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Limiting MH support to certain cultural areas?

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Mindcultural · 17/02/2026 18:48

I have today received this message below from a mental health support service for young people.

AIBU to think it’s completely wrong to offer support based on cultural diversity and would like to know how they decide who fits this criteria?

Hi,

I’m getting touch as you have recently made a referral to our Youth In Mind services on behalf of a child or young person.

Unfortunately, we are having to reduce the size of the team for funding reasons, so we now only have funding to support young people from culturally diverse communities, if this is relevant for the individual you referred to us, please can I ask that you complete this form forms.office.com and we will be back in touch accordingly.

If we are now no longer able to offer support to the individual you have made a referral for, please accept our apologies for this. Please feel free to keep an eye on our website for updated information regarding available services as we are always looking for new funding opportunities to allow us to reach more children and young people.

Limiting MH support to certain cultural areas?
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nomas · 17/02/2026 23:31

Anonanonnona · 17/02/2026 23:30

How convenient that you never do have to prove any of your claims.

Which claims?

Calculateddecisions · 17/02/2026 23:31

Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 23:25

In England we say EDI, so when people say DEI I tend to think they don’t know their backside from their elbow and are just parroting nonsense from a podcast.

Edited

Who says I am in England but thanks for the lesson. Point still stands no matter how you arrange letters. The initiative adds no value to any country as meritocracy is how a country progresses.

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:32

Greenlawnstennis · 17/02/2026 23:30

Yes DEI (didn't earn it) has caused division.
This is disgraceful.

Much like Britain didn’t earn the wealth it stole from the commonwealth, just stole it.

nearlylovemyusername · 17/02/2026 23:32

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:26

Because her OP was misleading and inaccurate. Typical Reform strategy.

I wouldn't be so blase.

There are only a few active posters on this thread trying to debate the topic. It's silent majority who voted. They will vote again in 3.5 years time and may well vote Reform. I'm terrified of this prospect and will likely emigrate if they win.

OP's post was accurate. Sad, but accurate. Unfortunately your posts only alienated people.

Anonanonnona · 17/02/2026 23:33

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:30

Higher rates of sectioning in black people is due to higher rates of psychosis.

So ten minutes ago you were asking posters if this is correct and now you are stating it as fact without evidence. Go figure.

Have you heard of something called google? I used it and checked.

Rewis · 17/02/2026 23:33

Sometimes for a charity to be more effective has to be more specific. There are charities for certain ethnicities, religions, genders, sexual orientation, ages, diagnoses etc. And many are combo of a few. This charity has now decided to specify to this. Maybe someone can fund a new charity for less ethnically diverse areas? Doesn't sound like white kids can't get mental health help at all.

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:34

nearlylovemyusername · 17/02/2026 23:32

I wouldn't be so blase.

There are only a few active posters on this thread trying to debate the topic. It's silent majority who voted. They will vote again in 3.5 years time and may well vote Reform. I'm terrified of this prospect and will likely emigrate if they win.

OP's post was accurate. Sad, but accurate. Unfortunately your posts only alienated people.

Edited

It’s not my job to be nice to Reform sympathisers. Weird that you think it is.

TempestTost · 17/02/2026 23:34

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:00

So is the project funded specifically to help young white working class boys and their families racist too then?

Very possibly.

If it's saying only white working class boys can access a service which ought to be need based, absolutely.

That seems like a no-brainer, why would you think that was ok?

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:34

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:31

@Anonanonnona is saying you have.

You sound like a child on the playground.

Why don't you read my posts, tell me what I'm claiming, argue against my claims and I'll defend them.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 17/02/2026 23:34

Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 23:25

In England we say EDI, so when people say DEI I tend to think they don’t know their backside from their elbow and are just parroting nonsense from a podcast.

Edited

Depends-where you are in England. It’s definitely DEI where I am.

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:34

Anonanonnona · 17/02/2026 23:33

Have you heard of something called google? I used it and checked.

Well, at least you’re Googling for yourself now and not expecting me and @Allisnotlost1 to do it for you.

Greenlawnstennis · 17/02/2026 23:35

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:32

Much like Britain didn’t earn the wealth it stole from the commonwealth, just stole it.

But at least Britain was capable of bringing riches and culture to the commonwealth. Those places wouldn't have been able to move along without the help and input.

Anonanonnona · 17/02/2026 23:35

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:34

Well, at least you’re Googling for yourself now and not expecting me and @Allisnotlost1 to do it for you.

what googling have I asked you to do?

Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 23:35

Anonanonnona · 17/02/2026 23:33

Have you heard of something called google? I used it and checked.

Your google must be broken, because I put in the exact same phrase and got this

’While research indicates that Black people in the UK have higher rates of being diagnosed with psychosis, studies show that this alone does not fully account for the much higher rates of sectioning (compulsory detention). The disparity is caused by a complex interaction of higher psychosis incidence, societal factors, and bias within the mental health system.’

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:35

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:34

You sound like a child on the playground.

Why don't you read my posts, tell me what I'm claiming, argue against my claims and I'll defend them.

What’s the point, you’ll just say you never saw it and ask me to re-post it.

Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 23:36

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 17/02/2026 23:34

Depends-where you are in England. It’s definitely DEI where I am.

🤷‍♀️ In 15 years I’ve never seen DEI in the UK. It derives from the EA 2010, so always starts with Equality, but yeah anything is possible.

StopWindingBobStopWinding · 17/02/2026 23:36

MrsChristmasHasResigned · 17/02/2026 20:22

While simultaneously proposing policies that will make things even worse.

Well quite! They’ve today announced they want to scrap the Equality Act. The one on which so many of the racists posters on this thread are basing their outrage.

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:36

Greenlawnstennis · 17/02/2026 23:35

But at least Britain was capable of bringing riches and culture to the commonwealth. Those places wouldn't have been able to move along without the help and input.

What riches and culture did we give? We stole their riches, made slavery large scale and left behind division and unrest.

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 17/02/2026 23:37

LovesLabradors · 17/02/2026 19:38

That's terrible OP, YANBU. Especially if it is NHS funded.
What's next? Culturally diverse people jumping the queue at A&E or NHS waiting lists?
It does actually sound a lot like Reform propaganda, but as OP says it came directly from MIND - I would be really concerned - because it is exactly this sort of thing (discriminating against white British people) that is making people vote Reform.
And I live in an area with a Reform council (didn't vote for them) - and believe me, we don't want a Reform government...

Yes, and it raises the question of whether the information put out by Reform is actually ‘propaganda’ or whether it’s just more cases of anti white discrimination as OP describes.

Plenty of PPs on this thread think it is perfectly fine for this charity, partly funded by government grants, fundraising and legacies (from people presumably supporting its charitable aims to support ALL who need m/h help) to discriminate against kids in need of m/h support purely in their skin colour.

Maybe some of those pps work for charities.

nearlylovemyusername · 17/02/2026 23:37

TempestTost · 17/02/2026 23:34

Very possibly.

If it's saying only white working class boys can access a service which ought to be need based, absolutely.

That seems like a no-brainer, why would you think that was ok?

I'm still waiting for an example of only white working class boys can access a service which ought to be need based

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 17/02/2026 23:38

Greenlawnstennis · 17/02/2026 23:35

But at least Britain was capable of bringing riches and culture to the commonwealth. Those places wouldn't have been able to move along without the help and input.

No, the globally dominant manufacturing and economic power that was India definitely wouldn’t have been able to be successful without colonisation. And had zero culture before.

Oh, wait…

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 17/02/2026 23:38

StopWindingBobStopWinding · 17/02/2026 23:36

Well quite! They’ve today announced they want to scrap the Equality Act. The one on which so many of the racists posters on this thread are basing their outrage.

Can you explain how it is ‘racist’ to not want kids discriminated against on grounds of their skin colour?

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:38

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:31

Which claims?

You don't answer questions, you claim not to remember what you've said, you don't read people's posts, you apparently have very little understanding of evidence or logic. I think pp would be wise to stop engaging with you, tbh.

Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 23:39

StopWindingBobStopWinding · 17/02/2026 23:36

Well quite! They’ve today announced they want to scrap the Equality Act. The one on which so many of the racists posters on this thread are basing their outrage.

Then there will only be Diversity and Inclusion, and they’ll hate that.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 17/02/2026 23:39

Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 23:36

🤷‍♀️ In 15 years I’ve never seen DEI in the UK. It derives from the EA 2010, so always starts with Equality, but yeah anything is possible.

Edited

You must work in a very small world then. I’ve seen it both ways but DEI has definitely been the most common. I work for a large company, so not just one person listening to a podcast!

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