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To dislike my new neighbour...

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worldshottestmom · 09/03/2026 20:42

As usual, this post is going to be a novel.

So, I moved into my current house 6 years ago. Its detached, but with gardens connected by the fence (relevant later on). There's around 8 houses in a row, we live on a quiet street, and i absolutely adore living here. The neighbours in all of these 8 houses are absolutely wonderful, lovely people. I moved into such a rich community vibe, neighbours knocked on my door to welcome me (never had that before anywhere and it was so pleasant and nice to have), and everybody gets along really well.

Last year, my next door neighbours decided to sell up. After the initial sale last April, the new homeowners came round every so often to do bits they needed to do with the house and whatever. Its a man ('Andy'), a woman ('Emily'), and their 2 DC (Roughly 4 and 1, I would guess). I shit you not, every single time I have seen this woman she has a face like absolute thunder. Its honestly scary. The first time I seen her I thought maybe she's just stressed with the kids and house move, totally understandable.

The more they visited the house, each time was the same. Obvious look of visible anger on her face, but only when with her family. When she spoke to my old neighbours, she would just give a flat fake smile and say thanks for whatever. Always kept very brief.

They moved in around 3 months ago now. During this time I have seen this woman having screaming, horrible go's at her husband on numerous occasions. He always just puts his head down and seems to mumble and walk off. She shouts at her children to no end, particularly the eldest. He is quite erratic and loud, but as are all kids his age. Everytime, she just jumps straight to shouting and screaming at him, no attempt to calmly reason with him first, etc. Just off the bat she loses it. If she's not shouting at them, it just feels she's hypervigilant to her children not embarrassing her in public. They were crossing the road to come home last week and he was swinging her hand holding it. Her annoyed expression turned quickly into a mean glare at him, then back to the annoyed face.

Its the way she treats her DH that bothers me and makes me feel suspicious that she is actually abusing him. Every time I have seen them, he always has the baby. There was an incident a few weeks ago, im not sure what happened but they were going somewhere in the car and Andy was holding the baby and helping the eldest DC into the car aswell. He was struggling to move the seat belts in baby's car seat and Emily genuinely just lunged from behind him and shouted "just give her here!" And snatched baby from him. The baby started crying and she screamed at Andy "now look what you've done!". He seemed really down after this and I think he was apologising to her and got in the car.

Then last week, he was putting a plastic bottle in the black bin and she ran outside screaming at him "NOOO" shouting that its recyclables and it can't go in there. I was in my living room at the time and her shouting was so loud that I jumped and rushed to look outside thinking something really bad had happened. Its getting to be such a headache. I've noticed Andy spends most of his time outside when Emily's home, as well. Even if it's raining, he's out in the garden just finding things to do. Sometimes he just sits in the car.

I want to add that I had not met them yet at this point, and didn't want to knock on and welcome them because I was honestly scared to have my head bitten clean off for daring to knock on her door. I asked the neighbours on their other side if they had met them yet or been round, as I hadn't. They said they went over a week after they first moved in to welcome them to the neighbourhood, here if they needed anything etc (as they did with me and everyone else). They said it was Emily who answered, and she was very off in a strange way, giving one-word answers, didn't introduce herself, quick to get going, etc. I asked if they had heard her shouting a lot lately, and they were relieved to tell me they had but didn't want to say anything. They have also heard her shouting at her husband in particular quite often.

Then comes last week. On Monday, when taking DC to nursery, I seen Andy getting ready to take his son to school. I used this opportunity to try and talk to him and introduce myself finally. I gave him a big smile and said good morning, and smiled and said hello to his son, with my kids saying hi to them as well. He didn't say a word. He looked at me so sheepish and brief, smiled, and put his head down to look at the floor. He just stood there while we walked past. It was at this point i started to actually wonder if she has told him he isn't allowed to speak to me / other neighbours. He may not have just wanted to know, but his whole aura was just very off and strange.

Then came today. I was going to the shops with my youngest. I was walking past their driveway as she was about turn in in her car, so I mouthed 'sorry!' To her, gave her a smile and quick wave as a thanks gesture, and quickly scuttled past so she could see i was making every effort not to be a pest. This woman rolled her eyes at me and then frustratingly raised her eyebrows in response. I was mildly horrified by this to be honest. I thought she would of at least just done the customary smile and wave back, but that's when I realised she truly is just awful.

now, I don't want to judge, as nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. I initially wanted to believe that she was probably doing everything house and childcare wise, and was really stressed and burnt out etc. But neither of them seem to work, or at least not much (maybe wfh). They both seem to be home most of the day every day. Andy does the school drop off and pick up. He frequently takes their DC out and about with just him. She goes out by herself a lot, but not much with them. With everything else I've seen, I just cant help but feel she's just an outright vile person? I know i could have this so wrong but I just have this feeling inside like something isn't right. My gut instinct is telling me she is abusing him (and her kids to an extent), but that could just be me being hypervigilant of these things because of being in an abusive relationship previously.

Im obviously not going to meddle in their business, but i can't help but feel devastated that im going to have to live next to these people for however many years longer. We had such a lovely community here and it feels so dimmed now. One of my neighbours holds a barbecue every summer and we all take food/drinks and go over, it's the highlight of my year (I don't have many friends), and really don't want to feel like we would be excluding them by not inviting them as that would be really nasty, yet feel if they did come it would be awkward and they/she would likely ruin it, even if just by being miserable.

Im also concerned about playing with my kids in the back garden in summer. Our back fences are joined and very low, and i can already foresee the awkwardness. Even if not that, the noise alone would be enough to put me off going out. I already feel myself dreading taking my dog out in the garden to do his business. When their windows are open the shouting is so damn loud.

Well, I hope you enjoyed my novel. This is really bothering me though and I dont know what to do other than move house.

AIBU to dislike neighbour/s, and have concerns?

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EvieBB · 10/03/2026 11:23

Hoppinggreen · 10/03/2026 10:58

You think a man and 2 children are being abused and your main concern is about how this affects your community BBQs?

I don't think you've read the post correctly.....

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:24

EvieBB · 09/03/2026 23:08

Exactly thought! Her post was deeply weird.
Perhaps she's Emily?!! Lol

Thank you for this. A lot of people here dont seem to be able to wrap their head around that my concerns for her family and me being bothered by the noise within my personal life can co-exist in duality.

Im not Emily, thank god. Glad you find this all very amusing and entertaining though.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:25

Friendlygingercat · 09/03/2026 23:15

Some people are just "shouty". Try ear plugs. And you might want to put up a new fence on your land just inside the boundary. They say that high fences make good neighbours.

Yeah a few have suggested this and im looking into it, just as a precaution.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:28

Lavender14 · 09/03/2026 22:55

If you think it's abusive and there are kids in the house then you report it anonymously to social services.

If you think this is a mum with PPD in the middle of getting her family moved etc then I'd be inclined to watch and wait and try to be friendly and offer support and connection. If her child is under 1 and she never has the baby with her it's very possible she's mentally struggling.

But if you think it's abuse then you need to report.

This is what made me feel so divided. I think ive decided i will advise SS about the situation, but come from a place of concern for the mother as well as the kids and husband. I pointed out she never has the baby to highlight I dont think shes stressed from having to solely care for them while the DH does nothing. As he always seems to have them. Perhaps she is struggling mentally after having the second baby, and will just advise SS perhaps shes struggling with the new addition, and maybe isnt getting enough support. Perhaps her DH is trying to carry the load for her, and as a result is also suffering.

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Catwalking · 10/03/2026 11:29

Our adjoining house is a Tied accommodation & tenants regularly change.
We’ve been here for over 40yrs & we’re very glad when the previous tenant left after experiencing over 5 yrs of the shouty wife as worldshottestmom is experiencing. She’d shout totally unreasonable things at all her family members apart from her father at any time of day or night (yep even woke me 1 xmas day @ 1.00am). All our family (5 adults) have ‘noticed’, what a fish wife (& how unreasonable) she was! Think we all just got used to it, but we’re defo pleased they’ve gone now 👍.
Occasionally i did wonder if it was PMT. But dunno if that’d make some1 as unreasonable & thoughtless as she?

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:29

CoralOP · 09/03/2026 23:05

She sounds like my husbands friends wife. She scoulds, shouts, glares, swears and is just generally an obnoxious, loud, angry, pretty vile person for no apparent reason, all of the time.
If you do want to try and get more information I would maybe try and talk to him more, ask him for something when he's in the garden, I imagine he will warm to you eventually if you keep chit chatting. Try and chat to the kids too. Just ignore her, grey rock her as they say.

This is great advice, thank you. I've been thinking of ways I could talk to them without just knocking on their door and being a nuisance. I will try this, as he is in the garden a lot. Thank you

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:30

Pistachiocake · 09/03/2026 23:17

Abuse is serious, whichever way round it is, and if she is abusing a partner in front of kids, you could ring social services. Years ago, a neighbour attacked his wife, and it all started with him "just" yelling at her, and lots of people regret not calling because they didn't want to overreact. It might be she needs help, and the professionals could determine that and get the family the help they need, or at least put your mind at rest.

God thats Awful. Its always how it starts and this is what is playing on my mind, that I dont want things to escalate and not do anything when I could of. I do feel that feeling of am I just overreacting. Better to be safe than sorry though

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:32

Fingalscave · 09/03/2026 23:18

What will have happened is that the old neighbours will have told Emily and Andy that everyone round here is friendly, but watch out for the woman next door, she's really nosy and you can't even have a row without her standing at her window making notes.

Yes let's all just ignore a grown woman screaming at a 4 year old and a 1 year old and her husband on the daily. If it were a man doing all this I doubt you're hilarious joke would of sounded quite so funny in your head. Do better next time.

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KTMeetsTheRsUptown · 10/03/2026 11:32

Glitchymn1 · 09/03/2026 21:12

I’d have concerns too, there may be DV people like to mock but it does happen and is under reported. Keep a log and ring 111 or 999. It’s not good for children to be experiencing this.

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I totally agree with this.

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:34

Fingalscave · 09/03/2026 23:30

I think you've had a sense of humour failure.

Thanks for outing yourself as someone who finds abuse funny, as long as its only against men and children. Jesus

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:36

90sTrifle · 09/03/2026 23:45

As she has a one year old, she could be suffering from post-partum depression. This can show through anger as it’s a long-lasting mood disorder.

Maybe she wasn’t always like this.

Until this is brought to her attention, she would have no-idea why’s she’s losing her sh*t all the time.

This i why I feel so awful to contact SS in case this is whats going on and just makes it worse for her. Equally, her children need protecting and shouldn't be enduring screaming and shouting because she won't seek help. Im hoping contacting SS will provide her with the support she clearly needs.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:38

Daygloboo · 09/03/2026 23:47

If this post is genuine, then maybe you should observe for a couple of weeks more and then if you really think she is abusing her family I would go to SS and have a word. Im wondering if she has a personality disorder or some kind of MH issue ? It does sound odd. It's very unhealthy for the children.

It is genuine, I know its long but I kept remembering other things that happened and it ended up looking like a story lol. Sadly it is true. I have been debating whether to contact SS now or wait a bit. I think I will jsut contact them to advise of the situation and see if they think action needs to be taken, in the form of checking in on her mentally and providing her with any support she needs. The shouting is daily now and so loud when they have their windows open, let alone when theyre outside.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:44

Lastofthesummerwines · 09/03/2026 23:56

Some weird posts on here... No wonder so many abused children (and adults) end up hurt or dead coz everyone turns a blind eye and criticises anyone who doesn't...

OP you're not in the wrong to be concerned and don't listen to the posters who are basically mocking you.

I would definitely speak to Andy quietly and even if it's just to show him a bit of neighbourly warmth it doesn't sound like he has a lot of that in his life.
This is one of the many reasons why so many men take their own lives coz they don't feel like they have any support . Women talk to each other. Men bottle up their feelings. Even if he doesn't open up to you, a friendly smile or a wave might make his day. That in turn might help the kids .

Do the kids go to your kids school? You might be able to approach a trusted person at school and ask for advice. Maybe they have seen something from the kids which might tie ends together.

Thank you for this, and i agree completely. Cannot believe in this day and age so many people still find it perfectly okay to mock and dismiss men potentially being abused. Especially the kids as well.

I will continue trying to smile at him / say hello. I hope ive gotten this wrong tbh but my gut feeling just knows something isnt right. Even my mother has noticed the shouting when shes visited me, asking if it goes on all the time etc. It really is quite loud and obnoxious, and it is getting to be constant.

They dont go to the same school unfortunately. I think I know what school he goes to, but I will contact SS first just to see what they make of it. I want to stress to them im not trying to get anybody into trouble, im just trying to prioritise the kids welfare, and that of the husband and wife, really.

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worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:45

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 09/03/2026 23:59

Ya, that’s right. Ignore the roaring, potential abusive woman next door, and her potentially downtrodden husband and tiny children. Nothing to see there 🙄

Honestly cannot understand why so many women here are just making a joke out of this and using this post to call me crazy and insult me lol. Almost astounded by their readiness to dismiss a potential case of a abuse against a man and children. But hey I guess men just dont matter, huh.

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EvieBB · 10/03/2026 11:46

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 07:00

Maybe the mother has mental issues or menopause??? And that excuses her abusing her family does it? WTAF?

So if it was a man that had ‘mental issues’, a was roaring at his wife and tiny children day in and day out, that would be okay too would it?

And if he’s a lump of gutlessness? Do you speak about abused women in the same way too? Honestly you should be ashamed.

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Totally agree. I am appalled at some of the comments on here. Makes me wonder if those posters resonate with "Emily". Hideous.

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:47

Godsprincess · 10/03/2026 00:47

Your Neighborhood sounds like my worst nightmare. Good for her . I hope her attitude continues to keep all of her nosey busybodyneighbors off her doorstep. Leave them alone 🙄🙄

Good for her screaming at her infant children daily? If you say so.

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Lifestooshort71 · 10/03/2026 11:50

It might be worth keeping a diary of times and what you heard in case SS want some hard facts? I'd try and separate your disappointment at how the local dynamics have changed (happens everywhere eventually) and concentrate on the family's wellbeing and why there is so much shouting. Regardless of whether their circumstances have changed, it's not healthy for children to have to live in such a toxic atmosphere.

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:52

keepswimming38 · 10/03/2026 02:47

Are you bored op? I wonder what people say about me. I don’t scream at kids but when I’m walking to my car I definitely don’t grin. Mm

Its not that she doesnt have a smile plastered to her face 24/7, its that she constantly looks and is furious. But you know that already from reading the post, and seeing she screams and shouts at all her family members on a daily basis. You just thought you would ignore it to make a clever comment, so, well done.

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JockTamsonsBairns · 10/03/2026 11:54

MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 04:27

“taking the dog out in the garden to do his business “ ?! You should be taking the poor dog on proper walks to parks etc, poor dog !

Really? My cocker spaniel used to run for several miles across the Yorkshire Dales every day. She also went out to the garden for a wee at different times of the day. That's not abnormal surely?

This thread is weird.

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:55

User122333 · 10/03/2026 03:31

My guess would be PND, which can manifest as anger or irritability. You can report anonymously.

Can someone explain about the joined fence? Just can’t picture that.

Yes this is what im thinking. I just want to try and get her some support so her family doesnt have to suffer.

So they're all detached houses but quite small, so the gardens are joined at the sides and back, only separated by a low fence.

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Crikeyalmighty · 10/03/2026 11:56

She sounds unpleasant OP but I’m afraid that’s life - not all neighbours are friendly lovely people on the same wave length as you . I’ve had my lovely single lady my own age group next door been replaced by a bit of a busybody bloke who retired early and is obsessed by house things ( his wife is lovely) not much I can do about it - I would try to ignore it unless you see actual abuse of kids - some people just do have very volatile relationships.

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:59

Isittimeformynapyet · 10/03/2026 04:15

I can't see anything in your jokey post that distinguishes it from all the others that are simply mocking the OP and I absolutely love a joke 😃

I've got plenty of neighbours and although we're not buddies we rub along OK. I'm pretty much familiar with their routines, not because I pay attention or spend any time watching out of my window, but you get an idea after several years of living side by side.

They are all unremarkable, but if there was any shouting going on I'd definitely be going to have a look! And if it happened regularly I'm sure we'd all clock who was involved and who looked like the aggressor. And it wouldn't take long before a couple of neighbours were commenting to each other about it.

The OP didn't help herself by being really long winded and detailed about it, but I don't think she's any more of a curtain twitching freak than a lot of us.

Thank you lol. I do realise my initial post was very long winded, I kept remembering other things that had happened and it ended up being a short story lmao. Sorry about that.

Hit the nail on the head though. Im not standing at my window with a pair of binoculars praying for something to happen. Its quite as you described. Im just inside minding my business, or washing my dishes at the kitchen window, and hear screaming and shouting and go to see whats happening. I feel more inclined to look now knowing what shes like, to make sure shes not actually physically hurting them. I would love to go back to living my peaceful life before they moved in, but it just doesnt seem to be happening. Especially now I suspect she may actually be abusing them, im not going to turn a blind eye whenever I hear her doing it again.

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Untalkative · 10/03/2026 12:02

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:44

Thank you for this, and i agree completely. Cannot believe in this day and age so many people still find it perfectly okay to mock and dismiss men potentially being abused. Especially the kids as well.

I will continue trying to smile at him / say hello. I hope ive gotten this wrong tbh but my gut feeling just knows something isnt right. Even my mother has noticed the shouting when shes visited me, asking if it goes on all the time etc. It really is quite loud and obnoxious, and it is getting to be constant.

They dont go to the same school unfortunately. I think I know what school he goes to, but I will contact SS first just to see what they make of it. I want to stress to them im not trying to get anybody into trouble, im just trying to prioritise the kids welfare, and that of the husband and wife, really.

OP, SS will just take the address and ask for your specific concerns stated as briefly and concretely as possible — they won’t be having a conversation with you about whether your neighbour possibly has PND, and they don’t have a separate system for neighbours who ‘don’t want to get anyone into trouble’. If you’re reporting, you’re reporting because you have serious welfare concerns. After that it’s over to them. You will never know any more about it unless you’re home when someone who might be a social worker arrives at the house, and what happens after that is out of your hands.

ETA So make a list of concrete things you’ve seen and heard, not stuff about her not acknowledging you from her car and hearsay from neighbours and the barbecue. What, specifically, has made you think her children and DH are at risk?

Fingalscave · 10/03/2026 12:09

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 11:34

Thanks for outing yourself as someone who finds abuse funny, as long as its only against men and children. Jesus

Quantum leap!

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 12:10

SulkySeagull · 10/03/2026 06:16

I can’t believe the responses on here! If the tables were turned and OP was witnessing a husband treat his wife in the same way there would be cries to call the police.

OP, when you saw her roll your eyes at you what did you do? I would start meeting fire with fire - do it back to her, start complaining about the screaming and shouting, bang on the door and tell her to stfu. She sounds like an abusive prick.

Thank You for this. I agree completely. I had already pm walked past when she did it and sort of just did a confused frown and walked away. I was blindsided by such an impolite reaction I didnt really know how to respond. I will be contacting SS today just to ensure shes not doing worse behind closed doors, and make sure her and her family are getting the support they need. I have to say i do just get the impression shes quite a nasty person, but then again we dont know, so I hope if she needs the support then SS can provide that to her.

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