Really don't like dogs being in virtually every cafe now

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I know another one, and yes this is quite trivial really.

Last week we went to a gorgeous new cafe, sat down, and within a minute I realised a large dog had appeared and was licking dds outstretched hand (she was delighted of course) then we had to get up and go and wash before eating, only to see the dog licking her hands again. Argh. Then it turned around and was wagging it's tail into me (I'm unfortunately allergic to fur and would rather not have to have fur on my clothes) - we werent even that close to the other table. It's just so annoying and I know I can ask it's owners to keep it away from us but seems a bit cruel to the dog and I jolly well shouldn't have to, they should be keeping an eye themselves without me having to have an awkward chat. Manners are meant to make everyone feel comfortable and not force people into seeming unreasonable because they don't want to get involved with the animal.

Then this afternoon, different cafe, on my own this time and got the fright of my life when all of a sudden a dog snarled and snapped at a child a few tables away, who of course screamed and was very distressed, someone could have had a heart attack!

I am going to have to be more mindful of places which don't have dogs in future I think.

And I imagine I am probably going to be told I am being unreasonable. I just want a coffee in peace without slobbering or snarling dogs

I always carry a bottle of that Suddenly perfume to spray on dogs when their owners aren't looking. It's the smell that gets to me. Don't their owners ever wash them?

No you don’t 😆

We had a newsagents shop and yes, it wasn't uncommon for dogs to piss or shit in the shop. Obviously not a daily occurrence but certainly a piss at least weekly and a shit every month or so. It was disgusting as we always had to clean it up as the dog owners either didn't notice (how??) or just couldn't give a toss and didn't want to clear it up themselves.

Human perfume is not good for dogs, but I am sure you know that already but you wont care. You also wont care about people who are unable to tolerate perfumes too.

😯 I would not be pleased with this Charlize.
Has nobody challenged you on this?

Brilliant. I have an eatery. They come in with massive prams and when I ask them how am I going to get around to other customers they get all up in my face, give me a dog any day although if it misbehave it has to go outside.

It’s not the equivalent at all though is it? The dog can just stay at home or in the garden. It doesn’t need to go out or have access in the same way a person does. People pushing their dogs around in push chairs just look like they are trying to compensate for not having a real baby, it’s anthropomorphisation and quite frankly a bit sad.

Yes, it is the same. Dog prams are a way to get ill/injured/elderly dogs out.
People using dog prams are not pretending they have a baby at all. You are making that up.

I wish there were more dog free places to eat. There's hardly any any more - just Wetherspoons so we end up there.

I have excellent sleight of hand and haven't been caught yet.

It's much trickier getting lipstick onto them.

Absolutely, you’ve summed it up perfectly. Dog walkers aren’t just one-time customers, they’re often the lifeline for these businesses, braving all weathers. It really does make a difference to café owners. It’s all about supporting local places that work hard to support their families and pay their bills, not about entitlement.

Oh my, a whole new level of horror which I've never even thought of.
I still have a deep wound on my leg from a deeply embedded tick months ago.

I guess I just don’t see the point - if it’s so elderly or injured, it can be humanely pts rather than parading it around like some sort of weird trophy.

Not everything on social media is driven by algorithms. I don’t even take my dogs to cafés, restaurants, or shops, yet the rise of dog-friendly places is obvious. Seems to be the new norm now, shame the anti-dog police can’t accept reality and learn to co-exist.

The dog can still walk, just not as far.
No one is parading their dogs about. Why are you making such wild claims?
The elderly lady I mentioned upthread takes her elderly dog out in a pram. She stops and talks to loads of people, so getting out is good for her too.
Or maybe she should stay at home with her dog, so you can stop pearl clutching about something that has no impact on you whatsoever.

I am sick of entitled dog owners. I like dogs but I don’t want them jumping up at me, or more specifically my young grandson who is terrified of them big or small. In a park the other day. Dog comes bounding over, grandson in hysterics. Owner shouts “sorry shes blind doesn’t know where she’s going” put her on the lead you dickhead! Lots of people are scared of dogs, especially children. Makes me very cross. I couldn’t even have a ‘discussion’ about it because I was too busy trying to calm my grandson down!

Well that’s just more nonsense from you.

Cafes are actively trying to attract customers with children - all the cafes around here have put in books and toys and some have even created dedicated corners/rooms just for children.

Just commenting on my experience - I have seen it several times. Person smugly walking about with a pram, practically begging people to stop and coo…only to find out it’s a dog not a baby and then enjoy the gotcha.

I really doubt that seeing as dog prams don't look like the prams human babies are taken out in.
But continue to make things up to make dog owners look bad.

Dog owners don’t need to me to make them look bad - they make themselves look bad all the time as demonstrated on this thread!

I like dogs and have one of my own.

What I've noticed in recent years though is that everyone is expected to love dogs, and if you don't, you're a terrible person.
Very often, it goes further than that. You're not just expected to love dogs, you're expected to show love to every dog you meet. Fawn over it, stroke it, ask it's name, tell the owner how gorgeous it is. People expect it, and I genuinely believe that's why lots of people get them.

I can't tell you the amount of visitors who come into my work with their dogs, straight from the car, no lead, and let the dog just run straight behind my desk while they sign in. Usually while smiling indulgently and saying "he's coming round to say hello!". No thought that I might not want to pet their dog or I might be in the middle of something. They just assume I must want to fuss over it.

The people who live across the road from me stand at the end of their driveway with their dog on a lead, and if people don't say hello to it as they pass, they will look after them with snarly looks. I have no idea why they stand there, presumably just go show the dog off?!

The people who bring them into cafes probably think they are doing everyone a big favour and making their cafe experience better with their wonderful poochy poos for you to pet, you lucky things.

That’s rubbish. I hate people fawning over my dog, it gets her in bad habits. Bizarrely it’s generally only doggy people who stand back and say is it ok to say hello.

Surely that works both ways? If you're going to take your dog out, it should know how to behave in public?

I understand what you're meaning, but unfortunately it isn't always that simple. Phobias don't tend to follow logic, no amount of trying would cure my fear of spiders for example! I suppose if spiders were on leads and under control, it might be easier to manage, but the unpredictable nature is exactly what makes phobias so difficult in shared spaces.

Not so much near us, many of ours have signs up re unattended children and zero toys- thank goodness.