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Friend and weight issues

126 replies

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 14:01

NC due to nature of post.

My friend and I have known each other since nursery. She has a child who has just turned 8 in the last few weeks. He has a developmental delay, is non verbal, autistic and still in nappies. He is obese- he wears large mens clothing. At that, she offered my husband a jacket last week that her son had grown out of. He has been assessed by various healthcare professionals, has ongoing input from dietitian etc and has no underlying issues causing his weight issues. It is purely down to diet and exercise levels- which are obviously managed by friend. His weight impacts on his mobility, he is very slowed as a result and can no longer get in/out a bath even with her help. Despite input from professionals, she refuses to acknowledge that this is an issue and claims it’s puppy fat.

She is also obese. Her BMI is the 50’s, she has to use a mobility scooter to get out and about on holiday. Uses a walking stick day to day. She can’t keep up with her son now at all. She has been diagnosed with hypertension and type 2 diabetes in the last few months. She is still in her 30’s.

She has very little support- her mother died when she was in her teens. Her father has no contact with her. She has no contact with her child’s father. She does have her aunt who stays nearby but her aunt cares full time for her 86 year old mother who has dementia and cannot help much. Her aunt isn’t in good health, herself either and is in her late 60’s.

Her son is increasingly aggressive and difficult to manage. The school currently have two members of staff with him at all times. I have a large family and 2 autistic children. I had offered to babysit to let her go to the doctors over Christmas when she became unwell, it was horrendous and her son smashed up one of my kitchen chairs. I genuinely don’t think I could safely look after him while I have my own baby there and my toddlers, before even factoring in my own autistic children. She has asked me to babysit this weekend to let her go to a birthday meal for a friend but I’ve had to say no and she seems upset. I do realise that day to day it must be so difficult for my friend to manage though. Social work have offered her respite care but she said she would just feel guilty using it.

We were talking today and she was upset because she had spoken to her GP earlier, for a review of her medication. She has been referred for weight management but has refused to engage. Her GP has said to her that she needs to consider the fact her son has complex needs, she doesn’t have much support and that she needs to look after herself as he needs her. She has took great offence to this and thinks she is being fatshamed. I haven’t replied to her text yet because I agree with the GP. While I understand her circumstances will affect her mood, which affects her motivation to lose weight- I do think she needs to do more to get herself well for her son’s sake. But I don’t know how to word it without upsetting her. I don’t want to lose her friendship as she is such a nice person but I do think both her weight and her little boy’s weight is getting to a point where something needs to change or the consequences will be dire. Am I just being a d*ck though ?

OP posts:
wishingonastar101 · 09/03/2026 14:41

This is child abuse. If he was underfed this would reported but she is feeding him into an early grave.

Isittimeformynapyet · 09/03/2026 14:54

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She MIGHT get them on the NHS.

SpanThatWorld · 09/03/2026 15:03

Trusttheawesomeness · 09/03/2026 14:13

What hasn’t her son been removed? Severely underweight and malnourished children are removed from their neglectful parents. Why has she been allowed to stuff this boy full of shit and set him up for a lifetime of serious health issues?

The “fat shamed” buzzword is just total bullshit and I’d be giving her some serious home truths. Terrible mother.

(I’m about 3 stone overweight so I’m not some tiny mumsnetter just eating salads, but I’m also not an idiot and I know I’m overweight due to my own faults and I haven’t made my kids fat)

Probably because there are very few placements available for children with autism and extreme challenging behaviour.

WhatNoRaisins · 09/03/2026 15:06

Her life sounds hard and I'm wondering if comfort eating has become a crutch that she's not ready to give up right now. Agree with PP, if she won't listen to the GP she's not going to listen to you. I'd just support her as best you can even if you don't agree with her.

5128gap · 09/03/2026 15:28

There is nothing to be gained here by sharing your thoughts. Your friend is getting medical advice, her son is in the system, so its not as though there's an issue no one is aware of but you.
I think the best thing you can do for your friend is keep these issues out of your friendship and continue with her normally. You are probably being of great value just being there as a friend. You don't need to be social worker or clinician as well.
When she takes offence at advice, keep it neutral, no need to agree with her or chime in that they have a point. You can empathise neutrally with things like "that must have been hard to hear".
Set your own boundaries and manage her expectations about the practical help you can offer. Be clear you haven't got the ability to care for her son and keep everyone safe.

Franpie · 09/03/2026 15:58

Deep down, she knows what her GP is saying is true. Which is why she is so upset.

But there is nothing you can do to help. You just need to wait for her to be ready to tackle her issues and carry on being a friend to her in the meantime.

AgnesMcDoo · 09/03/2026 16:03

How about trying an enthusiastic response along the lines of she's really lucky cause this means that she will get mounjaro for free on the NHS and that you are jealous.

mustwashmycurtains · 09/03/2026 16:08

likelysuspect · 09/03/2026 14:18

With respect this is pie in the sky with someome like OP's friend

Do you think she hasnt had a plethora of information and advice from various health care professionals and SWs over the years?

Information from doctors doesn’t mean much. A friend wanting to get help WITH you means a lot. I’ve been a fat friend and I would have liked that offer.

likelysuspect · 09/03/2026 16:09

SpanThatWorld · 09/03/2026 15:03

Probably because there are very few placements available for children with autism and extreme challenging behaviour.

Prior to that though is the legal threshold for separation must be deemed by the Judge to be met. It often isnt with neglected children let alone someone who is overfeeding but essentially trying to care for their child with services support.

Boomer55 · 09/03/2026 16:09

DameOfThrones · 09/03/2026 14:09

Rather than consult a robot, do you have any suggestions for the OP?

This. Do friends really have to ask to robots to communicate? 🤷‍♀️

Gowlett · 09/03/2026 16:10

It’s sad. My ex-boss was morbidly obese. As was her son. The dad died when he was small, and it was a coping mechanism for her. Passing her food problems onto her son pretty much ruined his life, health. He couldn’t walk by age 21, was using a mobility scooter, and they got taxis everywhere. She could barely step, nevermind walk. They did everything together.

UncannyFanny · 09/03/2026 16:14

LindorDoubleChoc · 09/03/2026 14:07

How can she have a BMI of 50+ and not know she is very overweight?

Denial?

Imdonewithsergio · 09/03/2026 16:32

Thanks everyone for your responses. It’s such a tricky one as I know my situation and hers are so different and that she does have a very complex situation with her little boy. I genuinely just want them both happy and well. Thanks for all your suggestions.

OP posts:
Sensiblesal · 09/03/2026 16:33

Swiftie1878 · 09/03/2026 14:08

ChatGPT suggests sending this message:

I’m really sorry that conversation with the GP upset you. I can completely understand why it would feel hurtful if it came across as judgemental. You deal with so much day to day and I honestly think you’re incredibly strong for everything you manage on your own.

I don’t think your GP was trying to shame you though – it sounded to me like they were worried about you and how much you have on your shoulders. You’re the centre of your son’s world and people just want to make sure you stay as well as possible for both of you.

I hope you know anything I say comes from a place of caring about you. I can see how exhausting things are sometimes and I really wish you had more support. If the weight management referral or any extra help could make things even a tiny bit easier for you, it might be worth considering – not because there’s anything wrong with you, but because you deserve support too.

I’m always here to listen if you need to vent. You don’t have to deal with everything on your own.

I suggest conpletely ignoring this advice. You don’t need to send an impersonal chat gpt message to a friend.

OP, I think you need to tread carefully here. You need to be supportive but if you are really that good friends, having an actual conversation & heart to heart might help more.

getting that right without sounding judgemental is really hard.

I think leaving it & not saying anything kind of makes you not a very caring friend. Sometimes you need someone to just talk about it out loud. Am sure she does want to lose weight just doesn’t want to face it

Swiftie1878 · 09/03/2026 16:36

Sensiblesal · 09/03/2026 16:33

I suggest conpletely ignoring this advice. You don’t need to send an impersonal chat gpt message to a friend.

OP, I think you need to tread carefully here. You need to be supportive but if you are really that good friends, having an actual conversation & heart to heart might help more.

getting that right without sounding judgemental is really hard.

I think leaving it & not saying anything kind of makes you not a very caring friend. Sometimes you need someone to just talk about it out loud. Am sure she does want to lose weight just doesn’t want to face it

Edited

I thought it was quite kind and personal, actually!

gmgnts · 09/03/2026 16:50

I think the Chat GPT message is really good. I also think some people see the fact that it's AI and have a knee-jerk reaction that it can't be possibly any good. In what way is the message itself 'impersonal'? It provides an excellent basis for starting a conversation with OP's friend. I don't think this will end well, however. The friend sounds way beyond doing a bit of armchair yoga to lose weight, with a BMI of 50 plus, and her poor child must be suffering immensely. What a terrible story, really.

Crunchymum · 09/03/2026 16:55

Paganpentacle · 09/03/2026 14:29

It very much depends whether she has x4 other listed co-morbidities... it doesnt just go on weight / BMI alone ( at this point in time anyway)

OP said she has been diagnosed with hypertension and type 2 diabetes.

Not sure what exact conditions people need to have to be legible for WLI on the NHS.

likelysuspect · 09/03/2026 16:56

mustwashmycurtains · 09/03/2026 16:08

Information from doctors doesn’t mean much. A friend wanting to get help WITH you means a lot. I’ve been a fat friend and I would have liked that offer.

Horses for courses. My BMI was in the late 40s and I was 20 stone. I have never not been the fat friend until recently. I would have hated it that someone I felt safe with would have suggested that.

And until you're ready to change and really knock it on the head, you cant move away from it, hence her denial.

And I wasnt suggesting its only the GP or 'professionals' who have mentioned, weight loss information is simply everywhere, no one is blind to it even if they present as if they are.

Crunchymum · 09/03/2026 16:57

FWIW the Chatgpt message is fine but reads like AI from a mile away.

If I received that from someone I'd know in an instant it was not written by an actual human and that would get my back up from the get go.

WhatNoRaisins · 09/03/2026 16:58

Most people can recognise a chatGPT message so I don't think it would go down well even if the sentiment was there.

likelysuspect · 09/03/2026 17:00

Crunchymum · 09/03/2026 16:55

OP said she has been diagnosed with hypertension and type 2 diabetes.

Not sure what exact conditions people need to have to be legible for WLI on the NHS.

I mean the hoops you have to jump through means barely anyone gets it. In fact in my experience no one gets it (Im sure there is the odd one or two), also the NHS is wedded to Orlistat, awful stuff.

I was referred for surgery but went private in the end, I would still be waiting by now if I was put on the list

As someone said above, she is beyond the stage of kind words and armchair yoga or a bit of walking. Drastic action is needed but she doesnt want that.

I get people are trying to be kind to OP but really all of this is almost signing OP up to being somes sort of of 'support human' and it wont work because the friend doesn want help (at the moment)

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 09/03/2026 17:05

I think as a good friend you should be brutally honest with her and tell her if she carries on the way she’s going she’s going to end up dead in the next decade or so.
i wish i had, I had a friend who was morbidly obese she dropped down dead from a heart attack at the age of 31 leaving her 5 year old son with nobody.

fivepastmidnight · 09/03/2026 17:09

As well as the fibromyalgia, obesity and her son's autism I would hazard there is depression an d anxiety thrown in there as well all of which will make it difficult to see a way forward.
I imagine she's in denial ,She knows it is not puppy fat and that he wasn;t fat shaming her but the thought of all the things that need to be addressed is probably too overwhelming to face .

I would really encourage her to take up the respite care. Having just a little bit of time to herself even just to go for a small walk might be the start of her making changes. She's only in her 30s and has got no life. I imagine food seems one of her only sources of pleasure . I'm not sure what if anything you can do . it will depend how stretched services are where you are but she runs the risk of having her child removed. I know autism is a spectrum but as you have autistic children yourself ,could you present it in a way to say cutting out certain foods has really helped one of your children .

Seelybe · 09/03/2026 17:11

@Imdonewithsergio you are clearly a very kind and tolerant person.
I would struggle with someone who, as a parent of a child with complex needs, refuses to recognise the implications of their health related choices and the impact on their caring responsibilities.
And that they are then perpetuating those choices on their own child.
Yes, her life is hard but her choices make it harder.
She's lucky to have such a compassionate friend.

Bristolandlazy · 09/03/2026 17:11

My BMI is similar, I am aware every minute of the day. She knows really, you can't excuse the pains in your body and that you can't run fast etc. I wouldn't want a friend to comment on it. Other than agreeing with the doctor. Ultimately it needs to come from her. When my mum told me she was worried about my health that kicked home. If she went on the weight management waiting list of could take years, it has for me and you don't have to do anything when they engage with you. They ultimately prescribe jabs and/or gastric surgery. They're super empathetic, I spoke to the surgeon the other day and he said obesity is a disease. I disagree but appreciated he didn't give me a lecture. She needs to think about what would happen to her son if something happened to her. That motivates me. Good luck. You sound like a great friend and it must be difficult. Sounds like she's down a over eating hole. I wonder if she really can't see it or if she's subconsciously keeping her son that way to stay close to him, so he's dependent on her etc, if so that's abusive. Hard to have empathy for someone with obese children and no medical reason.