully there are a lot of other responsible dog owners on this thread so I’m not going to them all with the same brush.

I don’t see tolerating sleeping in a bed with four dogs as an example of positive evolution either! Quite the opposite in fact.

I saw this three months ago at a café near me. I asked the woman to keep the dog with her and not let it wander around the café. She was quite indignant. Small café and Labrador/type animal. It does happen.

A dog wandering around an establishment in my experience is most likely to be looking for food. Yuck.

I hate it when they nuzzle my bag on the floor. Keep off please! Again, it is not the poor dog’s fault, it is the owner as usual.

Agreed it’s the owners fault. Not everyone loves your dog as much as you do.