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Limiting MH support to certain cultural areas?

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Mindcultural · 17/02/2026 18:48

I have today received this message below from a mental health support service for young people.

AIBU to think it’s completely wrong to offer support based on cultural diversity and would like to know how they decide who fits this criteria?

Hi,

I’m getting touch as you have recently made a referral to our Youth In Mind services on behalf of a child or young person.

Unfortunately, we are having to reduce the size of the team for funding reasons, so we now only have funding to support young people from culturally diverse communities, if this is relevant for the individual you referred to us, please can I ask that you complete this form forms.office.com and we will be back in touch accordingly.

If we are now no longer able to offer support to the individual you have made a referral for, please accept our apologies for this. Please feel free to keep an eye on our website for updated information regarding available services as we are always looking for new funding opportunities to allow us to reach more children and young people.

Limiting MH support to certain cultural areas?
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Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 23:20

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:19

Weren’t you supposed to start frothing about the government funded project to improve educational attainment in young white working class boys and why it’s not for all kids?

Oh god stop, the image of the cucumber and the frothing is just too much.

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:20

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:15

Ah, the sea lioning continues 🤣

Not only are you incapable of Googling it yourself, you now need the same linked posted to you twice in 10 minutes. 😂

Well if it's so important I read this link, kindly send it again. I clearly missed it the first time (assuming it was sent at all.)

And I told you I had been googling. What I couldn't do is find evidence to support your claims. I think that reflects more on you than it does me, tbh.

Miggledyhiggledy · 17/02/2026 23:21

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 17/02/2026 18:57

Wow, that'll feature in a Reform or Restore pamphlet soon.

Bingo!

Calculateddecisions · 17/02/2026 23:23

DJKATIE · 17/02/2026 23:11

I am absolutely disgusted, when will this stop. We have become second rate citizens in our own country if we are white British. I am not nor have ever been racist but to be constantly pushed aside is making me resent people from other cultures.

DEI has done the opposite of what was intended, it has caused division.

The pendulum has swung too far.

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:23

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:17

No, the onus is on her to prove her assumptions, not me. How entitled of you to think otherwise.

No one has to prove their assumptions. That makes no sense.

But if you make a claim, you should be able to support that claim, and defend it when questioned.

For some reason, instead of defending your claims, you pretended I'd said things I hadn't said, and then used this as a basis to shift the discussion onto me and my character, and away from the actual argument.

Dweetfidilove · 17/02/2026 23:24

Str0ganoff · 17/02/2026 19:50

No I’m fine with funding and initiatives being aimed at need.

Maybe the need for that particular fund is to help culturally diverse young people, including those with autism and LGBTQ concerns.

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:24

Anonanonnona · 17/02/2026 23:20

Well then the onus is on you to prove the entire nhs isn’t racist because white people have the lowest life expectancy, since clearly racism is the default reason for any differences between groups.

Edited

Lol why is the onus on me? But here is some bedtime reading for you, as it’s my bedtime now.

One key reason for higher life expectancy among ethnic minorities is the so-called “healthy migrant effect”. There is evidence that migrants tend to be healthier, with lower levels of smoking, alcohol consumption and other risk factors

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/26/life-expectancy-lower-for-white-and-mixed-ethnic-people-than-black-and-asian-groups-study

Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 23:25

Calculateddecisions · 17/02/2026 23:23

DEI has done the opposite of what was intended, it has caused division.

The pendulum has swung too far.

In England we say EDI, so when people say DEI I tend to think they don’t know their backside from their elbow and are just parroting nonsense from a podcast.

nearlylovemyusername · 17/02/2026 23:25

Interesting, 680 people voted and 91% agree with OP

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:25

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:20

Well if it's so important I read this link, kindly send it again. I clearly missed it the first time (assuming it was sent at all.)

And I told you I had been googling. What I couldn't do is find evidence to support your claims. I think that reflects more on you than it does me, tbh.

Genuine question, why can’t you just scroll up? It’s only a few posts up.

Anyway, bedtime.

Miggledyhiggledy · 17/02/2026 23:26

Calculateddecisions · 17/02/2026 23:23

DEI has done the opposite of what was intended, it has caused division.

The pendulum has swung too far.

Yes and aided by self loathing white Brits.

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:26

nearlylovemyusername · 17/02/2026 23:25

Interesting, 680 people voted and 91% agree with OP

Because her OP was misleading and inaccurate. Typical Reform strategy.

Ivelostmyglasses · 17/02/2026 23:27

They will have had additional funding to support people who do not normally access mental health services. This is really common and makes perfect sense. They will either have used up all their generic funding or not had it continue.
For everyone getting their racist knickers in a twist culturally diverse means more than just race, for example it can mean disability. It could be children of disabled veterans.

Summerhillsquare · 17/02/2026 23:28

This is a really bad faith post @Mindcultural

Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 23:28

nearlylovemyusername · 17/02/2026 23:25

Interesting, 680 people voted and 91% agree with OP

Which tells you people don’t bother to look into anything, just take it at face value. I should have gone into the bridge selling business.

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:28

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:25

Genuine question, why can’t you just scroll up? It’s only a few posts up.

Anyway, bedtime.

Genuine question: are you lying about having sent a link?

Anonanonnona · 17/02/2026 23:28

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:24

Lol why is the onus on me? But here is some bedtime reading for you, as it’s my bedtime now.

One key reason for higher life expectancy among ethnic minorities is the so-called “healthy migrant effect”. There is evidence that migrants tend to be healthier, with lower levels of smoking, alcohol consumption and other risk factors

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/26/life-expectancy-lower-for-white-and-mixed-ethnic-people-than-black-and-asian-groups-study

You don’t seem to understand that this was my point. I DON’T think the NHS is racist against white people. Not all differences between groups are due to racism.

Higher rates of sectioning in black people is due to higher rates of psychosis. Higher rates of psychosis are found in those living in cities (as more ethnic minorities do), amongst various other reasons the rate could be higher. Why do we jump to racism one way but not the other?

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:28

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:23

No one has to prove their assumptions. That makes no sense.

But if you make a claim, you should be able to support that claim, and defend it when questioned.

For some reason, instead of defending your claims, you pretended I'd said things I hadn't said, and then used this as a basis to shift the discussion onto me and my character, and away from the actual argument.

Did you miss where she is asking me to disprove your claims, instead of asking you to prove your claims?

TempestTost · 17/02/2026 23:29

Allisnotlost1 · 17/02/2026 22:59

This is an interesting piece of data, and I do know some people who are working on it. The problem is that the findings comes from a specific time period and isn’t borne out in later published data, so it’s hard to investigate. Suicide also much more common among white men than other ethnicities. The world is complex and that’s why we can’t treat all people the same. But it’s still the case that access and experience is worse for people of some (not all) ‘not white’ ethnicities.

Which people? By which I mean, which individuals?

It is individuals who access services. You can't assume that any individual has the same experiences that their group has when you look at statistical data.

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:30

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:28

Did you miss where she is asking me to disprove your claims, instead of asking you to prove your claims?

I haven't made any claims.

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:30

Anonanonnona · 17/02/2026 23:28

You don’t seem to understand that this was my point. I DON’T think the NHS is racist against white people. Not all differences between groups are due to racism.

Higher rates of sectioning in black people is due to higher rates of psychosis. Higher rates of psychosis are found in those living in cities (as more ethnic minorities do), amongst various other reasons the rate could be higher. Why do we jump to racism one way but not the other?

Higher rates of sectioning in black people is due to higher rates of psychosis.

So ten minutes ago you were asking posters if this is correct and now you are stating it as fact without evidence. Go figure.

Anonanonnona · 17/02/2026 23:30

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:28

Did you miss where she is asking me to disprove your claims, instead of asking you to prove your claims?

How convenient that you never do have to prove any of your claims.

Greenlawnstennis · 17/02/2026 23:30

Yes DEI (didn't earn it) has caused division.
This is disgraceful.

sussexman · 17/02/2026 23:30

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:26

Because her OP was misleading and inaccurate. Typical Reform strategy.

Well, Reform has said they want to abolish the Equalities Act, meaning that no claim against Leeds Mind could be made for this sort of policy.

nomas · 17/02/2026 23:31

wrongthinker · 17/02/2026 23:30

I haven't made any claims.

@Anonanonnona is saying you have.

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