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Our car storage strategy in the UK is a joke. AIBU?

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JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 10:21

Note: I'll put the disclaimers at the end of the thread to try and mitigate against the usual "never seen this before OP, you sound overly invested" gaslighters.

AIBU to think that for a small island with a rapidly growing population, our approach to car storage and parking is ... well, a joke?

And that we need to start restricting street parking somehow to stop the households who have three or four cars on the street, making life a misery for others and for visitors?

Hear me out please for a minute.

I admit I have mainly lived in suburbs or zone of major cities. And today, I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

However in the nine places I've lived, and the many places I've visited, you see the same things:

  • It doesn't matter if it's a street of semi-detached 4 beds, or a row of Victorian terraces, or a new build estate: you find houses not using driveways, parking cars nose to nose, often on kerbs.
  • Even if a house has a driveway, the British driver's strange attitude to owning the street in front of their house, means they'd rather park on the road instead of the driveway. Meaning more congestion on the kerbside, fewer places for visitors etc.
  • And let's face it, many can't even reverse onto the driveway or pilot their car with enough skill to use it
  • Away from driveways, I have visited streets with HMOs where friends are tearing their hair out, people with 7 cars to one house. Imagine what happens to street parking then..
  • Or it doesn't even need to be an HMO. Billy big balls can buy vintage pick up trucks and line them up on the street nose to nose and take all available parking. As long as you're within the permit structure, or if no CPZ, then all the cars are taxed and MOT'd? Then you're fine to have as many cars as you want on the street
  • Finally, people who have three or four cars, tend to have the "advantage" in situations like this. They usually have one or two cars "in place", so if parking is tight, they can (and do) "shuffle things" around to ensure they keep their road positions.

So, AIBU to suggest another way? Can we limit the number of cars owned to two a household on a street, and with a designated storage place needing to be named for anything over 2 cars? Should all suburban streets have some form of visitor permits so that people aren't parking three streets away because big Billy has to be able to see his pickups from his window at all times? Can we have proper enforcement from councils to ensure wheelchair users, buggies, young people can actually traverse our streets without having to brush past metal which has taken up part of the kerb?

We're a small island with a lot of history. We weren't designed to have two rows of cars parked down either side of suburban and urban roads, with delivery drivers racing towards nervous nellies who then refuse to reverse.

We are however horribly in denial about parking. Councils are addicted to the revenue, or ignore the problems if they do exist, knowing that there's little or no alternative.

All I see on threads like these in the past are people saying

  • "My eldest daughter uses her car for work, I use mine, so does my DH, and we have something fun for the weekends. I have every right to my four cars on the street. YABU"
  • "You're advocating for 15 minute cities, you will own nothing and be happy, you're a communist, YABU"

Why are we so addicted to car use to the point where anything now goes?

AIBU to ask for a more forward thinking solution to car ownership, where people aren't owning five cars on one small suburban street, without a driveway? Surely car ownership is far too cheap if that's an option for any regular Joe.

What do you think...AIBU?

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MikeRafone · 21/02/2026 19:18

RawBloomers · 21/02/2026 18:34

Try stepping away from the activist mindset and you might be able to convince people of a better way of doing things. As it is you sound like a sloganeer with no appreciation of diversity.

Suggesting that a car is a hassle is now turning into an activist - yet parking is being moaned about constantly on this board, just go to advanced search and pop in "parking" you'll find hundreds of threads about parking problems and the hassles with neighbours over parking, the hassle with schools and parking, the hassle with people parking and taking up a whole street with cones or their cars. Go to a city with a car and try and find somewhere to park, its a hassle, go to any hospital carpark and it's a hassle trying to find somewhere to park. Its hardly untrue and its mostly drivers complaining

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 21/02/2026 19:28

Maybe all new blocks of flats should be built.with UK underground car parks.

Paving parking where l live is the first retreat for arseholes and chancers. Also cars seem to be getting a lot bigger.

Not only do they block the pavement to disabled access and children's push chairs But damage the pavement slabs and surfaces as well.

Another scam is strangers parking and blocking people's driveways who live near Airports for the duration of their holiday..It is rife where l live

RosyDaysAhead · 21/02/2026 19:33

Elbowpatch · 20/02/2026 10:27

Perhaps the system used in urban areas of Japan would improve things. If you can’t prove you have somewhere off-street to park your car within 2 Km of your home, you can’t register it.

This would mean the poorest members of society who rely on cars for work, would be unable to own them as they don’t have the parking spaces with their flats or small terrace homes to park them’ it screams of classism

BasilPersil · 21/02/2026 20:10

MidnightPatrol · 20/02/2026 10:34

I don’t think people are parking 3 or 4 cars on residential streets really, unless an HMO.

We are only allowed two permits for our household (albeit only have one car).

Where I live nearly all housing stock is Victorian - so built without cars in mind. No drives.

God they do. We live in zone 3 and our next door neighbours have 1 car for the adults, a VW transporter for the weekend and a car for their late teen. I've never seen them take public transport anywhere despite having a train station at the end of the street and 20 billion buses. It's really not uncommon.

I agree OP. The idea you can use public space to store private property like that is bonkers. People complain about parking permit fees but frankly 80 quid a year is basically free for that area of land in London.

BasilPersil · 21/02/2026 20:11

RawBloomers · 20/02/2026 21:31

A one car drive does little for the surrounding community, it provides dedicated space for that home owner, but removes a space from the street that anyone could use. It also increases council costs in pavement maintenance.

Why should they drop the fee?

Concreting over front gardens is also awful for urban flood management.

Parisian14 · 21/02/2026 20:26

beAsensible1 · 20/02/2026 13:10

this is the main issue with councils, there will never be demand when services are inadequate. you have to provide the services first then the people will come.

You are totally right. Our council has outsourced transport to a private company, so bus routes have to be “economically viable”.

i understand this from a private company perspective they need to make a profit to ensure financial viability of the company.

But where does this leave vast swathes of the country that have no viable public transport? Currently for many the ONLY option and also the cheapest option is car ownership.

i live in a small town 15 miles from a city. That’s where the jobs are. But because we are not on a main transport route, public transport is diabolical. Hence the multitude of cars, with the knock on impact on the environment. Unless the money is made available to increase public transport, car ownership will not decrease.

I have no faith in politicians. They waffle on about congestion and the environment but the money is not available to change people’s choices - or no choice really to drive.

The issues in a city will be different, with lack of driveways with older housing stock. I guess in a city with decent public transport you could limit car ownership by only allowing one parking permit per property with no off street parking. This disadvantages those who cannot afford off street parking, is that fair? Over the longer term it would mean only those who could genuinely accept living with one car, would buy in those areas. Worries about property prices decreasing? My nearest city does have controlled parking areas where there is a limit on parking permits per residence. These are some of the most expensive areas of the city as they are inner city, high amenity areas. Residents can walk into city centre in 20 mins to 30 mins.

Until I moved out of the city to this town with limited public transport, I had never had more than one car in the household. When living in the city I drove out of the city to work in a small town and my partner cycled 15 mins to work. Once we moved out to town, and became parents we needed 2 cars as worked in different directions and had childcare drop offs to manage. I think this is quite a common pattern for families.

No answers, just musings!

Parisian14 · 21/02/2026 21:06

Flamingojune · 20/02/2026 22:48

Cycling can be the fastest way

You literally ignored every point made in the above post, not a helpful response.

To address your post, yes cycling can be the fastest, but in many instances is not.

Your response does nothing to advance the case for more increased cycling journeys which I am in favour of.

Parisian14 · 21/02/2026 21:11

Glaspeated · 21/02/2026 00:51

Completely agree.

There are two further up our street and they’re totally inappropriate for a residential area. There really ought to be rules about them, particularly as they just sit there static for large chunks of the year.

caravans should not be allowed to park on residential streets. Our neighbours have a caravan and pay for storage. Due to our narrow streets it would be impossible park on street.

Paul2023 · 21/02/2026 21:35

Flamingojune · 21/02/2026 18:31

No. I don't have that fear nor have had that experience.

Never gone on trains late at night in London , I don’t mean central London , I mean the rough suburbs with gangs of youths roaming about ?
Maybe you haven’t noticed it ,or had no problems I don’t know

Flamingojune · 21/02/2026 22:04

Paul2023 · 21/02/2026 21:35

Never gone on trains late at night in London , I don’t mean central London , I mean the rough suburbs with gangs of youths roaming about ?
Maybe you haven’t noticed it ,or had no problems I don’t know

My over all experience of train travel has been better than travelling in cars, without a doubt

Empink · 21/02/2026 22:04

Totally agree, 3 doors down parked his massive old school Mercedes outside my house for 1 year! He has a drive with two broken down vans in it and has a small run around which he also parks outside of his drive!!

Riverflow6 · 21/02/2026 22:07

One of the roads next us has a house with 5 cars. They have 3 adult children living at home. It’s madness

Flamingojune · 21/02/2026 22:09

Parisian14 · 21/02/2026 21:06

You literally ignored every point made in the above post, not a helpful response.

To address your post, yes cycling can be the fastest, but in many instances is not.

Your response does nothing to advance the case for more increased cycling journeys which I am in favour of.

I was referring to the phrase 'the luxury of time that is assumed here' - bikes are often faster

Empink · 21/02/2026 22:19

Exactly, I leave my car at my parents drive and walk there (15mins away). I have a toddler so would love to park nearer my house. When I do dare to park near my house the selfish idiots tend to park that far up the arse I can't open the boot to get the pram in. The amount of space they need for tiny cars is ridiculous. Rather than parking appropriately, which would leave enough room for others, they would rather park right outside their front door. It has annoyed me to the point of leaving it where I do. I do try to pretend I live in a massive mansion and the 15 min walk is the length of the drive!

lilkitten · 21/02/2026 22:35

I can't understand people parking on the street when they have a drive, unless they're leaving it for family/friend to park there easily for example. I'd love a drive. I live on a terraced street, and we're lucky that most households here (including mine) only own 1 car, so I usually can park on my street if I'm home at a reasonable time. A nearby similar terraced street has more expensive homes, they usually have 2 cars per house and up to 4 for some (with older kids still at home). However, I don't feel annoyed about the lack of parking as I knew that when I bought the house, I just can't wait to afford a house with parking.

Skates · 21/02/2026 22:56

I live in a town in Kent/london. They are building 510 new flats and houses in the town centre. There will only be parking for 120 cars. The town is already gridlocked every morning/evening. Weekends are a joke. Schools and doctors are full. Trains hit and miss. We had a town hall meeting and all the residents said they didn’t want the new builds. Council completely ignored us. It’s going to be mayhem for parking here

RawBloomers · 21/02/2026 23:25

MikeRafone · 21/02/2026 19:18

Suggesting that a car is a hassle is now turning into an activist - yet parking is being moaned about constantly on this board, just go to advanced search and pop in "parking" you'll find hundreds of threads about parking problems and the hassles with neighbours over parking, the hassle with schools and parking, the hassle with people parking and taking up a whole street with cones or their cars. Go to a city with a car and try and find somewhere to park, its a hassle, go to any hospital carpark and it's a hassle trying to find somewhere to park. Its hardly untrue and its mostly drivers complaining

That's a strawman. I have not said that suggesting car ownership can be a hassle is being an activist. I agree that car ownership can be a hassle. Most people will - yet the vast majority of households still prefer ownership with its hassles to the hassles they have without a car of their own.

If you want to develop solutions that stand a chance of actually working, you need to engage with what is being said, not take things out of context so you can pretend your solution will work.

OonaStubbs · 21/02/2026 23:29

We need to install those mechanical parking towers on every street.

suburburban · 21/02/2026 23:30

Ereerenownow · 21/02/2026 12:16

I've had multiple issues with parking in our estate. Sometimes it has been people parking fully on the pathway leading into the estate, completely blocking it, sometimes it's been people parking in the entrance of the estate, preventing the bin wagon getting in so our bins weren't emptied. Now it is some fella who doesn't even live in our estate parking his 3 ginormous work vans and trailers, plus his and his wife's cars all the way down the length of the road into our estate, taking up every available parking space. He is also completely blocking the pathway down the side of his house, forcing everyone to walk down the road. He has been reported numerous times but nothing has been done, even when he was screaming at the elderly people who live nearby who complained they struggled to get to the shops because of the way he parks all his vehicles. The house he bought has absolutely no parking, no garage or driveway. I just can't understand what possessed him to buy that property when he has so many enormous vehicles!!

Yes this shouldn’t be allowed

RawBloomers · 21/02/2026 23:35

BasilPersil · 21/02/2026 20:11

Concreting over front gardens is also awful for urban flood management.

True, but you don't have to concrete. There are porous drive way materials. I know some councils push this quite heavily and make it harder to put in a non-porous one.

PickAChew · 21/02/2026 23:41

Winewolfhywls · 20/02/2026 10:35

In the past people kept cars inside garages too, making it easier to store two cars. Many people have now converted garages into rooms, gyms, or downstairs bathrooms.

In our street there are loads of people who just don't park on their empty drives, it's infuriating

Our house has a garage in the back garden but the driveway was obviously built in the 60s so you might get a vintage mini in it. We might be able to get our car up to it if we made our house 2' narrower 😂

RawBloomers · 21/02/2026 23:45

Flamingojune · 21/02/2026 18:57

So owning a car is diverse now?

Is your reading comprehension truly that shit or is this just a desperate attempt to try and pretend I've said something ridiculous because you haven't got a relevant response?

In any case - No. That's not what I said.

TiggersTheOnlyOne · 21/02/2026 23:56

My estate was built just after the war when very few houses had cars. There is nowhere near enough parking for the numbr of cars. People park on the grass verges and double park and it makes the estate look a mess but there is no other option. It doesn’t help when people have vans which take up additional space along side cars. People get so possessive over the bit of road by their house and have been known to smear windscreens with grease to stop people parking there. I live on a corner as the road in front of my house is a traffic calming chicane and the road to the side it too narrow to park on as it would stop emergency service vehicles being able to get through and I am repeatedly shouted at for parking in front of other people’s houses but there is no choice. Something needs to be done but I don’t know what.

ladyinka · 22/02/2026 00:11

Completely agree with you. But a lot of these issues can be resolved by a properly working, reliable & efficient public transport. This would remove the ‘need’ to own multiple cars in the first place.

This exists in most of developed European countries but unfortunately not in the UK. As it currently stands, our bus services are non-existent (bar a few largest cities), train services are prohibitively expensive and urban cycling routes insufficient.

Long time ago I lived in Switzerland and relied on ‘general abonente’ to get around like most people there. It’s essentially an annual season ticket covering ALL public transport across the ENTIRE country, including busses, trains, trams, mountain funiculars and boats crossing their lakes - pretty much from Davos to Geneva. The cost was a fraction of the prize I now have to spend on my 35mile commute from Kent to London… that’s absolutely bonkers!

fetchacloth · 22/02/2026 00:16

I live about a mile away from a town centre with a large town square which contains a shopping precinct and some coffee bars etc.
The council has just passed planning permission to redevelop the square which will remove some of the shops and build approximately 1600 high rise apartments in their place. There will be no parking provision for these apartments, indeed a nearby multi storey car park is being demolished to make room for these new buildings.
The parking in the town is very restricted, double yellow lines everywhere together with other payable car parks around the town centre , so I'm left wondering where these people think they are going to park their vehicles really. People aren't going to move into the middle of an affluent town centre with no allocated parking provision surely. Time will tell but I predict chaos.