Unfriending right wing friends

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One of my school mum friends of around 10 years has started sharing loads of Restore Britain/Rupert Lowe posts.

I’m actually really shocked as she’s an Irish immigrant herself.

I’ve unfriended her which is a shame as day to day she’s ok. Also another mum who has been liking and commenting on the Restore Britain posts, they’ll probably tell me they’re not racist but I can’t be arsed calling them out.

There's no issue with people receiving benefits either, surely? Most of us will in the form of the state pension or child benefit.

As far as I'm concerned, if I've paid taxes, I'm entitled to claim some of those back if I experience difficulties, and I'm happy for others to do so too. It's not like £97 per week JSA is going to buy anyone a yacht.

If she doesn’t know where they live how does she know they are not from nearby hotel accommodating men claiming asylum?

Unfriending someone for their political ideology is not fascism! (And I speak as someone who usually doesn't.)

Do you think unfriending someone on Facebook is exactty ths same thing as putting them in a concentration camp, imprisoning then without trial, or gunning them down in the street?

Labour say they have now dropped them but Labour say a lot of things - not all are true.

If they are now stopped, that’s a positive but it was happening, is likely to have been included in the trafficking gangs marketing and gas cost the taxpayer a lot of money.

Oh you know the people who constantly tell you in the playground how private schools are wrong, it isn't fair how some people have more than others, private healthcare is fine, companies shoukd be renationalised, etc. Ramming their political views down everyone's throats ad nauseum which is fine, providing they respect the views of others and engage in open dialogue.

When we transferred our son to the independent sector a particularly evangelical mother told me how she and her dh would never do that because they had principles. This was a couple so wealthy that neither worked, admittedly funds were tight but not so tight they didn't own a house in zone 2 London.

You tell me. Putting somebody in a concentration camp.is always equated with nazism and fascism by the left. Ring any bells with you?

How bad this thread has become
Person unfriended someone for having views they dont like
= major kick off of insults of facism lefties far right etc
Astounding

I have a feeling that no matter what Labour say you'd not believe them.

Yes, because u turn Starmer has delivered consistency hasn't he?

I have no idea what you are talking about or why it is relevant. I’m talking about people who are lumping all asylum seekers in together and making assumptions about them based on a false premise.

It is patently incorrect to assume all people tho turn up on small boats have fled for their lives and no one can guarantee there are not criminals and terrorists among them. We’ve already discovered some at a cost of British lives. How many are we happy to allow in?

*Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. There's not rule for one set of people and another for another set.

The woman featured in the article was a deputy sheriff - on duty at the time of her social media comments.

I guess there have been a few incidents where immigrants have attacked medical staff in hospitals so maybe it’s safer to avoid them having to queue - I hope they have protection.

You are mixing things up and getting confused.

Of course there are crimes in the EU, nobody as said otherwise and nothing is 100% foolproof remember.
BUT, they are not all committed by people who already have a record as already mentioned and without a criminal record how do you predict?

We are no longer privy to those who do actually have a record as found out by another EU country, or who are considered a threat, whereas the ones in the EU who share information, fingerprints and track illegal immigrants etc do. I presume those ones are then not granted asylum and are removed quite fast and if a person tries again in the EU, the information is there. The information as far as I am aware is digital and quick.

We now have to rely on finding out each and every asylum seeker from scratch, we only have slow and not very good interpol really and our own methods. So, even if they had already been refused in another country because of criminal background (or whatever reason they are failed asylum seekers), we don't know. Adding to the backlog of a year or so waiting, allowing people to roam our streets freely while they wait and of course, the cost of hotels etc with that backlog keeps mounting.

Losing access to this information of Eurodac and SIS II because of brexit has hurt us, not just because of immigrants but many other types of criminals. If you don't believe me, please go read. It's one of the things Starmer tried very much to get access to again in the EU with good reason, but they refused. It would've helped massively with the backlog of cases that they inherited. Sharing information on criminals, not just immigration related too has stopped for the most part, leaving the UK more vulnerable too.

No worse than any other political party tbh. Or other parties have just ignored the issue in hand, much like tories couldn't care about the cost spent of taxis.

At last I can agree with this.

We wouldn’t be talking about the same people though.

Yes, benefits for which some of us have worked and contributed towards and the ones you have mentioned are universal. I have no issue with people who need help: I have concerns about people who could work but don't.

Yet Reform are held to a much higher standard and aren't even in power - yet.

Nice side-step.

I don’t think that is the current definition of the word ‘fascist’.

People get accused of fascism for wanting to have a conversation about who we are letting into the country. People get accused of being racist for the same reason.

I notice a common theme among some where the meanings of words are very ‘elastic’ to be flexed at will.

I think you know all about side stepping, or is that the okey cokey that seems to be your preferred dance?

Well, it is fascism (or sometimes other forms of extremism such as Stalinism) to put people in concentration camps!

But unfriending people on Facebook is not the same thing.

@Abhannmor there are plenty of people in this country and around the world who want abortion banned. Those people are entitled to their views but that doesn't mean it will happen

True.

Having a PM who lies and a government that withholds information and is more worried about ‘narrative management’ than making the right decision will do that to a person.

Are you suggesting you believe everything they say?

I think Anne Frank would disagree with you. What a marvellous courageous young lady that was. Sharing her journal of her family's fight against fascism. If only she could see the world now. I don't think it would be Nigel Farage knocking on her door but his objectors would certainly be at the front of the queue in trying to quiten her.

People who are worried about Islamism (and I agree that Islamism is very right wing in itself!) and the dangers that it poses to secularism: are you also worried about the influence of the American Christian Right on our politics and on the world? Because surely ALL theocracy is dangerous?