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'Being Gordon Ramsay' featuring dead pig!

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paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:10

Ffs! I'm just watching this Netflix show about Gordon Ramsay and his opening of a new restaurant with amazing views in the city. I'm not interested in him particularly, but thought I might go to this 'Lucky Cat' just for the views over London, if and whenever it opens.

BUT - then there is a scene where he is consulting with his head chef about the menu and there is a whole dead baby suckling pig on a plate. They are talking about making this a restaurant feature, requiring two chefs who carve it at your table.

AIBU to think this is obscene? Yes, I'm vegetarian, but I think even most meat eaters would balk at this?

If I were in his restaurant and that was going at the the next table, I would leave. Wtf is wrong with humans?

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DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 21:13

Tableforjoan · 27/02/2026 20:27

But we celebrate a humans life at death with funerals.

Yes we don’t eat the humans but it’s to celebrate life. We celebrate what the human did. We celebrate what the animal gives us.

there is absolutely no connection there !
This is a celebration of the intent to eat the animal
A celebration of how it’s cooked

Anyone ordering this and Ramsays display has Nothing to do with celebrating its life fgs

JustSawJohnny · 27/02/2026 21:13

fepsfrost81 · 27/02/2026 21:08

Sounds like a horror movie plot. Poor sage ☹️

Edited

You say that but surely it's better for kids to understand where their food comes from and for them to develop some kind of acknowledgement of the processes of getting meat and respect for the animals we eat?

It's way too easy to buy a vacuum-packed slab of flesh without any thought of the life that has been sacrificed for your dinner.

That is way more horrifying to me.

WearyAuldWumman · 27/02/2026 21:14

Ilovecrispytofu · 27/02/2026 19:25

No but there is something pretty repellant about breeding animals only to kill them while still new born. Not to mention distressing for the mother pig. By breeding animals I think we are responsible for giving them some kind of quality of life and this includes a decent longevity.

I can only speak for my family's village in Eastern Europe, but I think that the logic is that the sow has had x number of piglets and - from a food production point of view - it makes sense for her to be feeding and therefore fattening up x-1.

Once they get to a certain stage, some of the piglets are often sold on to be fattened up even further. It's quite common for a family to buy a couple of piglets, fatten them up for several months and then have them slaughtered for Christmas with some of the meat being eaten fresh, some of it salted and some of it turned into sausages.

imakomododragon · 27/02/2026 21:14

I’m with you on this,OP.

mondaytosunday · 27/02/2026 21:15

Uh no, have you never been to a hog roast or near a butchers? It’s not offensive. Would you be offended if you saw someone pluck a chicken? Fry a whole fish?

LamonicBibber1 · 27/02/2026 21:17

Haven't rtft, but a whole suckling pig is extremely normal in Asia. And delicious! You cannot eat any form of meat and then get your knickers in a twist about this. Also, is the restaurant not Asian themed, so it totally works? (Going by the name of Lucky Cat here, I don't actually know anything about it).

So... Yeah. Learn about other cultures before saying such nonsense. I would 100% order this.

horseplay12 · 27/02/2026 21:21

It wouldn’t bother me at all - I know where my food comes from, and certainly would prefer to eat from a whole pig than some obscure reconstituted rubbish!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 27/02/2026 21:22

Veganpower · 27/02/2026 19:41

Eating animals is depraved. I know it is socially acceptable but lots of cruel unnecessary things were once accepted.

We are not apex predators so I have never understood the use of 'carnivore' for those who bravely visit the local supermarket to purchase chopped up body parts of a poor animal chilled and packed in a fridge, when the term necrovore is more accurate.

There are also compelling environmental reasons for a plant based diet.

Humans can be argued reasonably to be apex predators. Intelligence, communication, language, training other species for mutual benefit, the development of tools (whether from watching birds use them to get grubs, other apes or because they thought of it themselves), stamina, dexterity - all qualities that mean humans as a group have little in the way of predators in their environment - and have the ability to shape that environment and harvest species that also feature in high trophic levels.

A single human might not stand much of a chance against a pride of lions or in a pool with a psychologically damaged Orca, but as a species with all of their abilities, they are absolutely at the top.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 21:23

ScrambledEggs12 · 27/02/2026 21:11

I love animals, especially sheep. If we didn't eat sheep then we wouldn't get to see the sheep in the fields.....

So you’re eating sheep because YOU want to see them in the fields ?!
wow
all that pain and suffering for a view

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 21:25

Catlover77 · 27/02/2026 21:13

The animal absolutely did not give anything. Its life was taken away

Agree
some people do like to tie it up in bows to make them feel better

SpaceRaccoon · 27/02/2026 21:28

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

It'd not slaughtered a birth. It's at around 2 months.

A lot of cultures eat the head. It's called skop in South Africa. Bbqd sheep head.

Glitchymn1 · 27/02/2026 21:30

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:23

I am vegetarian but I'm not going to tell other people what they can or can't eat.

What I find obscene is the making a spectacle of the whole dead animal. Like it's supposed to be a 'wow' factor. What can possibly be 'wow' about a baby pig, slaughtered at birth. To me, it's totally unnecessary and actually depraved.

I agree. It disgusted me when I ate meat. I’m vegan now.
People would be horrified if it was a puppy or a kitten.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 21:31

fepsfrost81 · 27/02/2026 21:08

Sounds like a horror movie plot. Poor sage ☹️

Edited

You have a very weird idea of what constitutes a horror movie if you think a domestic pig being ethically and organically raised, slaughtered and eaten even comes close.

For me as a kid, it was fascinating. We got to pet her, feed her and get to “know” her. We all knew she was going to be slaughtered - it wasn’t kept from us or hidden. We learnt all sorts of interesting things and then when she was sent to slaughter, we got to eat the meat we’d helped to raise and care for ourselves.

Sage was much, much more ethically reared and killed than most other meat is today.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 21:32

Glitchymn1 · 27/02/2026 21:30

I agree. It disgusted me when I ate meat. I’m vegan now.
People would be horrified if it was a puppy or a kitten.

Being disgusted by certain animals being killed but not others is nothing but cultural. If you were born and raised in, I don’t know, North Korea, you wouldn’t think twice about eating dog.

Just like lots of countries kill and eat rabbits, or horses, or guinea pigs 🤷‍♀️

Firefly1987 · 27/02/2026 21:33

@faerylights it probably is best case scenario, but surely some of the kids were upset even though they knew it was going to happen? I know I would've been!

faerylights · 27/02/2026 21:37

Firefly1987 · 27/02/2026 21:33

@faerylights it probably is best case scenario, but surely some of the kids were upset even though they knew it was going to happen? I know I would've been!

No, not that I remember, but most of us came from rural backgrounds and were already well used to the idea of animals being raised and killed for meat so it wasn’t anything new. We also used to do trips to the local farm that supplied our school dinners so we knew where the meat came from anyway.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 21:46

Firefly1987 · 27/02/2026 21:33

@faerylights it probably is best case scenario, but surely some of the kids were upset even though they knew it was going to happen? I know I would've been!

Faery is hardly going to post that half the people didn’t turn up because their kids were upset now is she

That would ruin her story

Back in the real world and as I’m from a farming background with my grandad slaughtering and hanging his own pigs, I can assure you
Many of us were utterly distraught by the entire industry

( Even Ramsay was upset when his pigs went to slaughter )

Hedgesandbutterflies · 27/02/2026 21:47

Naming a pig after one of the top herbs to go with pork is... Gloriosly dark

Lincslady53 · 27/02/2026 21:49

On holiday in Mallorca 2 years ago, then hotel has suckling pig on the dinner buffet. It was a whole roast piglet, cut up, but included all parts, including the head. As a child, butchers shops used to have whole pigs on displays in the windows. Whole chickens, rabbits, pheasants, lamb, large joints of beef. We were a lot less squeamish then than now, and we have gone a lot more squeamish than other countries. I think it's a good thing to let people know the origin of the food they eat, rather than just see the meat as a hygienically wrapped package in the supermarket.

faerylights · 27/02/2026 21:50

Hedgesandbutterflies · 27/02/2026 21:47

Naming a pig after one of the top herbs to go with pork is... Gloriosly dark

As kids we all thought it was hilarious 🫣🤣

faerylights · 27/02/2026 21:50

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 21:46

Faery is hardly going to post that half the people didn’t turn up because their kids were upset now is she

That would ruin her story

Back in the real world and as I’m from a farming background with my grandad slaughtering and hanging his own pigs, I can assure you
Many of us were utterly distraught by the entire industry

( Even Ramsay was upset when his pigs went to slaughter )

Shock - two different people have two different experiences! 🙄

Petrolitis · 27/02/2026 21:51

paloma7 · 27/02/2026 17:15

It is not normal in restaurants to have a whole dead baby pig wheeled out, is it? We are not living in the court of Henry 8th ffs.

I'd avoid Segovia if I were you OP.

Suckling pig is the local speciality

Ilovecrispytofu · 27/02/2026 21:54

WearyAuldWumman · 27/02/2026 21:14

I can only speak for my family's village in Eastern Europe, but I think that the logic is that the sow has had x number of piglets and - from a food production point of view - it makes sense for her to be feeding and therefore fattening up x-1.

Once they get to a certain stage, some of the piglets are often sold on to be fattened up even further. It's quite common for a family to buy a couple of piglets, fatten them up for several months and then have them slaughtered for Christmas with some of the meat being eaten fresh, some of it salted and some of it turned into sausages.

Do you mean that the other piglets will put on more weight quickly if they remove one (I guess the ‘runt’ if there is one)? Is that where the idea of eating the suckling pig originates from?

Beachtastic · 27/02/2026 21:56

If you ever go to Portugal, never look in the freezers in the supermarkets.

ScrambledEggs12 · 27/02/2026 21:56

DrPrunesqualer · 27/02/2026 21:23

So you’re eating sheep because YOU want to see them in the fields ?!
wow
all that pain and suffering for a view

Yes, love living in Cumbria!