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To dislike my new neighbour...

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worldshottestmom · 09/03/2026 20:42

As usual, this post is going to be a novel.

So, I moved into my current house 6 years ago. Its detached, but with gardens connected by the fence (relevant later on). There's around 8 houses in a row, we live on a quiet street, and i absolutely adore living here. The neighbours in all of these 8 houses are absolutely wonderful, lovely people. I moved into such a rich community vibe, neighbours knocked on my door to welcome me (never had that before anywhere and it was so pleasant and nice to have), and everybody gets along really well.

Last year, my next door neighbours decided to sell up. After the initial sale last April, the new homeowners came round every so often to do bits they needed to do with the house and whatever. Its a man ('Andy'), a woman ('Emily'), and their 2 DC (Roughly 4 and 1, I would guess). I shit you not, every single time I have seen this woman she has a face like absolute thunder. Its honestly scary. The first time I seen her I thought maybe she's just stressed with the kids and house move, totally understandable.

The more they visited the house, each time was the same. Obvious look of visible anger on her face, but only when with her family. When she spoke to my old neighbours, she would just give a flat fake smile and say thanks for whatever. Always kept very brief.

They moved in around 3 months ago now. During this time I have seen this woman having screaming, horrible go's at her husband on numerous occasions. He always just puts his head down and seems to mumble and walk off. She shouts at her children to no end, particularly the eldest. He is quite erratic and loud, but as are all kids his age. Everytime, she just jumps straight to shouting and screaming at him, no attempt to calmly reason with him first, etc. Just off the bat she loses it. If she's not shouting at them, it just feels she's hypervigilant to her children not embarrassing her in public. They were crossing the road to come home last week and he was swinging her hand holding it. Her annoyed expression turned quickly into a mean glare at him, then back to the annoyed face.

Its the way she treats her DH that bothers me and makes me feel suspicious that she is actually abusing him. Every time I have seen them, he always has the baby. There was an incident a few weeks ago, im not sure what happened but they were going somewhere in the car and Andy was holding the baby and helping the eldest DC into the car aswell. He was struggling to move the seat belts in baby's car seat and Emily genuinely just lunged from behind him and shouted "just give her here!" And snatched baby from him. The baby started crying and she screamed at Andy "now look what you've done!". He seemed really down after this and I think he was apologising to her and got in the car.

Then last week, he was putting a plastic bottle in the black bin and she ran outside screaming at him "NOOO" shouting that its recyclables and it can't go in there. I was in my living room at the time and her shouting was so loud that I jumped and rushed to look outside thinking something really bad had happened. Its getting to be such a headache. I've noticed Andy spends most of his time outside when Emily's home, as well. Even if it's raining, he's out in the garden just finding things to do. Sometimes he just sits in the car.

I want to add that I had not met them yet at this point, and didn't want to knock on and welcome them because I was honestly scared to have my head bitten clean off for daring to knock on her door. I asked the neighbours on their other side if they had met them yet or been round, as I hadn't. They said they went over a week after they first moved in to welcome them to the neighbourhood, here if they needed anything etc (as they did with me and everyone else). They said it was Emily who answered, and she was very off in a strange way, giving one-word answers, didn't introduce herself, quick to get going, etc. I asked if they had heard her shouting a lot lately, and they were relieved to tell me they had but didn't want to say anything. They have also heard her shouting at her husband in particular quite often.

Then comes last week. On Monday, when taking DC to nursery, I seen Andy getting ready to take his son to school. I used this opportunity to try and talk to him and introduce myself finally. I gave him a big smile and said good morning, and smiled and said hello to his son, with my kids saying hi to them as well. He didn't say a word. He looked at me so sheepish and brief, smiled, and put his head down to look at the floor. He just stood there while we walked past. It was at this point i started to actually wonder if she has told him he isn't allowed to speak to me / other neighbours. He may not have just wanted to know, but his whole aura was just very off and strange.

Then came today. I was going to the shops with my youngest. I was walking past their driveway as she was about turn in in her car, so I mouthed 'sorry!' To her, gave her a smile and quick wave as a thanks gesture, and quickly scuttled past so she could see i was making every effort not to be a pest. This woman rolled her eyes at me and then frustratingly raised her eyebrows in response. I was mildly horrified by this to be honest. I thought she would of at least just done the customary smile and wave back, but that's when I realised she truly is just awful.

now, I don't want to judge, as nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. I initially wanted to believe that she was probably doing everything house and childcare wise, and was really stressed and burnt out etc. But neither of them seem to work, or at least not much (maybe wfh). They both seem to be home most of the day every day. Andy does the school drop off and pick up. He frequently takes their DC out and about with just him. She goes out by herself a lot, but not much with them. With everything else I've seen, I just cant help but feel she's just an outright vile person? I know i could have this so wrong but I just have this feeling inside like something isn't right. My gut instinct is telling me she is abusing him (and her kids to an extent), but that could just be me being hypervigilant of these things because of being in an abusive relationship previously.

Im obviously not going to meddle in their business, but i can't help but feel devastated that im going to have to live next to these people for however many years longer. We had such a lovely community here and it feels so dimmed now. One of my neighbours holds a barbecue every summer and we all take food/drinks and go over, it's the highlight of my year (I don't have many friends), and really don't want to feel like we would be excluding them by not inviting them as that would be really nasty, yet feel if they did come it would be awkward and they/she would likely ruin it, even if just by being miserable.

Im also concerned about playing with my kids in the back garden in summer. Our back fences are joined and very low, and i can already foresee the awkwardness. Even if not that, the noise alone would be enough to put me off going out. I already feel myself dreading taking my dog out in the garden to do his business. When their windows are open the shouting is so damn loud.

Well, I hope you enjoyed my novel. This is really bothering me though and I dont know what to do other than move house.

AIBU to dislike neighbour/s, and have concerns?

OP posts:
MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 19:54

SparklyGlitterballs · 10/03/2026 06:45

who says OP doesn't do this? My dog goes on 'proper' walks to the park, but he still needs to do wees/poos at other times of the day. I generally watch him while he's in the garden because he's a digger. Nothing at all wrong with accompanying your dog in the garden.

Fair enough

MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 19:56

JockTamsonsBairns · 10/03/2026 11:54

Really? My cocker spaniel used to run for several miles across the Yorkshire Dales every day. She also went out to the garden for a wee at different times of the day. That's not abnormal surely?

This thread is weird.

That’s normal but OP said she “takes” dog out into garden and dreads seeing neighbours. Which implies that’s where she takes dog for a walk, instead of just” letting” it out where she wouldn’t see neighbours

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 19:58

MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 19:56

That’s normal but OP said she “takes” dog out into garden and dreads seeing neighbours. Which implies that’s where she takes dog for a walk, instead of just” letting” it out where she wouldn’t see neighbours

That is ridiculous and it's kinda weird you read that much into it tbh.

OP posts:
NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 20:01

MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 19:56

That’s normal but OP said she “takes” dog out into garden and dreads seeing neighbours. Which implies that’s where she takes dog for a walk, instead of just” letting” it out where she wouldn’t see neighbours

Jesus Christ, the pedanticism, give it a rest!

The OP should be able to go out in the garden with her dog at any bloody time she wants! If she wants to accompany her dog for every single wee he takes then that’s her right. It’s her garden. She should not have to bear witness to her neighbour regularly roaring at her husband, toddler and baby! It shouldn’t be happening at all, it’s abusive.

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 20:03

MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 19:44

no but are you weird?
You said you “dreading taking my dog out in the garden to do his business”
why do you need to “take” it out. Why not “let” it out . Then you don’t have to “dread” seeing the neighbours as you’re still in home, where people tend to be when they “let” their dog out. Your post implies you take dog out for a walk in garden . I should hope you do take your dog a proper walk twice a day and not just a walk in the garden. ( nor round the block / streets , as some lazy dog owners do - not saying you ).

I take him out twice a day, just to clarify. I let him out in the garden, multiple times a day. I often go out with him, because I like to go outside. I hope this helps.

OP posts:
MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 20:03

Tinytimmy123 · 10/03/2026 07:59

Why are you so needlessly nasty. I have a dog thats walked twice daily, he still needs to be let.out to pee or poo several times beyond this. Do you have a dog? Do you not know this? Sometimes I even walk into the garden with him. 🙄

that’s not being nasty , no need to overreact. I was just concerned for the dog. Being let out is fine, but it sounded like that’s where op “takes” it for a walk and dreads seeing neighbours.
Other than that , unless there is domestic violence or nuisance going on then not much to be done. it just doesn’t seem like they’re going to fit OPs ideal of an idyllic Ramsay Street neighbour

MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 20:07

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 20:03

I take him out twice a day, just to clarify. I let him out in the garden, multiple times a day. I often go out with him, because I like to go outside. I hope this helps.

Yes, I like to know pets are well looked after.

MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 20:10

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 20:01

Jesus Christ, the pedanticism, give it a rest!

The OP should be able to go out in the garden with her dog at any bloody time she wants! If she wants to accompany her dog for every single wee he takes then that’s her right. It’s her garden. She should not have to bear witness to her neighbour regularly roaring at her husband, toddler and baby! It shouldn’t be happening at all, it’s abusive.

Yeah I’d probably report the shouting if it was a nuisance or a concern , better safe than sorry

pimplebum · 10/03/2026 20:13

You say she is stressed from doing everything but he is always holding baby - what is wrong with him holding baby ?

you have over analysis of every facial expression , some people look at the floor and avoid eye contact

id put or post two different notes in different handwriting asking her to stop screaming at her kids and husband

maybe hand her a leaflet about post natal depression and a hearing test

MissApplejack · 10/03/2026 20:16

worldshottestmom · 10/03/2026 19:58

That is ridiculous and it's kinda weird you read that much into it tbh.

I thought your OP was a bit ridiculous & weird tbh but I wouldn’t have been rude enough to say it, but fair enough

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 20:25

pimplebum · 10/03/2026 20:13

You say she is stressed from doing everything but he is always holding baby - what is wrong with him holding baby ?

you have over analysis of every facial expression , some people look at the floor and avoid eye contact

id put or post two different notes in different handwriting asking her to stop screaming at her kids and husband

maybe hand her a leaflet about post natal depression and a hearing test

I’m assuming you are joking about the notes?

Goditsmemargaret · 10/03/2026 20:34

The sneering posts are so predictable it's hilarious.

How dare you like your neighbours, enjoy your community, appreciate the developing friendships and enjoy feeling safe and peaceful in your environment? Especially given you've had the opposite experiences in your past?

MN would hate me and my street. I organise street parties and events and loads of the neighbours come. When we moved in people stopped by to welcome us and we loved it (first time to experience this) so we did the same when both sides changed.

One side is absolutely horrible. I feel your pain. I went through my own feelings of upset, disappointment, everything is changing now etc.

However these people ignore the invitations to any of the events and we just peacefully ignore each other. We don't even say hello on the pavement. They are vile horrible wankers.

Give yourself a timeframe on reporting the abuse if you're still suspicious but carry on enjoying your nice neighbours.

Throwntothewolves · 10/03/2026 20:51

You're very invested and judgemental based on only a few, admittedly poor snapshots of their lives.

While her behaviour is poor you know nothing of their situation.
Maybe they moved to the terraced house having left a large detached house after Andy gambled all their money away. That would explain her fury and his sheepishness.
Maybe he had an affair and they moved to start again, but she can't forgive him.
Maybe he doesn't work and she greatly resents him for it.
Maybe she is abusing him and isn't afraid to do so in public, which is actually unlikely. Many abusers are covert about it, how many men do you actually hear of abusing their partners in public?

Whatever is going on in their relationship it's not your business. That said, keep an eye out for anything involving the children and report to Social Services if you are concerned.

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 20:57

Throwntothewolves · 10/03/2026 20:51

You're very invested and judgemental based on only a few, admittedly poor snapshots of their lives.

While her behaviour is poor you know nothing of their situation.
Maybe they moved to the terraced house having left a large detached house after Andy gambled all their money away. That would explain her fury and his sheepishness.
Maybe he had an affair and they moved to start again, but she can't forgive him.
Maybe he doesn't work and she greatly resents him for it.
Maybe she is abusing him and isn't afraid to do so in public, which is actually unlikely. Many abusers are covert about it, how many men do you actually hear of abusing their partners in public?

Whatever is going on in their relationship it's not your business. That said, keep an eye out for anything involving the children and report to Social Services if you are concerned.

None of this is any excuse for her to be screaming in a house with a 4 and 1 year old. They are tiny bloody children!

And the sexes were reversed here…….just have a think how you’d view the situation.

This thread is honestly depressing and explaining what contributes to some people not speaking out about abuse. If their neighbours can even hear it and they don’t care, why would anyone else?

Society turns a blind eye and lets people down time and time again.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 21:07

Goditsmemargaret · 10/03/2026 20:34

The sneering posts are so predictable it's hilarious.

How dare you like your neighbours, enjoy your community, appreciate the developing friendships and enjoy feeling safe and peaceful in your environment? Especially given you've had the opposite experiences in your past?

MN would hate me and my street. I organise street parties and events and loads of the neighbours come. When we moved in people stopped by to welcome us and we loved it (first time to experience this) so we did the same when both sides changed.

One side is absolutely horrible. I feel your pain. I went through my own feelings of upset, disappointment, everything is changing now etc.

However these people ignore the invitations to any of the events and we just peacefully ignore each other. We don't even say hello on the pavement. They are vile horrible wankers.

Give yourself a timeframe on reporting the abuse if you're still suspicious but carry on enjoying your nice neighbours.

If you want to be besties with your neighbours then that’s fine. But your comments about the other neighbours show that you are rather sneery. I assume there’s a lot more to it as it would be batshit to dismiss people as vile horrible wankers just because they don’t want to socialise with you.

You sound far too invested in your neighbours (talking of upset and disappointment).

It’s okay to build a community but it’s also okay to want to be left to get on with your own life. The people that want to be a community are often quite unhinged about those who don’t.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 21:10

We all have to get on with colleagues even though we may not like them.

It is therefore not unreasonable to want to shut the front door on the world when you get home without being torn apart by the neighbourhood cult because you don’t want to come out and play.

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 21:19

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 21:10

We all have to get on with colleagues even though we may not like them.

It is therefore not unreasonable to want to shut the front door on the world when you get home without being torn apart by the neighbourhood cult because you don’t want to come out and play.

Ya, good story, but that’s not what’s happening here. You’d swear OP had said the neighbours have been descending on them like a scene from Shaun of the Dead.

JMSA · 10/03/2026 22:20

She sounds awful.

Throwntothewolves · 10/03/2026 22:30

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 20:57

None of this is any excuse for her to be screaming in a house with a 4 and 1 year old. They are tiny bloody children!

And the sexes were reversed here…….just have a think how you’d view the situation.

This thread is honestly depressing and explaining what contributes to some people not speaking out about abuse. If their neighbours can even hear it and they don’t care, why would anyone else?

Society turns a blind eye and lets people down time and time again.

I never said anything was an excuse for the way the neighbours are behaving in front of their kids, just that there may be more than meets the eye, and he may not be the innocent party OP thinks he is.
OP is judging based on minimal facts. Those facts are that the kids are witness to some fairly horrible behaviour by at least one parent, the sexes are irrelevant. OP and the other neighbours, although quite willing to keep watching them, are not prepared to do anything to try to help the poor kids. I'm with you on that
NCAgainAgainAgainAgain

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 22:42

Throwntothewolves · 10/03/2026 22:30

I never said anything was an excuse for the way the neighbours are behaving in front of their kids, just that there may be more than meets the eye, and he may not be the innocent party OP thinks he is.
OP is judging based on minimal facts. Those facts are that the kids are witness to some fairly horrible behaviour by at least one parent, the sexes are irrelevant. OP and the other neighbours, although quite willing to keep watching them, are not prepared to do anything to try to help the poor kids. I'm with you on that
NCAgainAgainAgainAgain

Seriously, just cut the crap…. ‘He may not be the innocent party OP thinks he is’. Honestly, vile, disgusting… I don’t even have words for how awful your viewpoint is. It’s no wonder men and women fail to report abuse, when the people who might hear them being abused day in and day out have attitudes like yours.

And OP literally came here to have a discussion, and get advice, on how to ‘do anything to try to help the poor kids’. But because she dared to voice upset in that same post that her lovely little neighbourhood of 8 homes now has a weird vibe, she’s been torn apart. Told she’s a nosey busybody, a curtain twitcher, can’t actually count the amount of times she’s been told she’s ’over invested’.

Honestly, a lot of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

If I heard anyone next door to me screaming on the regular with a little 4 year old and 1 year old baby in the house, I wouldn’t hesitate to report that, and would advise everyone else to. If I thought someone was being abused by their partner, right next door to me, I wouldn’t hesitate to try my best to intervene in the safest way I could. WHETHER THEY ARE A MAN OR WOMAN. I couldn’t possibly sleep sound otherwise.

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 22:47

How many of us have read terrible cases of partners being murdered, children being murdered, mothers or fathers killing their entire families… and people that knew them say, I never saw it coming 🤷🏻‍♀️ Or is it actually because, people did see it, and didn’t want to believe it, or get involved, or think it was that serious, or be willing to take proactive steps to try and help, intervene.

Honestly, have people learned nothing at all?

Bookaholicwithwine · 10/03/2026 22:48

Jesus . I take my dog for 2 walks day but I also let him out into the garden because sometimes he needs to go ! OP hasn’t said she don’t walk him and good dog owners let their dog out other than on walks !

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 22:59

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 21:19

Ya, good story, but that’s not what’s happening here. You’d swear OP had said the neighbours have been descending on them like a scene from Shaun of the Dead.

I was replying to another poster (Goditsmemargaret I think) but the quote didn’t work.So not talking about the OP situation.

Hope that helps. 😀

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 10/03/2026 23:00

NCAgainAgainAgainAgain · 10/03/2026 22:42

Seriously, just cut the crap…. ‘He may not be the innocent party OP thinks he is’. Honestly, vile, disgusting… I don’t even have words for how awful your viewpoint is. It’s no wonder men and women fail to report abuse, when the people who might hear them being abused day in and day out have attitudes like yours.

And OP literally came here to have a discussion, and get advice, on how to ‘do anything to try to help the poor kids’. But because she dared to voice upset in that same post that her lovely little neighbourhood of 8 homes now has a weird vibe, she’s been torn apart. Told she’s a nosey busybody, a curtain twitcher, can’t actually count the amount of times she’s been told she’s ’over invested’.

Honestly, a lot of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

If I heard anyone next door to me screaming on the regular with a little 4 year old and 1 year old baby in the house, I wouldn’t hesitate to report that, and would advise everyone else to. If I thought someone was being abused by their partner, right next door to me, I wouldn’t hesitate to try my best to intervene in the safest way I could. WHETHER THEY ARE A MAN OR WOMAN. I couldn’t possibly sleep sound otherwise.

And actually most of the post was about the fact she didn’t like the woman, any concern for the kids was only a small part