Nearly 1m young people out of work

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62gzl2yl24o

AIBU to be concerned that a life on benefits seems to be a viable option, and glad Labour are bringing in compulsory work placements?

The parents are supporting them.

If I were in your position, I’d be encouraging my teen to go to college to get a trade.

Because she was living under their roof.

From this thread the response rate seems
normal, autism or not.

Honestly, you are deliberately misrepresenting the root of the problem.

The article you linked to says “The UK is experiencing a weak jobs market, with young people particularly affected by cuts in hospitality and graduate schemes”

Thats very different than one million young people deciding a life on benefits is preferable.

Benefits are now a lifestyle choice.
I never thought I’d bash benefits. But I work predominantly with people on benefits as a social worker, they’re being paid far more than I am and it stings. Every single family I have worked with for years believes at least one of their children is neurodivergent (trauma entirely overlooked) and it’s like a ticket to a larger property, more benefits etc and not at all to do with the needs of the child.

The problem is the system that enables the high level of benefit fraud. Not only relating to additional needs of course but it’s absolutely common practice to say whatever is needed to fit into a higher bracket.

For anyone trying to help a young person into work this might be of interest https://www.nationaltrustjobs.org.uk/where-you-could-work/apprenticeships/

100%

I keep posting over and over about the lack of “first” jobs. The little market town we live in has lost about 4 or 5 pubs in the past few years. The remaining cafes and indie shops are sold traders or family-run. Move onto the bigger retailers and they make the hours such that you need to be 18+ And then there’s the rise of self-service checkouts so no need for as many employees.
My DS had a couple of interviews in places like cafes and garden centre advertising 8 hrs a week on a Saturday or Sunday… only to be told they need someone to be available during the week to cover sickness and holidays so him being at college is a deal breaker. After many attempts at getting cleaning jobs (need to be 18, have experience, we don’t want a teenage boy to clean our house….) he finally got one but they only offer 2 hours a week!!

Young people can’t just “get a job” and it really pisses me off when people can’t see how things have changed. I worked through sixth form and uni, changed jobs with no difficulty when I didn’t like working in a clothes shop!! I don’t think my DS is going to have the same experience.

Agreed its so frustrating my son has finally got English and Maths functional skills hes currently doing world experience, he will literally take any job going ,hes not lazy but there are so few opportunities.

I work for a large employer in the North West.
We recruit graduates and apprentices every year. We have 100s of agency staff on a temp to perm basis.
We struggle to fill roles.

My experience with teens is completely different to your.

DC in year 2 at uni has several zero hr jobs at a leisure center - lifeguard, swim teacher and manager - over the holidays works there full time, during term time gets a regular 10-15 hrs a week. Only one other uni friend has a job, the others are happy to reply and and dad.

DC in year 12 at college also works zero hours at leisure centre - probably around 7 hrs a week due to chronic fatigue and can't over do it. They are the only one of their friends and college class who have a job. This DC is also completing voluntary work as part of college course, most of the class cannot complete the course because they cannot be bothered to get the volunteer hours.

Family/friends DC don't have/want jobs either as happy for mum/dad to pay.

My DC were told at 16 you needed to work.
At 17 you needed to pay to learn to drive to give better work opportunities.

There are jobs there in my experience. It's about approaching directly, phone calls, emails, knocking on doors if you have too.

Sending a CV via Indeed isn't applying for a job.

You realise that you can do both?

She could have moved out? Grants were around in the time we’re talking about. Or the dole.

Or part time roles that are looking for someone that is available 24/7 even though they only want you to work 8 hours a week so they won't hire anyone in school or college because they aren't available all of they time. When I was a teenager I walked into a local hotel said hi I'm looking for a job and I was hired straight away and worked weekends and Summer holidays. Now nobody is looking for weekend staff, if you aren't available all day everyday they don't want you.

You can belive what you want it doesnt mean you get DLA though just becsuse you beleive your child is ND and even if they are it goes off need not diagnosis which YOU should know.

You didn't need maths and english GCSE's to get an office job years ago. Many of us started with basic admin / office junior and worked our way up.

Sending a CV via Indeed isn't applying for a job.

It is if that’s how the employer wants to receive job applications!

Oh God I’m so glad you said it before me. This is absolutely my experience as well. To the extent I’m honestly surprised when I encounter a family not in receipt of DLA as at least one of their children has autism/adhd.

The problem is if you say it on here you just get accused of being a Daily Mail stooge. I wish, wish, I could bring them to work with me for the day. The best thing that could happen is a proper audit of benefits, disability benefits, neurodivergence etc so then we have those unarguable figures that we know should be recorded.

Yup

Throw in the ubiquitous ASD diagnosis and they're on a railroad to a lifetime of unemployment, depression and dissatisfaction.

If only mum and dad could've pulled their finger out in early childhood and instilled some work ethics and expectations they'd be a completely different kid

Which is odd as I have many people claiming PIP for adhd/ASD who are able to do literally everything apart from work. I don’t know how the hell they get it but they do.

You do now though thats the point.

You "have" them? Where? The cellar?

From the cases I’ve seen it’s not so much lazy parenting as anxious parenting. Did you see Kelly Bright’s iPlayer documentary? Etta’s mum is a good example. She doesn’t seem like the parent at all - just her daughter’s lackey, practically afraid of her.

It always was.

When l was young people signed in so they could start a band.

Wham ‘soul on the dole’

Through work.

Y’know - the service you provide in return for money.

Of course they do 🙄