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To dislike my new neighbour...

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worldshottestmom · 09/03/2026 20:42

As usual, this post is going to be a novel.

So, I moved into my current house 6 years ago. Its detached, but with gardens connected by the fence (relevant later on). There's around 8 houses in a row, we live on a quiet street, and i absolutely adore living here. The neighbours in all of these 8 houses are absolutely wonderful, lovely people. I moved into such a rich community vibe, neighbours knocked on my door to welcome me (never had that before anywhere and it was so pleasant and nice to have), and everybody gets along really well.

Last year, my next door neighbours decided to sell up. After the initial sale last April, the new homeowners came round every so often to do bits they needed to do with the house and whatever. Its a man ('Andy'), a woman ('Emily'), and their 2 DC (Roughly 4 and 1, I would guess). I shit you not, every single time I have seen this woman she has a face like absolute thunder. Its honestly scary. The first time I seen her I thought maybe she's just stressed with the kids and house move, totally understandable.

The more they visited the house, each time was the same. Obvious look of visible anger on her face, but only when with her family. When she spoke to my old neighbours, she would just give a flat fake smile and say thanks for whatever. Always kept very brief.

They moved in around 3 months ago now. During this time I have seen this woman having screaming, horrible go's at her husband on numerous occasions. He always just puts his head down and seems to mumble and walk off. She shouts at her children to no end, particularly the eldest. He is quite erratic and loud, but as are all kids his age. Everytime, she just jumps straight to shouting and screaming at him, no attempt to calmly reason with him first, etc. Just off the bat she loses it. If she's not shouting at them, it just feels she's hypervigilant to her children not embarrassing her in public. They were crossing the road to come home last week and he was swinging her hand holding it. Her annoyed expression turned quickly into a mean glare at him, then back to the annoyed face.

Its the way she treats her DH that bothers me and makes me feel suspicious that she is actually abusing him. Every time I have seen them, he always has the baby. There was an incident a few weeks ago, im not sure what happened but they were going somewhere in the car and Andy was holding the baby and helping the eldest DC into the car aswell. He was struggling to move the seat belts in baby's car seat and Emily genuinely just lunged from behind him and shouted "just give her here!" And snatched baby from him. The baby started crying and she screamed at Andy "now look what you've done!". He seemed really down after this and I think he was apologising to her and got in the car.

Then last week, he was putting a plastic bottle in the black bin and she ran outside screaming at him "NOOO" shouting that its recyclables and it can't go in there. I was in my living room at the time and her shouting was so loud that I jumped and rushed to look outside thinking something really bad had happened. Its getting to be such a headache. I've noticed Andy spends most of his time outside when Emily's home, as well. Even if it's raining, he's out in the garden just finding things to do. Sometimes he just sits in the car.

I want to add that I had not met them yet at this point, and didn't want to knock on and welcome them because I was honestly scared to have my head bitten clean off for daring to knock on her door. I asked the neighbours on their other side if they had met them yet or been round, as I hadn't. They said they went over a week after they first moved in to welcome them to the neighbourhood, here if they needed anything etc (as they did with me and everyone else). They said it was Emily who answered, and she was very off in a strange way, giving one-word answers, didn't introduce herself, quick to get going, etc. I asked if they had heard her shouting a lot lately, and they were relieved to tell me they had but didn't want to say anything. They have also heard her shouting at her husband in particular quite often.

Then comes last week. On Monday, when taking DC to nursery, I seen Andy getting ready to take his son to school. I used this opportunity to try and talk to him and introduce myself finally. I gave him a big smile and said good morning, and smiled and said hello to his son, with my kids saying hi to them as well. He didn't say a word. He looked at me so sheepish and brief, smiled, and put his head down to look at the floor. He just stood there while we walked past. It was at this point i started to actually wonder if she has told him he isn't allowed to speak to me / other neighbours. He may not have just wanted to know, but his whole aura was just very off and strange.

Then came today. I was going to the shops with my youngest. I was walking past their driveway as she was about turn in in her car, so I mouthed 'sorry!' To her, gave her a smile and quick wave as a thanks gesture, and quickly scuttled past so she could see i was making every effort not to be a pest. This woman rolled her eyes at me and then frustratingly raised her eyebrows in response. I was mildly horrified by this to be honest. I thought she would of at least just done the customary smile and wave back, but that's when I realised she truly is just awful.

now, I don't want to judge, as nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. I initially wanted to believe that she was probably doing everything house and childcare wise, and was really stressed and burnt out etc. But neither of them seem to work, or at least not much (maybe wfh). They both seem to be home most of the day every day. Andy does the school drop off and pick up. He frequently takes their DC out and about with just him. She goes out by herself a lot, but not much with them. With everything else I've seen, I just cant help but feel she's just an outright vile person? I know i could have this so wrong but I just have this feeling inside like something isn't right. My gut instinct is telling me she is abusing him (and her kids to an extent), but that could just be me being hypervigilant of these things because of being in an abusive relationship previously.

Im obviously not going to meddle in their business, but i can't help but feel devastated that im going to have to live next to these people for however many years longer. We had such a lovely community here and it feels so dimmed now. One of my neighbours holds a barbecue every summer and we all take food/drinks and go over, it's the highlight of my year (I don't have many friends), and really don't want to feel like we would be excluding them by not inviting them as that would be really nasty, yet feel if they did come it would be awkward and they/she would likely ruin it, even if just by being miserable.

Im also concerned about playing with my kids in the back garden in summer. Our back fences are joined and very low, and i can already foresee the awkwardness. Even if not that, the noise alone would be enough to put me off going out. I already feel myself dreading taking my dog out in the garden to do his business. When their windows are open the shouting is so damn loud.

Well, I hope you enjoyed my novel. This is really bothering me though and I dont know what to do other than move house.

AIBU to dislike neighbour/s, and have concerns?

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AmusedMember · 10/03/2026 12:15

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 10:57

I just feel really nervous calling them. I think I will and just mention the shouting and see what they say.

If she has nothing to hide, then there is no problem. Rather call then ignore.

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:16

Thunderpants88 · 10/03/2026 04:37

If I had concerns like this I would bite the bullet and invite her round for a coffee and try to strike up a friendship. She may need support. From the way Andy is behaving it made me wonder has he had an affair and nearly ripped their family apart and they have moved to start again, post partum. Playing devils advocate here as you never know.

people shout, not great and if you are genuinely concerned call SS. Considering they regularly miss people tragically abusing children it’s unlikely they will do much but it might be enough of a shock for her to check her behaviour. do be prepared to have major fallout from this though as she will probably easily narrow down who did it and then you will have majorly poked the bear.

Try to be genuinely objective. We like in a lovely neighbourhood, welcoming, kind thoughtful. Then our new neighbours came. Brought round a welcome bottle of wine, chocolates, flowers and a card and they looked at me like I had two heads. Majorly unfriendly, ignore us (and all other neighbours) completely. Never even mentioned a congrats when they saw us brining home a newborn. Not my kind of people but we just let it slide. They want to be unfriendly? That is entirely their right and I have to right to demand the behave any other way.

if you are intimidated to not gout in your garden because she may or may not be annoyed that is on you. As for not inviting them to the BBQ-that would just be mean.

Thanks for this. I was also wondering if he had done something previously to cause this, which is why i kept reiterating i dont want to involve myself given i have no idea was has gone on. Im just finding it hard to bear witnessing her shouting at her kids nastily a lot of the time now. I feel hesistant to invite her round given her facial expression everytime i see her indicates she would shout at me if I even look at her.

God your situation sounds quite similar. My neighbours said they went over and again it was like she just didnt want to know at all. Which is entirely their right, not just pleasant really. I think they should be invited to the BBQ, but honestly I dont think they would come. It would be nice to break the ice but it seems they dont want it broken. Entirely up to them.

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daffodilandtulip · 10/03/2026 12:16

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:22

My god, that is horrific, how deeply haunting that he felt he had to do that. Makes my blood boil and makes me so sad. Because it's a man everyone just thinks its a joke. Its a known thing men tend to suffer in silence in these scenarios due to fear of ridicule, and I would hate to be another bystander just letting it happen.

It was over ten years ago and it still haunts me. My blood still boils now, everytime I hear her voice. Everyone rolled their eyes and laughed at her screaming in the street, and I was made to feel silly for being concerned. Much older and wiser now, I wouldn’t hesitate. I’d rather be a time waster than think about a dead man.

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:17

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:19

Thepossibility · 10/03/2026 04:46

I was with you until you were musing about their work situation, that tipped it into gossipy neighbour territory.

Again would like to reiterate I wasnt bitching about their work situation AT ALL. I was highlighting that I was initially inclined to believe that she was annoyed all the time because perhaps she is carrying the entire home life load. But with them both seemingly in most of the day every day, and her husband always taking the kids out and doing school run etc, I doubt that this is the case.

I dont give a single fuck what anybody does for work, just to clarify.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:20

Nazzywish · 10/03/2026 05:41

You've noticed all this but haven't even bothered to knock on their door to introduce yourself or be welcoming? Says more about you. Maybe she sees you as the unwelcoming neighbour.

I was going to but didnt want to given that since before they moved in she seems constantly furious. Definitely not going to now my other neighbours have been round and she didn't want to know at all.

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Crikeyalmighty · 10/03/2026 12:21

@worldshottestmom yep and as others have said, whilst it’s shit you have no idea what may be underpinning this, she may just be a thoroughly nasty woman but it may be debt, gambling, non sleeping baby, other women , job losses- we can all show our shittier sides if stuff is going on , some people are just better at masking it than others .

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:25

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 07:00

Maybe the mother has mental issues or menopause??? And that excuses her abusing her family does it? WTAF?

So if it was a man that had ‘mental issues’, a was roaring at his wife and tiny children day in and day out, that would be okay too would it?

And if he’s a lump of gutlessness? Do you speak about abused women in the same way too? Honestly you should be ashamed.

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Thought the exact same at this comment and was too disgusted to even respond. She bears her own shame. Hit the nail on the head with your response. Apparently MH issues excuse abusing others as long as its a woman suffering with them. And if a man is being abused he is therefore gutless. Disgusting to hold these views in this day and age especially.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:27

daffodilandtulip · 10/03/2026 12:16

It was over ten years ago and it still haunts me. My blood still boils now, everytime I hear her voice. Everyone rolled their eyes and laughed at her screaming in the street, and I was made to feel silly for being concerned. Much older and wiser now, I wouldn’t hesitate. I’d rather be a time waster than think about a dead man.

God how horrific she still bloody lives there! That would make me sick. Other people on here have pointed out that if I have got all of this wrong and decide to contact SS, she will come down on me like a ton of bricks. And honestly, if that's the case, so be it. I would rather that than not do anything to protect my own peace and have something horrific happen to her kids / DH cos I didnt do anything. Its comments like yours that give people the strength to act in these situations. Thank you

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Godsprincess · 10/03/2026 12:27

So in 12 weeks of knowing them, you have decided the man and kids are being abused smh. Social services have a lot to deal with without dealing with ill founded reports from busybody neighbors. Stop projecting your past abusive relationship to her . No wonder they want nothing to do with you.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 12:28

Tbh, it sounds like they have come into a very insular community where they are expected to fit in and be part of the community, given you are all friends etc.

If you suspect the children are being abused, report them.

For everything else, just leave them alone to live their lives. The detail you have gone into on your OP is actually slightly chilling.

Maybe she doesn’t want to be besties with the neighbours. I would hate to have neighbours coming round introducing themselves etc, but sounds like she was polite though disinterested.

It probably doesn’t help that she knows you are all watching and judging her. If that was me, I would walk round with a face like a slapped arse too!

SixtySomething · 10/03/2026 12:30

CautiousLurker2 · 10/03/2026 09:07

I appreciate that you don’t mean to offend autistic people, but the inference is that ‘she may be grumpy because he is autistic’ is justifying her behaviour and condoning abuse of disabled people… not making eye contact and mumbling can also be a sign of just being abused, observed, scared. It’s common in abused and neglected children.

I wasn’t meaning or implying any of the things you suggest.
It’s basic that NT and ND individuals have different approaches to social structures including 121 communication. This inevitably causes misunderstandings and likely stress.
IMO , banning discussion of this obvious fact is concerning and suggests something that needs to be explained on the part of the banner.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 12:30

I get that you have a difficult past but the area you live in does not sound healthy for anyone. At some point your other neighbours may move out, others will move in, you can’t rely on them to be your only friends unfortunately.

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:32

Escapetothecatshome · 10/03/2026 07:15

Quietly when Andy is alone at the right moment, I’d just say if you ever need a to talk my door is always open. Just pop for a cup of tea and we can talk if you’d like to. No judgement, no pressure just an escape for 10 minutes if you want.

Completely different situation but I remember when I was having work done on my house, it was a huge renovation and an absolute nightmare if I’m honest, my neighbour must have seen how stressed I was and just gave me a key and said if I ever want to escape and come over, just chill, sit down have a cup of tea to help myself.

What I’m trying to say is just having that option made a huge difference. Sometimes we open a door, that people didn’t realise was there.

This is a wonderful suggestion, thank you. I think I will see if I can engage him in a quick conversation if he's out in the garden later and say this to him. I don't want him to think im overstepping any boundaries, so will present it as if any of them ever want to come over to chat then that would be welcomed.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:34

SideshowAuntSallyxx · 10/03/2026 07:39

If Andy is being abused, befriending him will make things worse believe me, it will also put the OP in the firing line.

If this is true, then she needs to contact the police and/or social services. Not start trying to befriend the husband which could be seen as her trying to split up a husband and wife or interfering in the marriage of two people she doesn't know.

This was exactly my thoughts! I've been tempted from these comments to try and discretely approach him even just to say hello. But I know from past experience, that if this is a case of DA, will only make matters worse. I just feel at a loss of what to do.

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 12:36

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:32

This is a wonderful suggestion, thank you. I think I will see if I can engage him in a quick conversation if he's out in the garden later and say this to him. I don't want him to think im overstepping any boundaries, so will present it as if any of them ever want to come over to chat then that would be welcomed.

I may have misread but it sounds like the main issue that she doesn’t want to be part of the community, I have RBF and I would struggle to pretend to be friendly to people knocking on my door like that and then bitching about me in the WhatsApp or whatever 😐

She didn’t outright tell them to fuck off when they knocked but even though she was civil, it doesn’t appear to be enough.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 12:40

She will have picked up that people don’t like her - I’m impressed she hasn’t said anything!

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:44

ClairDeLaLune · 10/03/2026 09:40

OP I really don’t understand why you’re getting such a hard time on here. Yes the post was long but not too challenging for those with a reasonable reading comprehension and attention span!

You sound like a lovely caring person, and I’m sorry you had such a tough time in an abusive relationship in the past, and that you don’t have many friends.

I think you should call social services and have a chat. It could be that Emily is suffering from PND and needs help. Or she might just be horrible. Social services would be best placed to help out. I wouldn’t go in all guns blazing by calling the police at this stage.

Remember the (somewhat misquoted here) words of Edmund Burke: All that is required for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

Really appreciate this comment, thank you. A wonderful quote in this scenario in particular. I appreciate the post is long, but im able to read books without zoning out after a paragraph lol.

Thank you for your kind words, too. This post has irked many people and I really dont know why. I agree, I will call SS today, from a place of care for that she might not be getting enough support, and I want to make sure her and her family arent suffering as a result. I definitely won't be phoning the police unless something really bad happens. I just hate to think I would be the one who just sat there and did nothing if something awful did happen.

Thank you for commenting x

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Lourdes12 · 10/03/2026 12:47

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 09/03/2026 21:38

Could you imagine if the sexes were reversed here, and it was a man thinking his male neighbour was abusing his wife… I’m pretty sure many of the responses would be very different.

Id try and catch the husband OP. Call round when you know she’s out and just strike up a conversation with him, see where it goes.

I would do this too

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:49

whymadam · 10/03/2026 09:51

OP what are the other neighbours experiencing? You seem to have good relationships with them, so maybe have a chat and see what their views are. Posters who say you are over-invested / curtain twitching need to F right off as they have clearly no idea what it's like to have a screaming neighbour. We had one 2 houses away but houses are in a kind of horse shoe shaped close so my god we ALL got the full brunt of this madman swearing and screaming abuse. Of course nobody dared go over and tell him to shut up - we were all too scared. So, yep, police got called, and that was the end of it. He moved out THANK GOD! Call the cops anonymously, don't wait another minute. If the neighbour confronts you blank her, just ignore. It wasn't you.

Well, we arent just in some big gossiping hate group against them like most of the people here seem to think lol. The only things that have been said between the other neighbours is that the shouting and noise is becoming quite unbearable and a few have witnessed her screaming at her kids and husband and think its wrong. We're all in the same place where we're a bit on the fence of if to get involved or not, as its not something anyone here has had to do before. Thats why I came on her to get a wider opinion, and from the comments have decided that I will advise SS of what is going on.

Im glad there are people here who can empathise, having loud neighbours like this is horrible for everybody involved. Thanks for commenting x

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:50

BillieWiper · 10/03/2026 10:48

Stop being so fucking nosy. How on earth can you write an entire essay about the minutiae of people and their personalities and lives and every single movement they make when you say you've never hardly met them?!

Nobody asked you to like them. But it's not acceptable to be so obsessed about other people's lives. Have you no concept of privacy.

If there's what you believe to be a crime taking place ring the police while it's happening. Or if you suspect child neglect call SS. Otherwise leave them alone.

Well you sound delightful. Im glad we arent friends.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:57

Untalkative · 10/03/2026 10:57

I’m certainly not being bitchy, just pointing out that some people are not primarily responding to the issue of possible abuse because, not only did your title focus on an entirely different issue, but people had to wade through a lot of stuff about your lovely other neighbours, and ‘Emily’s’ facial expressions when visiting the house before they even moved in, and hearsay about her lack of smiles to other neighbours, before we got anywhere near ‘Andy’. And then you were flying off again to potential noise in the garden in summer and the barbecue, which minimises any sense of the (possible) seriousness about possible spousal abuse.

And it was nothing to do with Emily’s behaviour to Andy or her children that made you decide ‘she’s truly awful’ and ‘mildly horrified’ you! It was when she didn’t smile and acknowledge you scuttling out of her way when she was driving out of her drive.

Bluntly, your judgement is so confused and inconsistent throughout your lengthy post, that I simply don’t trust it. If you’re more ‘horrified’ by Emily not responding as you expected when driving out past you than her possibly terrorising her DH and small children, it doesn’t make me think you’re a credible witness on possible domestic abuse.

If you think it’s going on, report it.

I see what youre saying. My initial post was very much all over the place, sorry for that. Its just a lot that's been going on. I already suspect she was quite nasty from the shouting at her kids etc, its more that her reaction to me politely apologising to her was so rude and uncalled for it solidified my initial thoughts. Up until this point, as I stated in my OP, i was debating whether she was just at the end of her tether with her DC and DH because she has a lot of other things going on behind closed doors, and may otherwise be a nice normal person. Just because shes shouting now may not mean its always like this. However, from her reaction to me during the car incident, as well as her nonchalant tone with my other neighbours, this made me conclude she probably just isnt very nice.

I think you've taken my post in the wrong way really. I was simulatenously trying to highlight my own disain towards the situation and how its impacting me and my peace personally, as well as highlighting my concerns of her own behaviour towards her family. I was simply raising two points at once, and dont really see why so many people have missed this point. Perhaps my long winded post made it come across that im more worried about barbecues and my neighbourhood, which im not. My main concern is her children and potential abuse of her DH. However, would also prefer if I wasnt hearing shouting and screaming every day. Hope this clarifies.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:59

EvieBB · 10/03/2026 11:00

There are some really weird and unkind comments on here that say more about them than you. I personally enjoyed reading your essay and read every word and feel sorry that you're living next door to that horrible woman. Hope things gets sorted x

Thank you for this, I appreciate it. Its really not nice to live next to tbh and each day just seems to get worse. Thanks for your kind words, I hope so too x

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 13:01

FlowerFairyDaisy · 10/03/2026 11:16

This is very sad to read.

I have a friend who was abused by his wife for years. He stayed and put up with it because of their child. Eventually, she went too far one night and the neighbours called the police. She was arrested and charged.

Mt friend left and when his daughter turned 16, she also left to go and live with him.

I would just continue as you are and be friendly towards him. I don't think there's a lot more you can do other than obviously call the police or Social Services if you hear anything more worrying.

Go that sounds awful. Its so sad how quick people are to dismiss potential abuse cases if it is a man who is the victim. I will be advising SS today, I just hope they can support this family.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 13:05

Zfdgcc · 10/03/2026 11:02

Perhaps she’s furious because she didn’t realise she was moving into an area where The Stepford Wives live!

In all seriousness I can understand your concerns to an extent. But you know absolutely nothing about them. She could have an illness for all you know. Or they might have overstretched themselves financially buying the house etc. There are so many other reasons why they might have this dynamic that don’t involve abuse. You seem to be judging them very harshly. Gossiping about them with the other neighbours might come across quite hostile to your new neighbours. Because you can hear them, they might also be able to hear you. Your post reads like they are dragging the neighbourhood down. If they pick that vibe up from everyone it would make anyone stressed! Not everyone has perfect happy clappy lives.

Also it’s quite misogynistic that you think somethings wrong because the dad mainly has the kids and the wife goes out 😱 alone😱.

I know there are a plethora of reasons that could cause this, which is why I reiterated many times I dont know whats going on behind closed doors and dont know what to make of it. Just wanted a wider opinion as I have a serious concern regarding her children, and her husband. Nobody has gone out of their way to gossip about them, just raised our concerns to each other that the shouting is becoming quite unbearable and nobody knowing if/what to do.

I don't care what they do in their lives, but subjecting everyone to loud shouting on the daily isnt okay in my book.

And to reiterate once again, I only mentioned her going out alone a lot to emphasise she doesn't seem to be the one doing everything at home. My initial thought was to assume she was annoyed from doing all housework / childcare, but it only ever seems to be him taking them out, to school, etc. I wasnt gasping at the thought of her going anywhere alone without her kids.

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