Lucy Letby case expert witness was under fitness to practise investigation

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Wow! Pot, kettle, black? Need a new investigation?
Lucy Letby case expert witness was under fitness to practise investigation during trial | Lucy Letby | The Guardian

Just came on to start a thread about this, so thank you !!

Hopefully this will help get a proper investigation going into how this whole case was conducted.

There are also allegations against other experts in the case, and the fact that another judge wrote to Goss about Evans expressing concerns about his practise as an "expert witness" should be taken more seriously.

And he gave up his registration before the investigation was complete.
Not something you'd do if no case to answer.

Insane. People are just evil. Always.

I knew more would come out like this so I’m not surprised at all.

Not surprised. People blindly trust experts. After seeing a so-called medical expert more in the witness box myself, I’m more sceptical.

Comes as zero surprise.

After everything that's happened so far since reporting restrictions were lifted, I just expect this sort of revelation on a regular basis.

Is there anyone trustworthy involved in the prosecution?

Colour me surprised.

There has got to be a review into the whole case and soon.

It is utterly shocking. I already thought there was, at the very least, reasonable doubt over the verdict in this case. Dr Lee et al's report; the actions of the hospital in its downgrade in terms of the babies they were allowed to care for; probable perjury by a doctor involved; and now the CPS's determination to hide the real doubts over Hindmarsh.
Even if her conviction is overturned and she is exonerated, there's no psychological recovery from this. Where could she live? What could she do? It's just awful. I write as the mother of a premature baby boy who died, aged 20 days, in a London hospital.
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It doesn't look good. In general there does seem to be an issue with how to decide who is a worth "expert witness" and who isn't. It's hard for the police as the fact they need them in specialised cases like this means it's hard for them to know who to trust.

Well well well.

But this is a structural problem.

The Guardian is pro-Letby and were responsible for the LIE about the post it notes being on the advice of a therapist which is now repeated as fact. Don't believe everything you read.

I’m so sorry about your baby boy ❤️

I absolutely agree that it would be almost impossible for her to live a free life after this. The psychological damage but also how she’d likely always be hounded.

Which bit of this don’t you believe?

Such a strange case. I believe there is a high possibility she is innocent.

However, her note: "I killed them because I am not good enough to care for them" sits in my mind and it's confusing to make sense of.

Was it just a bad thought in her mind she wrote down when she was in a bad state of mind probably having a nervous breakdown over what was happening to her ?

Did she just write down a bad intrusive thought under pressure ?

It's very hard to make sense of

Yes, this would have been uncovered in the first two appeals wouldnt it? If it was significant or are the timings wrong

I believe the insulin evidence as it stands so to me not really ground breaking or changes anything

agree the guardian are not impartial

It would be helpful if those criticising the Guardian could tell us what they object to in this specific article.

Would you stop spreading lies?

They can't.

Even if it wasnt written on the advice of a therapist it sounds like something a very distressed (but innocent) nurse might write.

Feeling guilty about not being a good enough nurse or carer or spotting signs fast enough.

I recall a past unexpected family bereavement, lots of people gutted.

A lot of people were feeling guilty and thinking IF we had done X, things would have been different, the person was let down, we somehow betrayed them.

If we had just done this, or seen this small medical sign...

We all felt it.

It was totally illogical and irrational given the circumstances.

None of us were medical professionals or was caring for the person at the time. Or even physically present

But it was a way of processing and trying to control extreme grief and shock.

This whole case stinks like a rotten kipper.

It's honestly impressive, pretty much every piece of 'evidence' or aspect of the police investigation has been shown to be bollocks.

This will definitely be used as a "what NOT to do" case study in future.

She said, I killed them on purpose because I'm not good enough to care for them- maybe she was just angry and writing down what she was being accused of

It appears Himdmarsh reported colleagues who were giving "gender-affirmation hormones" to children under the age of 16 and without an assessment.

He was against this. Nothing to do with the insulin. That still stands. It's why BM didn't push it.
Think I like Hindmarsh even more.

This is not a lie. Letby didn't even say this herself.

https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/tribunal-of-dr-helen-webberley