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John Davidson shouting the N word during the BAFTAS

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Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:02

John Davidson has Tourettes and is a campaigner for the condition. Whist Michale B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting he shouted out the racial slur. It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch. I feel terrible for the two presenters. I’m really conflicted on this one.

What are your thoughts?

No one should be subjected to abuse. That is my bottom line. Maybe the fact I was called P*** (I’m half Indian) growing up has influenced my views. I obviously recognise Tourette’s is involuntary.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

British acting awards interrupted by racist slur from man with Tourette Syndrome | CNN

At Sunday night’s BAFTA ceremony in London, a man yelled a racist slur as two of the world’s most celebrated Black actors, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, presented an award on stage.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

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Triskellion75 · 23/02/2026 17:50

The real blame lies with the BBC here, they had two hours to edit it, and they didn't. Instead, we've all got to witness the humiliation of two men simply trying to present an award, and the fallout which will likely be having a horrendous effect on a man with a disability. A man who has attempted suicide in the past.

Poor show all round.

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:50

clickthat · 23/02/2026 17:47

Perhaps you’re both not very bright

Now you have jumped the shark.

ScarlettSarah · 23/02/2026 17:50

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 17:48

That's what coprolalia looks like though. That's the condition. It can't be changed, so best to learn about it and show understanding.

Yes, I can see that. But sometimes people have disabilities that have negative impacts on others, and those sets of rights have to be balanced. Which admittedly isn't always easy to do.

Mt563 · 23/02/2026 17:52

ScarlettSarah · 23/02/2026 17:47

If 'informing people about Tourette's' includes two black actors having the n-word shouted at them, then yes, I think this should have been done differently. None of those men will be feeling good about this today.

Then you want him locked in his house and never allowed out. Because there will always be the risk of him saying offensive things and upsetting people. Unfortunately, there is no solution than to accept life is difficult and unfair for both sides and no solution can make it right for both.

SlipperStar · 23/02/2026 17:52

nomas · 23/02/2026 16:08

There is no hierarchy but two of the most common racist slurs in the UK are the n word and P word, as shown by the frequency with which Tommy Robinson and Reform supporters use them.

What is an equivalent word for white people? There just isn’t one.

So of course hearing the N word at an event watched globally is going to raise questions.

And the blasé response from many on this thread, that black people just need to deal with it, needs calling out.

But you're saying a black person is deserving of more compassion and understanding than a disabled person....

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:52

clickthat · 23/02/2026 17:48

I don’t.

That I can believe. Thanks for admitting it.

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 17:52

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:49

So which word would you like to utter more? The N word or the P word?

And the fact that you can’t name an equivalent word for white oeople should show you your privilege and maybe explain why the N and P
words are so hurtful to many.

Both words are used by the two groups respectively. Both words are wrong no matter who uses them. The reclaiming argument never washed and never will. When saying the words, no matter by whom, those in ear shot could be like you and find offence. Or is it only you who gets to decide what's offensive?

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:52

SlipperStar · 23/02/2026 17:52

But you're saying a black person is deserving of more compassion and understanding than a disabled person....

Can you quote where I said that?

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 17:53

I am still waiting to hear about the white slaves. Who are they? The ones that exist in 2026.

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 17:53

ScarlettSarah · 23/02/2026 17:49

Really? So you think he feels OK about having shouted the N word at two black men in such a public arena? I thought the whole film was about the impact his tourette's had on him. Do you think it was just water off a duck's back?

No, he's a lovely guy by all accounts and probably feels bloody awful - but I don't think he should, as he couldn't help or control it and had no ill-intent, he just had an inopportune tic.

Also he's always been brave about his condition - appearing on documentaries, campaigning, working and living a normal life - so I'd absolutely expect him not to hide away when a film about his life is nominated for awards.

ScarlettSarah · 23/02/2026 17:53

Mt563 · 23/02/2026 17:52

Then you want him locked in his house and never allowed out. Because there will always be the risk of him saying offensive things and upsetting people. Unfortunately, there is no solution than to accept life is difficult and unfair for both sides and no solution can make it right for both.

It's very difficult. Because black people (or any people) also have the right to go about their business without hearing racial slurs.

Theunamedcat · 23/02/2026 17:54

It was pre recorded so I don't see why it needed to be aired unless they wanted to cause controversy/embarrassment etc especially as they allegedly edited out someone shouting out free Palestine

It literally didn't need to air

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:54

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 17:52

Both words are used by the two groups respectively. Both words are wrong no matter who uses them. The reclaiming argument never washed and never will. When saying the words, no matter by whom, those in ear shot could be like you and find offence. Or is it only you who gets to decide what's offensive?

Nice try at trying to change the subject.

That poster thinks she should be able to use those slurs. I’d like to know which she wants to use more.

It seems you also think you should be able to use those slurs. Which one do you want to use
more?

JasmineMac · 23/02/2026 17:54

ScarlettSarah · 23/02/2026 17:42

It's a weak argument to say 'oh well he couldn't help it'. There are plenty of things people 'can't help', but the impact on others can still be very unpleasant. This is one of those occasions - awful for the guy shouting out I'm sure, but also awful for the guys on the receiving end. It's evident that the situation should have been handled differently in order to avoid this outcome for all of them.

I would equate this to taking an autistic child to the soft play when they can't handle the bright lights and the noise. It's not fair on the child, nor on those around that child if they start kicking off. And no, I am not saying he is a child, it's just an example I am thinking of that often comes up on mumsnet, where someone is in a situation they cannot handle.

There are some things that it just isn't possible for people with certain disabilities to do, regardless of the adjustments made. A blind person cannot drive a bus. This man was unable to sit through a ceremony without shouting offensive words, upsetting others and himself. It's not suggesting 'bringing back to the asylum' to say that he shouldn't have been there in that situation.

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It's not remotely equatable.

There are lots of places John generally avoids in his day to day life, because he's an incredibly considerate man. He's spent his entire life considering the feelings of others.

He was at the BAFTA's because a movie about his life was up for several awards. Given the context, I imagine he'd hoped that understanding and allowance may be afforded on what was a once in a lifetime occasion.

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 17:55

ScarlettSarah · 23/02/2026 17:50

Yes, I can see that. But sometimes people have disabilities that have negative impacts on others, and those sets of rights have to be balanced. Which admittedly isn't always easy to do.

Would you like it if he gives up his job and his campaigning and locks himself indoors for the rest of his life then? Because that's the other alternative. That's it, there are no other options for that condition. You live your life, or you hide.

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 17:55

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:54

Nice try at trying to change the subject.

That poster thinks she should be able to use those slurs. I’d like to know which she wants to use more.

It seems you also think you should be able to use those slurs. Which one do you want to use
more?

You've been on that exact subject for quite a while.

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:56

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 17:55

You've been on that exact subject for quite a while.

This is why I stay on these threads. Chip beneath the surface, and the ugly underbelly soon shows itself.

Tryagain26 · 23/02/2026 17:56

ScarlettSarah · 23/02/2026 17:42

It's a weak argument to say 'oh well he couldn't help it'. There are plenty of things people 'can't help', but the impact on others can still be very unpleasant. This is one of those occasions - awful for the guy shouting out I'm sure, but also awful for the guys on the receiving end. It's evident that the situation should have been handled differently in order to avoid this outcome for all of them.

I would equate this to taking an autistic child to the soft play when they can't handle the bright lights and the noise. It's not fair on the child, nor on those around that child if they start kicking off. And no, I am not saying he is a child, it's just an example I am thinking of that often comes up on mumsnet, where someone is in a situation they cannot handle.

There are some things that it just isn't possible for people with certain disabilities to do, regardless of the adjustments made. A blind person cannot drive a bus. This man was unable to sit through a ceremony without shouting offensive words, upsetting others and himself. It's not suggesting 'bringing back to the asylum' to say that he shouldn't have been there in that situation.

Edited

Don't you see the irony in that?
A film about his Iife was nominated in several categories. And won in a couple.
The film was about his struggle and how society doesn't understand Tourettes.

Of course he should have been there.

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 17:57

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:56

This is why I stay on these threads. Chip beneath the surface, and the ugly underbelly soon shows itself.

Oh I think we all know why you stay on these threads.

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 17:57

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:56

This is why I stay on these threads. Chip beneath the surface, and the ugly underbelly soon shows itself.

The ugly underbelly of ableism. Although actually that's not exactly been an underbelly, it's overt.

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 17:58

Mt563 · 23/02/2026 17:52

Then you want him locked in his house and never allowed out. Because there will always be the risk of him saying offensive things and upsetting people. Unfortunately, there is no solution than to accept life is difficult and unfair for both sides and no solution can make it right for both.

That’s a strawman argument and it’s been used throughout this thread to mob anyone who’s questioned the appropriateness of John’s attendance at an event where he was apparently always likely to shout racial slurs in the presence of black people.

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 17:59

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 17:57

Oh I think we all know why you stay on these threads.

Why don’t you come out and say whatever it is that you’re hinting at?

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 18:00

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 17:58

That’s a strawman argument and it’s been used throughout this thread to mob anyone who’s questioned the appropriateness of John’s attendance at an event where he was apparently always likely to shout racial slurs in the presence of black people.

What other categories of people do you expect a tourettes sufferer to avoid? Listen to yourself.

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:00

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 17:57

Oh I think we all know why you stay on these threads.

Nothing to say to the poster who said there isn’t an issue with using the N word?

The collective silence on this thread says it all.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 23/02/2026 18:01

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:33

Yes, I have issues with the way many MNers talk about race here.

If you see it as victim mentality, it’s probably because the ratio of white to BAME on this thread is massively to your advantage.

Or because you're getting offended by somebody with a disability.

At the end of the day you can choose to be offended and slate a man that couldn't help it rather than an institution that failed to properly safeguard all involved by making sure everybody was aware there may be some offensive but unintentional language used or you can get over it, and accept this wasn't an act of racism and violence.

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