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Friend and weight issues

126 replies

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:01

NC due to nature of post.

My friend and I have known each other since nursery. She has a child who has just turned 8 in the last few weeks. He has a developmental delay, is non verbal, autistic and still in nappies. He is obese- he wears large mens clothing. At that, she offered my husband a jacket last week that her son had grown out of. He has been assessed by various healthcare professionals, has ongoing input from dietitian etc and has no underlying issues causing his weight issues. It is purely down to diet and exercise levels- which are obviously managed by friend. His weight impacts on his mobility, he is very slowed as a result and can no longer get in/out a bath even with her help. Despite input from professionals, she refuses to acknowledge that this is an issue and claims it’s puppy fat.

She is also obese. Her BMI is the 50’s, she has to use a mobility scooter to get out and about on holiday. Uses a walking stick day to day. She can’t keep up with her son now at all. She has been diagnosed with hypertension and type 2 diabetes in the last few months. She is still in her 30’s.

She has very little support- her mother died when she was in her teens. Her father has no contact with her. She has no contact with her child’s father. She does have her aunt who stays nearby but her aunt cares full time for her 86 year old mother who has dementia and cannot help much. Her aunt isn’t in good health, herself either and is in her late 60’s.

Her son is increasingly aggressive and difficult to manage. The school currently have two members of staff with him at all times. I have a large family and 2 autistic children. I had offered to babysit to let her go to the doctors over Christmas when she became unwell, it was horrendous and her son smashed up one of my kitchen chairs. I genuinely don’t think I could safely look after him while I have my own baby there and my toddlers, before even factoring in my own autistic children. She has asked me to babysit this weekend to let her go to a birthday meal for a friend but I’ve had to say no and she seems upset. I do realise that day to day it must be so difficult for my friend to manage though. Social work have offered her respite care but she said she would just feel guilty using it.

We were talking today and she was upset because she had spoken to her GP earlier, for a review of her medication. She has been referred for weight management but has refused to engage. Her GP has said to her that she needs to consider the fact her son has complex needs, she doesn’t have much support and that she needs to look after herself as he needs her. She has took great offence to this and thinks she is being fatshamed. I haven’t replied to her text yet because I agree with the GP. While I understand her circumstances will affect her mood, which affects her motivation to lose weight- I do think she needs to do more to get herself well for her son’s sake. But I don’t know how to word it without upsetting her. I don’t want to lose her friendship as she is such a nice person but I do think both her weight and her little boy’s weight is getting to a point where something needs to change or the consequences will be dire. Am I just being a d*ck though ?

OP posts:
AnneLovesGilbert · 09/03/2026 14:05

I wouldn’t say anything. If she won’t listen to her doctor she won’t listen to you. It sounds like an awful and very worrying situation but there’s nothing you can do.

likelysuspect · 09/03/2026 14:05

The consequences will be dire you're right

But theres nothing you can do, she is entrenched and wont come out of it. The food is about loss I would suggest given what you say and she isnt even open to understanding that she is putting herself at risk and her child

If it were me I would find it hard to remain involved.

What do you get out of the relationship by the way. And I dont mean this to sound how its going to but - are you friends with her because it makes you feel like you're some sort of saviour?

You wont be, you're just wasting your time.

DameOfThrones · 09/03/2026 14:05

"Is that so?"

"Did the GP say that?"

Or other non committal words to this effect is how I would reply.

She's obviously struggling with life as it sounds hell, so I'd say no more than that about it.

LindorDoubleChoc · 09/03/2026 14:07

How can she have a BMI of 50+ and not know she is very overweight?

Swiftie1878 · 09/03/2026 14:08

ChatGPT suggests sending this message:

I’m really sorry that conversation with the GP upset you. I can completely understand why it would feel hurtful if it came across as judgemental. You deal with so much day to day and I honestly think you’re incredibly strong for everything you manage on your own.

I don’t think your GP was trying to shame you though – it sounded to me like they were worried about you and how much you have on your shoulders. You’re the centre of your son’s world and people just want to make sure you stay as well as possible for both of you.

I hope you know anything I say comes from a place of caring about you. I can see how exhausting things are sometimes and I really wish you had more support. If the weight management referral or any extra help could make things even a tiny bit easier for you, it might be worth considering – not because there’s anything wrong with you, but because you deserve support too.

I’m always here to listen if you need to vent. You don’t have to deal with everything on your own.

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:08

likelysuspect · 09/03/2026 14:05

The consequences will be dire you're right

But theres nothing you can do, she is entrenched and wont come out of it. The food is about loss I would suggest given what you say and she isnt even open to understanding that she is putting herself at risk and her child

If it were me I would find it hard to remain involved.

What do you get out of the relationship by the way. And I dont mean this to sound how its going to but - are you friends with her because it makes you feel like you're some sort of saviour?

You wont be, you're just wasting your time.

We have been friends since childhood and talk most days. We do have lots of shared interests and she is a nice person- but this is something that’s nagging away at me as I hate seeing them both so unhealthy. But I think like yourself and previous comment have said, she likely won’t listen to me and I don’t want to drive her away and have her isolate herself more.

OP posts:
DameOfThrones · 09/03/2026 14:09

Swiftie1878 · 09/03/2026 14:08

ChatGPT suggests sending this message:

I’m really sorry that conversation with the GP upset you. I can completely understand why it would feel hurtful if it came across as judgemental. You deal with so much day to day and I honestly think you’re incredibly strong for everything you manage on your own.

I don’t think your GP was trying to shame you though – it sounded to me like they were worried about you and how much you have on your shoulders. You’re the centre of your son’s world and people just want to make sure you stay as well as possible for both of you.

I hope you know anything I say comes from a place of caring about you. I can see how exhausting things are sometimes and I really wish you had more support. If the weight management referral or any extra help could make things even a tiny bit easier for you, it might be worth considering – not because there’s anything wrong with you, but because you deserve support too.

I’m always here to listen if you need to vent. You don’t have to deal with everything on your own.

Rather than consult a robot, do you have any suggestions for the OP?

Catisheavyonmylap · 09/03/2026 14:09

Has the GP offered wli’s? Surely with that bmi, she is exactly the type of patient they should be helping or is she against these?

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:11

LindorDoubleChoc · 09/03/2026 14:07

How can she have a BMI of 50+ and not know she is very overweight?

Her exact words were “the BMI calculator is a load of sh*t”.
I think she knows she is heavy, but does need feel it’s at a point where she needs her doctor to speak to her about it. She attributes her physical concerns to fibromyalgia.

OP posts:
Swiftie1878 · 09/03/2026 14:11

DameOfThrones · 09/03/2026 14:09

Rather than consult a robot, do you have any suggestions for the OP?

No, I think it’s really, really tricky!
ChatGPT may have just about nailed it though, I think. Don’t focus on the weight. Focus on support and care.

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:11

Catisheavyonmylap · 09/03/2026 14:09

Has the GP offered wli’s? Surely with that bmi, she is exactly the type of patient they should be helping or is she against these?

It’s not available on our health board yet but I imagine she will be offered when it is.

OP posts:
Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:12

Swiftie1878 · 09/03/2026 14:11

No, I think it’s really, really tricky!
ChatGPT may have just about nailed it though, I think. Don’t focus on the weight. Focus on support and care.

Thank you

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Trusttheawesomeness · 09/03/2026 14:13

What hasn’t her son been removed? Severely underweight and malnourished children are removed from their neglectful parents. Why has she been allowed to stuff this boy full of shit and set him up for a lifetime of serious health issues?

The “fat shamed” buzzword is just total bullshit and I’d be giving her some serious home truths. Terrible mother.

(I’m about 3 stone overweight so I’m not some tiny mumsnetter just eating salads, but I’m also not an idiot and I know I’m overweight due to my own faults and I haven’t made my kids fat)

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:13

AnneLovesGilbert · 09/03/2026 14:05

I wouldn’t say anything. If she won’t listen to her doctor she won’t listen to you. It sounds like an awful and very worrying situation but there’s nothing you can do.

I’m not convinced she will listen to me either and I really don’t want to make her think I’m being cruel.

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Frequency · 09/03/2026 14:13

Could you decide you need to lose a few lbs/get fitter and ask her to join you on your journey for support?

Suggest things like short swimming sessions, chair aerobics, or short, gentle walks if she can manage them, and swap healthy meal ideas?

Trusttheawesomeness · 09/03/2026 14:15

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:13

I’m not convinced she will listen to me either and I really don’t want to make her think I’m being cruel.

She is abusing her child. Dont mince words here. What she is doing is busy. If that child was starving, everyone would say it was abuse. No one wants to say it when the kid has been fed into a shitty life of health issues ahead of him. But that’s what it is; abuse and neglect.

Why would you care if she thinks you’re being cruel?

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:16

Trusttheawesomeness · 09/03/2026 14:13

What hasn’t her son been removed? Severely underweight and malnourished children are removed from their neglectful parents. Why has she been allowed to stuff this boy full of shit and set him up for a lifetime of serious health issues?

The “fat shamed” buzzword is just total bullshit and I’d be giving her some serious home truths. Terrible mother.

(I’m about 3 stone overweight so I’m not some tiny mumsnetter just eating salads, but I’m also not an idiot and I know I’m overweight due to my own faults and I haven’t made my kids fat)

She does have social work involvement- which was in place prior to his weight getting so bad. She was previously in a DV situation and I know SW helped with the process of school placement etc for her son. But I don’t think they have addressed his weight. If they have mentioned it, she hasn’t said anything to me anyway. I know it’s been discussed with dietician, school, paediatrician etc though.

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HolyRigatone · 09/03/2026 14:16

I sympathise with her situation, it sounds very difficult but the bottom line is that people need to help themselves. If she doesn’t accept her being morbidly obese is a problem and views even the mildest attempt to raise this by a medical professional as “fatshaming” then I don’t see what you can say.

For the record, you seem like a lovely, considerate person and friend.

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:16

Frequency · 09/03/2026 14:13

Could you decide you need to lose a few lbs/get fitter and ask her to join you on your journey for support?

Suggest things like short swimming sessions, chair aerobics, or short, gentle walks if she can manage them, and swap healthy meal ideas?

I could do- I’m post partum and could shed some lbs of baby weight so this might be an option.

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likelysuspect · 09/03/2026 14:18

Frequency · 09/03/2026 14:13

Could you decide you need to lose a few lbs/get fitter and ask her to join you on your journey for support?

Suggest things like short swimming sessions, chair aerobics, or short, gentle walks if she can manage them, and swap healthy meal ideas?

With respect this is pie in the sky with someome like OP's friend

Do you think she hasnt had a plethora of information and advice from various health care professionals and SWs over the years?

Rosesarere · 09/03/2026 14:28

I actually think the chat got response is very good if you do want her to try and help herself. If you would rather not get involved as it sounds like she won’t take kindly to you agreeing with the gp I think it’s ok to just say sorry you felt offended by what the doctor says

Paganpentacle · 09/03/2026 14:29

Catisheavyonmylap · 09/03/2026 14:09

Has the GP offered wli’s? Surely with that bmi, she is exactly the type of patient they should be helping or is she against these?

It very much depends whether she has x4 other listed co-morbidities... it doesnt just go on weight / BMI alone ( at this point in time anyway)

Frequency · 09/03/2026 14:29

likelysuspect · 09/03/2026 14:18

With respect this is pie in the sky with someome like OP's friend

Do you think she hasnt had a plethora of information and advice from various health care professionals and SWs over the years?

As someone who has struggled with weight issues (in both directions), I disagree. You can have all the information in the world, but the actual changes you need to make can still feel overwhelming and pointless.

Having someone to support you can make all of the difference. If OP's friend agrees under the guise of supporting her friend, the small changes she notices might be enough to spur her on. Of course, it might not, but nothing else has worked up to now, has it?

It's also worth bearing in mind that she might be right about her health. I went to the GP with a knee injury and was prescribed Orlistat despite my history of ED. The Orlistat didn't do anything at all to help with the bakers cyst I was later diagnosed with, but it did wreck my mental health and trigger a cycle of extreme restriction.

Obesity causes health issues, yes, but obese people can also have illnesses and injuries not related to their weight, and this is often overlooked by health professionals.

I would make sympathetic noises, but also mention it's a shame she doesn't want to lose weight because you do want and you'd love a diet/fitness buddy to support you.

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