To think that those terrified of Reform/Restore vastly overestimate the power parliament actually has?

[BlueJuniper94]

Just as the title says. The fear mongering is intense at the moment but I think people could surely find peace if they looked closer at what our parliament is actually capable of (not much, ask u-turn Kier) there's the Lords, Human Rights law, and the massive unelected bureaucracy which will thwart every effort made by these parties if they do find themselves with enough of a majority. It just won't happen. Look how watered now Meloni is now that she is, to the disappointment of many who voted for her I am sure.

There also seems to be a contradiction, Farage and Lowe are frequently reffered to as populists, populism defined as empty rhetoric without delivery. If you truly believe this, there is nothing to fear. It's all hot air. Anyone who gets close to power will find themselves absorbed into the uniparty or captured as containment.

Not mudslinging at all. I was trying to understand why you might be so naive as to believe that you would be better off without the legal protections offered by the Equality Act.

I thought perhaps that you were very young and just hadn't yet had a chance to think things through properly. You've ruled that out now, so I only think of two other possible explanations.

One possibility is simply that you might lack the intelligence to be able to understand the potential implications of scrapping your legal rights. This seems unlikely since you were apparently capable of university level study.

So I'm left with the only other possibility that I'm able to identify, which is that you don't believe that the loss of rights will impact negatively on you personally, and that you would welcome the opportunity to be able to discriminate with impunity against the groups that you don't like.

What is your agenda? You are either staggeringly ignorant or a blatant rage baiter

People terrified of Reform, Labour or the Tories are the ones who think they are going to lose out.

I don't. I'm pretty much known for being the calm grown up in any situation and I hate being the centre of attention. However, when a party with significant connections to racism, policies of tax cuts to encourage entrepreneurship (a la Liz Truss) and a relationship with the current US regime (which is decimating women's rights, religious freedom and literally disappearing people) I'm going to feel a certain way about it.

People “terrified”of Reform see them for the asset stripping racist billionaire lickspittles they are

Reform have said they want to create an ICE equivalent. You don’t think that’s possible. Presumably most people agree, hence the polling. And - just like Brexit - they will find out that if you ask for really awful things you get them. And in this case, the thing they’re asking for is children will be dragged from pre schools into detention just like in the US.

That would surely be everyone who isn't a straight white male billionaire?.

I get the sentiment, but any potential Reform voter who decides they can't be bothered to vote at all? I'll be encouraging that.

Bingo.

I think the point is that we feel that we'll all (or a large proportion of us) would be worse off under a Reform government. Nobody can afford to be so complacent that they would not be affected, if not in the immediate term then at some point down the road.

Those putting flags on lamp posts, screaming at hotels, signing general election petitions and holding (pathetic) “national strikes” are the drama queens. Highly embarrassing watching them with their sad flags, all filming each other for the social media grifter circlejerk.

Yep, agreed.

I think the days of having such protections are numbered anyway. They have been privileges granted to us because we had the prosperity and stability to do so.

If we continue to import high numbers of people from Muslim countries which are culturally hostile to women, and our birth rate continues to decline, we are at great risk of having a society that looks much more like the places these people have come from, and far less like the one you now seem keen to preserve. You can insist there is not the faintest chance of this happening, and I will disagree, just like I think there isnt the faintest chance of Farage having sufficient support to claim what he may say he's planning to do.

Do you think I'm a white male billionaire. And come off it with the "straight" nobody cares if you are gay.

Restore all the way ❤️❤️❤️

So, let's just take your premise at face value. I think it's fundamentally flawed, but let's set that aside for the time being and follow your internal logic.

If we are faced with a significant growth in the number of Muslim people who are culturally hostile to women and want to impose their values on the UK, would you rather:

a) live in a society which offers robust legal protections prohibiting discrimination on the grounds of biological sex, or

b) live in a society where women have no protections under the law because that bit of legislation has been scrapped?

All the way to where?

Hell?
Fascism?
Chaos and societal collapse?

What is the end game exactly?

Absolutely! Women’s rights, illegal immigrants deported straight out, our country has been take over and people are fighting back.. 💪 finally!!!!!’

How are you envisaging my life will change in scenario B

Well, I'm still trying to work out why anyone would vote against their own interests in such a dramatic way.

Is it that you care more about having the ability to discriminate against others with impunity than you fear losing your own rights?

I'm asking you the question.

There will be no robust protections either way.

My rights are better protected in a cohesive society which values women. Whatever happens, this is not how the future is looking

That simply isn't true.

I can't work out if you're actually too ignorant to understand the difference that the Equality Act makes or if you're just being disingenuous because the question doesn't suit your agenda.

If you genuinely believe that legislation makes no difference, then why do you think the far right are so eager to get rid of it? If the law offers no protection at all, then why wouldn't they leave it in place for those of us who happen to like having it?

How well do you think rights were protected in this country before the relevant legislation was enacted?