To stop nurse from giving me an Iv flush?

[EachandEveryone]

I don’t know maybe I was. I don’t gel with her anyway she’s a band 4 with no sense of personal space. This morning she woke me up with her face in mine it really made me jump. Them proceeded to
hrlp me sit up o am not a complete invalid and she had me in a hold right next to her bust. I literally shouted that police song Don’t Stamd so close to me. She’s been on am hour and now she’s been in 9 times. Jesus I have to
jsve a shower and it’s her I’ve asked for some omelet as well.

Sou picc line needed flushing she went off and drew something up and tried to flush I syopprd her straight away and said she wasn’t qualified to flush long lines and I don’t know what was in it. She said she’s qualified on her own country for years. I’m a nurse, the band five came in flushed it and said the four can flush as she’s qualified at home. Am o wrong then? They are all lovely and trying their best but I just thought I don’t know what I are putting on me and it needs to be done sterile.

i will have a think about the personal space thing as it’s a difficult one she could be horrible to me

Again you fail to read the OP.

The OP queried the inappropriate attempted procedure to a senior nurse who just shrugged and said “she does it in her own country”. Which makes the band 5 just as bad in this case. The band 5 has no way of knowing if the band 4 HCA is experienced and qualified in the procedure because as a band 4 employee the only checks will have been on band 4 requirements. The fact that the HCA approached the procedure incorrectly suggests that they are not qualified whatever they claim.

Read the OP’s posts. She has many times asked the HCA to stop her inappropriate and frankly dangerous “care” (especially in intimate settings), she has raised this with the senior nurse available and had no support.

Most posters on this thread including those with experience in medical settings have no trouble recognising this as shockingly bad care to a very sick patient.

Your responses are:

• to abuse the OP
• accuse her of behaviours invented in your imagination
• give her even higher hurdles to jump in order to get basic humanly decent care and safe care

Do you work in NHS management?

I have agreed throughout the entire thread that the OP should refuse the care if she felt the Band 4 wasn't qualified. I initially suggested that she should ask for a 2nd staff member to be there during her care. It's evident that the OP has made requests to both the Band 4 and Band 5 and unfortunately they are still ignoring this.... hence why I suggested she could go higher than them. It's obvious speaking with them isn't getting her anywhere?

Not sure what behaviours I've invented 😂 Or what hugher hurdles I've suggested?

Yes, plainly if you don’t work for NHS management you are experienced in victim blaming and misrepresenting your own history.

Or did HQ delete your post because it was so very kind and friendly to the OP.

im a former nurse and know nothing of bands because I don’t live in the uk , you might have been a little rude but that’s understandable when you are stressed and you have every right to question things if you feel someone isn’t competent in what they are doing..

Band 4’s are not HCAs

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/candidate/jobadvert/C9418-24-0552?employer=south%20west%20yorkshire%20partnership%20nhs%20&language=&page=407#:~:text=specifically%20identified%20tasks.-,This%20will%20include%20but%20is%20not%20limited%20to%20patient%20observation,sodium%20chloride%20following%20appropriate%20training.

here you go op - here is a band 4 job description in beds. It clearly says they can flush a PICC

It is the same in many places and many settings

They are nursing associates

This job is for a role in oncology/chemotherapy and I wonder if that is why they will be trained/allowed to administer IV's. I work on a surgical ward and we were told any band 4's working in our area would not be able to administer IV'S.

OP i wish you well and very much hope this situation gets sorted quickly for you.

@EachandEveryonehow are you ?