Religion in the workplace

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For the last month we have been sent messages email, background screens and management briefings for a particular religion.

the following messages to

”showing visible support,
encouraging meaningful conversations, and deepening our understanding of the experiences of those of observences”

as well as being told to be considered with meetings etc and thoughtful and supportive!!!

Well no, exactly, you know I am correct and your argument was silly.

Egypt.

So do I. But being asked to understand others' religious beliefs isn't that.

I’m happy to get to know all colleagues I work with, and I’m always respectful to everyone.

I do not, however, want to know anything about their religion. I am not a religious person. I actually believe that religion causes nothing but hate and conflict across the world (just look at this thread!)

I would be hugely irritated if my workplace forced this type of thing on me. I would not like to be told to take an interest in something I simply don’t believe in.

This 100%!

That’s really not how this works I’m afraid. You’re not a mind reader and your arguments just illustrate your lack of humanity and tolerance.

And there it is - you don’t like Islam. It’s not about religion ‘bring forced on you’, it’s about you not liking this particular religion. Haven’t you got any flags to shag?

What do you find performative?

Ramadan is just one of the religious events that employers recognise.

Most Muslims just want to go about their day quietly and without fuss.

But some things may be relevant for colleagues to know. It’s surprising how many people don’t know that Muslims aren’t even allowed to drink water whilst fasting for example.

Even so, if you unknowingly offered a Muslim a drink whilst they are fasting, they won’t be offended, they will just politely decline. But many people would want to be understanding and know these things so they don’t make any faux pas.

Do you refuse to engage with Christmas then?

Happy Holi !!! I quite like extra chat about festivals, feast days and general cultural stuff. I work with global teams and the theme is : the more the merrier

https://adfinternational.org/commentary/egypt-christians-religious-freedom

Doesn't sound like it.

Would you not want to know if you are a manager for example, and someone in your team needed some adjustments during Ramadan?

My Muslim colleagues were very tolerant folks.

You do understand that there's a big difference between being Muslim and being an extreme Islamist, right?

Gosh you are obsessed with Christmas .like people get a choice whether or not to engage with Christmas or not. Actually the whole thing with Xmas should be done away with as well truthfully .

values of kindness, tolerance and hospitality

Oh the irony. Why do you think Muslims are not deserving of this?

People (not all) can be intolerant and corrupt, and religion (A front for the patriarchy) is often the mask they hide behind. That has been as true of Catholics and Protestants as it has been of any other faith. If there is something to be angry about, it is the patriarchy that transcends most religions and uses them as a tool for power.

ADF who don’t recognise gay people, don’t believe women have a right to an abortion and have spent millions in dark money. Massive right-wing extremists. Oh hang on… your posts make sense now!

Yeah, they’re great people. Huge thumbs up!

Honestly… evil fuckery.

Are you being forced to fast for Ramadan or something? Because unless that’s the case you also get a choice, don’t be ridiculous.

I actually believe that religion causes nothing but hate and conflict across the world

You'd be wrong. I'm an atheist who works with a charity that supports a demographic that is constantly judged as undeserving. My role is to find local help for our service users all around the country. And the organisations who are most likely to step in and help with warmth, generosity and without judgement, are the faith based/church based organisations.

I sometimes wish I was religious, because I come across many amazing people,faith groups and organisations who quietly and without fanfare, step up to help people who most people would be happy to leave to their fate. I admire them hugely.

yes please. also darts, cricket and snooker.

It's only "really odd" if you're being deliberately obtuse.

Ramadan is a month of fasting. The fasting periods in the other religions are each for one day. The impact of the Ramadan fast in the workplace will be much greater.

You sound deranged, and shockingly naive about how women and homosexuals fare in Islamic countries.

I am socially conservative. Which ironically means I'd probably be a lot more comfortable than you would if the UK bent more in Islams favour. Which is quite amusing.

There's plenty of intolerance in Christianity. The issue of same-sex relationships has been causing chaos in the Anglican communion for years. Trad wives stay at home and look to men as the head of household and provider. Sex is for marriage between a man and a woman.

Intolerance is bound into all faiths. Difficult though it may be to believers, there would be no faith without a greater or lesser measure of intolerance eg Christian: 'Jesus is the son of God.' Infidel (good intolerant word): 'No he's not.' Christian: 'Oh, OK then, he's not.'

No I’m not but I’m not going around trying aggressively to get people to admit that they engage with Christmas in some way the way you are . Like I saw if emails going around about advent or Christmas mass or Ash Wednesday or something i would be just as bothered . I just think religion should be separate from work . Yet you just jump down my neck and assume that I’ve something against Muslims when that is not the case at all here

Op would have conniptions if she worked where I worked.

We’ve recently had emails about celebrations and food, including donuts for Hannukah, a dragon dance and food for Chinese Year celebrations, and food for the first Day of Ramadan.

All this on top of a Christmas choir and party and Shrove Tuesday of course, although I suspect these two things don’t bother OP.