Nearly 1m young people out of work

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62gzl2yl24o

AIBU to be concerned that a life on benefits seems to be a viable option, and glad Labour are bringing in compulsory work placements?

Labour won't bring in compulsory work placements. All the shitty schemes in the World won't make a jot of difference when it now costs so much to employ young people.

The deal forever has been "yes, you are young, have no experience, will mess up, will take time to train.......but you are cheap so I will take you on and see how you go". That's not the case anymore. My company always took on school leavers but we haven't done that for years. Might as well employ somebody experienced. And the last thing I would want is some divvy who is forced to be here on a compulsory placement.

Over generous benefits don't help either. Welfare should be slashed.

It’s a crisis that so many are out of work. I know of four, three genuinely can’t be bothered and have no drive to improve things or find work with their parents not working so no incentive or role model, one is trying but quit a perfectly good job because he didn’t like the hours and is now unemployed again

Would slashing welfare actually help though? Those 24 year olds who have never worked, have no qualifications and no drive - what would they actually do? We can’t make them homeless.

You want lower wages and lower benefits?

My DD is a 2nd year uni student, she applied for probably 60-70 jobs before getting one and probably 20-30 more before her current job. Its zero hours contract and some months she's barely doing 8-12 hrs a month....obviously she's at uni ....but she potentially would included as "employed" but the hours are minimal. She took the job with the agreement it would be about 8 hours a week over 2 shifts, but some weeks she gets no shifts.

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Read the comments on any fb post about someone else being turned down from a retail or fast food job. For every workshy, lazy 'snowflake' there are dozens who just want an entry level position. Soulless, AI portals with no constructive feedback, loss of traditional weekend jobs for 16-18 yo. It is a crisis but it's not because most youngsters don't want to work.

I think the figure is much worse than that.Presumably this only includes those signing on and claiming benefits? There are thousands being supported by their parents who won’t be on this list. I would encourage any YP out of work and less than £16k to sign on although we still won’t get an accurate figure. These very same parents are being hammered for tax left right and centre.

It is a worry esp if they then start having children still no job.

Tiny job market with companies that want 5 years experience for min. wage.

I think the idea with the compulsory work placements is that the money that would’ve been paid directly to the young person through UC will instead be offered to businesses if they agree to take on a young person for example 1 day a week, and if the young person attends then they will be paid by the business.

I see people on benefits every day.

Allowing people to claim from leaving school is a disaster.

They start out employable young people, albeit with a few minor issues sometimes. But a few hundred quid to lie in bed all day at mum and dad’s and spent on takeaways and vapes just embeds whatever anxieties they have, while stripping away any work ethic and ability to get up early etc

After a few years you’re left with somebody who is basically unemployable, they haven’t got up early for years, have zero work ethic. The diagnoses then flood in and they start claiming PIP. Very few go on to work after 5+ years of benefits, they do have kids of course though (more benefits).

If they’d never been given the benefits to start with, things would be very different. I’m a big believer in necessity as motivation.

Who needs that bullshit when trying to run a business though? Can you imagine the admin involved just to be rewarded with 1 days worth of their UC? I suspect take up will be low!

I don’t think young people are creative enough in job hunting.

They aim for all the main brands (McDonalds, major retailers) which everyone else will be applying for. They need to try pubs, small local ads, cleaning, they need to be advertising their services on Facebook, care homes, that sort of thing.

Before they blame "young people" en masse, Labour should bring back, and invest in the school careers service.

Genuinely work with each young person to find out what they like and enjoy, what environments they feel comfortable in. What their aptitudes are.

Nothing else is going to help. Trying to shove square pegs in round holes doesn't work.

When schools were manageable size, a school careers manager could easily support 60 school leavers and give genuine practical support.

l ledt school in the very early 80’s. We signed on automatically.

I was at uni too. We signed on then. Loads of people were on the ‘dole’ too. Some for years.

They all turned into functioning working adults.

Yeah, that was then though - and this is now.

The parents shouldn't allow that, I wouldn't and my parents certainly didn't. When I decided not to go to university I was told under no uncertain terms that I wouldn't be allowed to sit about with my finger up my arse all day.

The parents are told not to push the kids as they may be neurodiverse/anxious and self harm if they try.

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My daughter is in her second year too.

Has she tried recruitment agencies?

My daughter has two lecture free days a week, signed up with an agency and has worked every day she's been available.

She's currently living 180 miles away but the agency have told her they'll transfer her file to her home town when she comes back for the summer and will get her something for her first week back.

You want them to do minimum wage jobs and prevent them from claiming benefits?

Honestly, who could have predicted this when they brought in minimum wage? 🙄

I don’t think young people are creative enough in job hunting.

There is some truth in this.

Er, I have every sympathy with young people but some of us did not sign on automatically. My parents wouldn’t allow it while I was living with them, I had to walk around our local area with my cv until I got a temporary job.

Yes.

Bully for you. Why did you do what your parents told you to?

I didn’t go home in the holidays and my dm wouldn’t have cared.