Dual citizens with expired passports

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Don’t know if there is a thread on this already so happy to join an existing one if that is the case.
Posting in Aibu for traffic. Don’t care if iabu or not. I just need to fly to the UK next week and UK passport is expired.
I could fly almost anywhere in the world on my eu passport so it is ironic I am technically locked out of my country of origin but that’s where I have a work meeting spontaneously scheduled for next week. I would literally fly in the morning and out on the evening.

Anyone else in a similar position?

Apparently these airlines are accepting expired passports:

British Airways
easyJet
Lufthansa
Singapore Airlines
United
Virgin Atlantic

Anyone actually had success with this yet? Or works with the airlines and can confirm passengers will be allowed to travel?

@MyAgileHedgehog This is what's awful. The Passport office sent all those important documents to the wrong person in the first place. This is actually awful - with that lot, firstly it costs a lot to replace it and secondly anyone could have committed extensive identity fraud, I should think. They had so much information.

@C152 because I sent the Embassy birth cert for my younger son, it wasn't acceptable. At no point was this pointed out in the process. So now it has to be the one from the UK, so I've had to apply for it. Yet another delay, not even counting the fact they've lost his Dutch passport.

This was a first passport for my younger son. We'd got a Dutch passport for him because after applying for an English passport for my older son, it was so much easier to stick with the Dutch one. We'd gone for Dutch passports for both of them once older son's UK passport expired. Up until now we'd had no problems with travel, with them. Sigh.

What does the Passport Office do with all these passports they seem to lose? Is there a hole in the floor in the postal room and whenever they're bored they just aim a passport or two at them, see how long it is before it fills up?

Ah, I was not aware of the extent of documentation some people are being asked for (such as grandparents birth certificates), as that is not mentioned on the list available online. If they're asking for additional information, then I agree, this is not clearly communicated and everything required should be clear before you click on the 'apply' button.

https://www.gov.uk/get-a-child-passport/first-child-passport

Wonder why they're asking for British grandparents passport info, they didn't ask that for us. Its like they just make it up as they go along, which is a big part of the problem

Its a big problem and I don't think it can be even be solved by putting the info up before starting the application because different people get asked for different documents, there's no standard to it at all, so it completely depends what person you end up getting at the office to deal with your application - one will be happy with just the required birth certificates and photocopies of other passports, another will demand non-British grandparent birth certificates, another will demand the actual passports rather than photocopies, another will insist on original documents plus translations while others are fine with just the translations.

This was a few years ago now but the passport office lost my kids' applications between the front desk (signed for at reception) and the sixth floor.

Have to admit I've not been asked for grandparents' birth certificates as I haven't got the first clue what their names were even, except for adoptive father's father's surname.

Suppose in those circumstances it'd be necessary to get the parents' birth certificates in order to find out the grand parents' names. What a palaver.

I see this thread has moved on but in case this helps anyone:

1. They explicitly asked me to send my ORIGINAL EU passport and naturalization certificate. Not copies.

1. I had applied for a UK passport. Got my interview date on the same date as my flight was booked so I thought I was screwed. I was about to cancel my trip when dh (after much research) found that the home office has changed the rules again to say that if you obtained Settled status before applying for a UK passport you could still enter the UK with your EU passport. They announced this u-turn on 10th of March. I called up both UK visa and immigration and no one there knew about the rule change and insisted I wouldn't be able to return to the UK without a UK passport. Immigration were pretty rude and horrible to talk to. Ugh. Anyway, I had to jump through absolute hoops to get my EU passport back, then postponed my interview, I did go on the trip and was able to get back in to the UK without any problem. I am going to finish the UK passport application now because who knows when they'll change the rules again and not tell anyone about it.

Tldr: as of now if you applied for settled status before you got UK citizenship you can enter the UK with your EU passport. Make sure you link you settled status to your passport in your ukvi online account. Keep checking the homepage as they randomly keep changing the rules.

A total palaver. I had to explain that its impossible for me to provide some of the grandparents birth certificates because they are dead and in Finland you can't order a copy of someone else's birth certificate, only your own so simply no way to get a dead person's birth certificate.

DS's new picture has been approved, hooray! Now all three passports are approved so I can book flights as soon as they arrive.

I just got word from DH that DDs passport has been approved too! Hopefully it will arrive soon.

I have no clue, we sent in the birth certificates and everything.

We triple checked before we sent everything off and it definitely wasn't on the list, not sure where this requirement came from.

This is all very confusing ! I am Irish, with an Irish passport, married to an Englishman. Have lived here for 30 years. We have a 22 year old daughter, she has an Irish passport. Does this mean she will need a UK passport now ? Thanks for any guidance

No she doesn't! Ireland is in a common travel area with the UK so she can come and go on her Irish passport.

Thank you @CuteOrangeElephant

So odd. What a ridiculous system it is, so much simpler in Finland (I just have to log into the police website with either my banking app or mobile certificate and all my details are already there, don't have to send anything in except the photo and if I used a photo for any other ID in the previous 6 months like drivers license its already there for them to use) and I bet in many other countries its simpler too.

No Irish citizens are exempt because of the 1948 settlement act.

Well, they claim that I haven't sent it.

Honestly, it's ridiculous. My older son's pp application went through okay even though I did it for him (he's nearly adult) as he's autistic. It's not as if I'd put the passport in the envelope for one son and not the other.

I am complaining and asking for the cost of the replacement passport back, but I'm not holding my breath.

My ex commented that when I came to the NL, he couldn't understand why I hated dealing with mail that arrived from the UK government or having to apply for anything. Now he does understand.

Oh god, they are so incompetent aren't they? I hope they cover the cost but I doubt it

It's jawdropping. Update:

The UK Passport office received the documents on 6 March. I contacted them by phone and they still sent an email saying "you need to send the passport". So I put in a complaint. This is now what, 6 weeks later.

My ex-H reported the Dutch passport lost/stolen by, er, the UK Passport office. Paid for a new one.

Literally an hour later I got an email from the complaints department saying 'we've found your passport'.

Buuuut ..... they also said I needed to send a UK birth certificate because the Embassy one I got at younger son's birth, which I sent, isn't good enough (not that they TELL you that in the process).

So on the 6th April I ordered it from the General Records Office. They've taken the money from my CC ... but there is no order number and no email record of it. Just the money gone from my account.

I can't .. fucking ... believe ... how incompetent they are.

Why, in God's name, seeing as you order the birth certificate from the UK government office and then send it right back to a UK government office can't they check their own damn records in the first place?

No wonder the UK's such an utter mess.

Fucking hell, I'm surprised you haven't completely lost your mind by now. And of course they find the passport just after you report it lost/stolen, bloody typical.

Cynical side of me wonders if they're being so incompetent to encourage people to cough up for the certificate of entitlement instead so they don't have to keep going through this hassle - more money for them

I ( dual British Australian) had to get an Australian passport for my 4 month old daughter to visit family in Australia. Why is this any different?

A very odd response from
someone who clearly can’t read properly and doesn’t understand how citizenship by descent rules.

it’s not any different.

People are debating whether it’s right duals should have to do this.

And the pig’s ear it’s been.

It isn't. It's ridiculous all round.