Dual citizens with expired passports

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Don’t know if there is a thread on this already so happy to join an existing one if that is the case.
Posting in Aibu for traffic. Don’t care if iabu or not. I just need to fly to the UK next week and UK passport is expired.
I could fly almost anywhere in the world on my eu passport so it is ironic I am technically locked out of my country of origin but that’s where I have a work meeting spontaneously scheduled for next week. I would literally fly in the morning and out on the evening.

Anyone else in a similar position?

Apparently these airlines are accepting expired passports:

British Airways
easyJet
Lufthansa
Singapore Airlines
United
Virgin Atlantic

Anyone actually had success with this yet? Or works with the airlines and can confirm passengers will be allowed to travel?

its very easy to renew a British PP - and if its a replacement PP even easier. You can do it online or via the Post Office.

It's hardly just before is it? It's been spoken bout and said they were going to do it for ages

I have only heard about the policy change this week.

£500 previous posters said and only needs to be done once

Getting a new one for a foreign born child is not so easy. Although I agree the UK passport system is efficient and quick in general.

Why renounce British citizenship? If you do, border force can deny you entry of the feel like it.

As a UK citizen you have full right to enter and live and work in the UK for your whole life.

I am not sure what is wrong with requiring British Citizens to show their British passport when entering the country. Most countries have the same rule

Has there been an info campaign specifically targeting people abroad? If so it's been crap as no-one seems to have heard this until the last couple of weeks.

Oct 24 they first started advising in and September/November 2025 the gov fiddled about with rules settling on the Feb 26 date it became complusary

It's been all over my Facebook for months

It's up to people to check in plenty of time current travel rules to go anywhere not just assume they are same as before

Although

Will Irish passport holders need an ETA for the UK?

No, Irish passport holders do not need a UK Electronic Travel Authorisation (ETA) to travel to the UK, including Northern Ireland, because they are citizens of a Common Travel Area (CTA) country and are exempt from the requirement. You just need to present your valid Irish passport (or other valid ID like an Irish Passport Card) to the airline or border control to show your exemption when travelling from outside the CTA.

Source

https://www.gov.uk/eta/when-not-need-eta

Yes that is a bit more involved.

When I got DD2's first NZ PP (she was born & lives in UK), I was asked to prove I gave BIRTH to her and didn't use a surrogate as part of the process. Now THAT is a tricky thing to prove.

Thankfully MN helped me as I had a photo of me 7 months pregnant standing next to a UK govenment minister - which was evidence of at least me being pregnant in a certain window of time. I was delivering a petition & was recruited to do so via MN. Otherwise proving you gave birth to someone 15 years ago can be tricky. Birth certs are not evidence that the mother stated is actually the mother. Its crazy.

Isn't like at most £100 to get a first time foreign passport from abroad?

I don't use FB anymore but I'm regulary online, follow the news daily, and regularly use other socials. Never heard about it before this week so they didn't do a very good job raising awareness.

I've also had several direct communications with the UK PP office since Oct 24 - they didn't even include a leaflet about this impactful change.

How would they know if your mother was British? Like, seriously. You present an Italian passport at the border, you cross, that should be the end of story, no? It doesn’t say anywhere on my passport anything about my mother’s nationality.
what am I missing?

I think, if the poster you're replying to's DS was an adult travelling on his own, it would probably be OK. It becomes problematic when the child is a minor and travelling with a parent, and is therefore evident they are, in fact, dual.

I got hauled over the coals at our 'dual' passport control once, because DS' ID card hadn't yet arrived, and we were travelling with DS' UK passport. His other country have a strict rule that children born to their citizens, regardless of where they were born, are considered citizens from.the get-go and need to travel on the appropriate ID.

Ah yes, stupid me, that said I think the rest of the comment is still valid..entering the UK, even for a night staying at the airport, means complying with the new rules.

But the expired passport must be in the exact same name, so if you have subsequently changed your name due to marriage, divorce or other reason you are not covered.

Welcome to Brexit Britain.

And you are required to provide original birth certs for all grandparents - even the non British ones! (Why???) At short notice this can be really difficult - maybe grandparents are away. (I don't hang on to my parents birth certs...)

We have to provide birth certificates for the non British grandparents? That's going to be impossible for me to do for my DD as her dad and his parents are all dead and its not possible to order birth certificates in my country for anyone else but yourself and your dependents so I can't order copies of them.

No. Under 18's can't renounce until 18. Parents can't do it on a child's behalf.

128 quid I think for the passport plus courier costs to send it back to you, and then you have the costs of getting all the documents you need and sending them by registered post which could add up to a lot of money, especially if they keep asking for more documents or decide they don't like the ones you sent (I know someone that had to send photocopies of passports 3 times because each time they didn't like the way they had been photocopied, even though there isn't any guidance on how you are supposed to photocopy them)

They can pay a large fee to get a special visa so they can come and get a British passport and or visit. I'm not sure exactly how it works but they can come to the UK just not with a eta

I was told by someone who works for the UK Gov in a role where they would have reasonably significant knowledge that the UK passport system is unable to prove that you are a British citizen if you come in on a foreign passport. So, even if you were born in the UK, if you say you are not British they cannot definitively prove you are by referencing their system. I think this is why they are allowing people to show an expired passport - they will probably start building up a database of who had a passport 10, 20, 30 years ago and tell them to reapply for future travel.

Ditto a child born overseas who has a British parent so is British by descent is not recorded anywhere on UK systems as being British. (If they choose to obtain a British passport then they could prove they are entitled and going forwards there would be a record but there is no record of citizenship entitlement prior to applying for a British passport)

That doesn't explain why you can't enter using your naturalisation certificate but you can enter using an expired passport.

I know they still need a valid passport but but why is an expired passport more of a proof than a current and valid naturalisation certificate. An expired passport doesn't mean anything. Many people might have shredded it because it's worthless. It's completely random to say that they will base something as critical (apparently) as permission to enter a country on an expired passport.

Perhaps a naturalisation certificate is easier to fake? I don’t know as I have never seen one but it sounds like a piece of paper.