Reform wants women barefoot and pregnant

[Sweetiedarling7]

Reform candidate Matt Goodwin wants women to have children early in life and introduce extra taxes as punishment for anyone who chooses not to have children.

Misogyny in plain sight.

How long till they ban abortion too?

Women voting Reform may want to consider if they are turkeys voting for christmas.

Reform has already tried (and failed) a UK style DOGE

They certainly are inspired by MAGA and project 2025

I don't need to argue. A picture tells a thousand words.

Well lets see what their manifesto says. Im looking forward to a bit of "evangelical Protestantism politics" actually rather than the lefty guff the former Archbishop of C spouted. Although I seriously doubt many people will suddenly spend their Sunday mornings in Church so I think you may be worrying over nothing?

It does if Reform does nothing to make childcare more affordable - and they have said nothing about making childcare more affordable.

Fact-checking Farage: Are foreigners more likely than Britons to commit sexual offences?

Nigel Farage says "an Afghan male has a 22 times more likely chance of being convicted of rape than somebody born in this country". Sky News's data and forensics unit has looked at the data.

Our analysis, informed by advice given to us by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), the Home Office, and Oxford University's Migration Observatory, shows there is likely a significant difference in offending rates among Afghans compared with Britons - but most likely not to the extent described by Mr Farage.

Our estimates conclude that Afghans are closer to three times more likely to be convicted of a sexual offence than someone born in the UK, rather than 22 times.

https://news.sky.com/story/fact-checking-farage-are-foreigners-more-likely-than-britons-to-commit-sexual-offences-13407029

Half of all British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal, poll finds

Extensive polling conducted by ICM suggests that in most cases attitudes held by the British Muslim population do not broadly differ from those held by the population at large, but there are significant differences when it comes to some issues such as homosexuality and women’s rights.

Trevor Phillips, the former head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said the findings were “extremely worrying” as they suggested on many issues Muslims were “a nation within a nation”.

When asked to what extent they agreed or disagreed that homosexuality should be legal in Britain, 18% said they agreed and 52% said they disagreed, compared with 5% among the public at large who disagreed.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

OMG this friendship is news to me!!! Did anyone else know about this huge piece of gossip???

And yet Reform still lead the polls....

You didn't answer the question.

Is a mother who doesn't pay income tax going to be better or worse off? Does being worse off make it easier to pay for childcare?

James Orr has been appointed as a senior advisor to Reform. Read about him and his views in the link below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Orr_(philosopher)

Orr opposes abortion in all circumstances and considers Charles Kirk a friend.

See the links that are there. Values matter.

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Yes, I can tell you are considering your slavish devotion to the latest Reform bilge!

@GaIadriel There's doing things out of duty and then there's choosing your friends.

It depends.

A mother who doesn't pay income tax and yet is able to work (and afford childcare) is likely to be very high earning already. So yes, she will be better off.

But a mother on a lower wage who will still not be able to afford childcare if she has more than one child will not qualify for the tax break and so will not be better off, nor will she be able to afford more children whether or not she wants them.

So this is an idea that will disproportionately benefit higher earners, not those who need the break most.

The other model is that the mother in question steps out of the workplace - in which case she doesn't pay for childcare, but also pays no income tax so doesn't qualify for the tax brea. She is dependent on a man's income, with all the vulnerabilities that brings. And if her other half skedaddles with a younger version, she is 100% worse off.

The only people who win in this scenario are highly paid women of more than two children. If you're happy targeting just that demographic, carry on - but it seems upside down to me.

And P2026 is much worse.

Can you provide a link to the interview where he said these things were reform policy?

Don't be so disingenuous.

Not at all. I dont vote Reform. I just dont think it helpful to give a false narrative of what they are actually proposing. Because it means you are an unreliable narrator and no one will listen to you or think you talk any sense.

I dislike Trump, Farage, and all of those right wing knobs. I also find whinging lefties/the woke to be extremely frustrating. They just bitch about everything and everyone without offering any real solutions and drive people to the right.

They brand people racists for worrying about uncontrolled immigration despite events like 1200 German women being assaulted in one evening by middle eastern immigrants, the fact that we know Islam is often terrible for women's/gay rights, and the fact that there seems to be pretty solid data suggesting many of these male immigrants are much more likely to commit a sex crime upon reaching than UK.

And when sex crimes rocket they'll no doubt blame it on the patriarchy and hold all men responsible, including the men they called racists for trying to nip the issue in the bud. 🤦

Although limitations to the data, which we will explain later on, mean that it is not currently possible to make a fully accurate conclusion.

Thanks for showing more Farage lies

God, they really do hate women, don't they?

As I have illustrated in the link above, Reform have chosen an advisor who has links to the Christian right in the US. Their views and values are not those that centre women's reproductive freedom. It is naive to ignore such links.

Sure.
Female Reform voter here.

One of the recurring themes on these threads is that those who defend Reform repeatedly insist they don't/won't vote for them. Funny that.

No. Its just the hyperbole in politics is completely out of hand. How does anyone know what a party is actually honestly proposing when people come on here spouting absolute gibberish. Its really irritating and unhelpful. Why cant we all just stick to facts rather than exaggerating and putting our own (often mental) spin on things.

Reform is a good example where people cant seem to talk about them without calling them racists who support Hitler. And because these people cant stick to the facts no one can actually judge what Reform are suggesting. What if a party started going up the polls who did actually support Hitler. The Boy who Cried Wolf still resonates here.

It’s biologically better to have dc younger, we all know this but life doesn’t always work to plan. I had mine at 24 and 26 so neither a teen mother nor pushing 50 and I’m a higher rate tax payer, master’s educated, still happily married to their father and have never claimed benefits in my life so don’t recognise this idea of impoverished young mothers either abandoned by or stuck with their cheating DHs. It isn’t either or, you make your life work as best you can.

We can mostly agree that we need more babies being born in this country but I think the way to achieve this is to make a more hospitable environment for them to be born into, helping with subsidised childcare for example. Humans as a rule want to reproduce but they won’t if the circumstances are overly unfavourable to parenthood. More carrot, less stick please.

Agreed OP.

They'd have Black people back out on the plantations picking cotton too - if they could only get away with it.

I hate fascists.