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tartyflette · 14/02/2026 13:44

MO0N · 14/02/2026 13:34

I would think that reform voters are the type to be of the "why should I pay tax for schools when I don't have any children" view. The idea that those without children should pay more tax ... well that will go down like a cup of cold sick surely?

It used to be those who worked in factories or as refuse collectors etc were happy to see their taxes go towards supporting students who were training to be be medics, teachers etc, recognising that we will all eventually benefit.

I think that attìtude has well and truly vanished.

Echobelly · 14/02/2026 13:44

MO0N · 14/02/2026 13:37

I think it's the case that no policies implemented by governments to incentivize child bearing have been successful. I can't see this being any different.
I think governments will end up having to offer women a full-time wage in return for being a stay at home mother. Even then many women will feel they can have a more interesting and fulfilling life if they have a career that isnt being a stay at home mother.

I think the best solutions might be compulsory lessons for boys from age 6 about how to notice when people need help or domestic stuff needs dealing with, and proactively doing something about it.

I'm joking... mostly.... I think.

Allisnotlost1 · 14/02/2026 13:46

ParmaVioletTea · 14/02/2026 13:27

At what agge did Dr Goodwin have children?

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39 or 40. He has one child and is separated from his wife. Who would not benefit from his ‘tax break’ because she does t have sufficient children.

Livelovebehappy · 14/02/2026 13:52

StandFirm · 14/02/2026 10:52

Has he been told off by the party's senior leaders? No. Why is Nige not making noise to that effect? Because he is voicing what the party wants. Simple. If you don't want a Christian nationalist patriarchy in power, do not vote Reform.

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Like i said, maybe he has been reprimanded and maybe the leaders just haven't done it publicly which, let's be honest, doesn't always work well when other parties do that. It just causes more media drama. Surely best to just stay schtum and say what needs to be said in private and carry on. He has an opinion, voiced it, but we have nothing in the public domain to suggest Farage agrees with it or not. And ultimately its his opinion that's going to count.

SapphireSeptember · 14/02/2026 13:53

Fucking hell. I didn't have DS until I was 35, I didn't really want kids until I was 34, I wouldn't have been ready in my 20s.

Allisnotlost1 · 14/02/2026 13:55

Livelovebehappy · 14/02/2026 13:52

Like i said, maybe he has been reprimanded and maybe the leaders just haven't done it publicly which, let's be honest, doesn't always work well when other parties do that. It just causes more media drama. Surely best to just stay schtum and say what needs to be said in private and carry on. He has an opinion, voiced it, but we have nothing in the public domain to suggest Farage agrees with it or not. And ultimately its his opinion that's going to count.

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So Starmer is ‘toothless’ but Farage not calling out Goodwin might just means he’s decided to keep it behind closed doors? No prizes for guessing who’s caught your eye then.

usedtobeaylis · 14/02/2026 13:56

Mental that anyone is voting for these cunts.

SleepQuest33 · 14/02/2026 13:56

I had my kids at 32 and 34, best ages in my opinion. Not too young not too old.

pointythings · 14/02/2026 13:57

ThankYouNigel · 14/02/2026 10:53

I’m speaking up for women who are priced out of having children, having to wait too long because of that, or who are unable to have as many as they’d like.

Where I live, lovely couples who both work are living in cramped housing where their only child who is 5 still has to share a room with mum and dad. That is wrong, they are doing the right things. They should be able to afford a bigger house and more children, which they’d love to.

There has been too great an emphasis on individualism and not enough on family for far, far too long. I’m excited for change!

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The way you change that is not by telling young women to have children early - because if they do that, they still will not have affordable housing and affordable childcare.

Reform want to magic women back into the home but are not prepared to invest in the things that will encourage larger families: affordable housing (so build genuine council houses and keep improving renters' rights), affordable transport (so invest in public transport), good healthcare (so maybe don't abolish the NHS, guys), and affordable childcare (subsidise it and watch fmailies grow).

All they have is magical thinking founded in oppressive anti-woman ideology. And if you're falling for it, well...

exse24Londoner · 14/02/2026 13:57

ParmaVioletTea · 14/02/2026 13:27

At what agge did Dr Goodwin have children?

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I was under the impression that this applies to women & so it doesn't matter how old HE was

SapphireSeptember · 14/02/2026 13:58

SusanChurchouse · 14/02/2026 08:56

Cheaper housing would solve a lot of issues. The reason my parents were able to have children in their 20s was due to having an affordable rented home, which they then exchanged as their family grew.

Reform do want to remove worker protections which often help those with caring responsibilities, mainly women. So that will remove women from the workforce. They are both hateful and clueless, a worrying combination.

That's one of the things I'm most worried about, we have decent workers' rights at the moment. I don't want to lose those.

exse24Londoner · 14/02/2026 13:58

usedtobeaylis · 14/02/2026 13:56

Mental that anyone is voting for these cunts.

try having this conversation on Facebook or Nextdoor - they soon come out with their flags waving

ParmaVioletTea · 14/02/2026 13:58

Echobelly · 14/02/2026 13:44

I think the best solutions might be compulsory lessons for boys from age 6 about how to notice when people need help or domestic stuff needs dealing with, and proactively doing something about it.

I'm joking... mostly.... I think.

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You get my vote @Echobelly !

Allisnotlost1 · 14/02/2026 13:59

Dragonfruitini · 14/02/2026 13:26

No my original point was just that I don’t consider twenties young because I had my first at 16 so having my second at 24 felt really old, to me personally. Then someone asked how I supported myself, I think when you have your first kid as young as I did people assume your parents did everything for you, but not in my case.
I was very mature for my age it’s not for most people

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I understand. But objectively you know that 24 isn’t old, right? It’s below average age. That doesn’t make it right or wrong, and I think most people on the thread who are opposed to women being told to have children at any age are pro women doing what they choose to do, at any given age.

usedtobeaylis · 14/02/2026 13:59

SleepQuest33 · 14/02/2026 13:56

I had my kids at 32 and 34, best ages in my opinion. Not too young not too old.

I had mine at 35 and I wouldn't have been half the mother I am now if I'd had her younger. I would have made the same mistakes as my parents. I know that for a fact.

MO0N · 14/02/2026 14:05

When you have the health vitality and energy to be the best parent you don't have the maturity and the money to be the best parent.
When you do have the maturity and the money, you don't have the health, vitality and energy.
Catch 22.

chocciechocface · 14/02/2026 14:06

Thisseasonsdiamante · 14/02/2026 08:11

I had children in my twenties and early thirties and I do think it is the right time to be having children biologically. It is still much later than previous generations on average. So I definitely would like to see policies enabling this.

I also think both parents should get a years leave each in their children’s first two years, mothers year 1 and fathers year 2 so children are with both parents in early years Housing and living costs and policies should broadly support this. That’s who I would vote for.

I had my children in my early forties and I do think it was the right time to have them. If I’d had them in my twenties I wouldn’t have been able to put a roof over their heads, or be present at all because I’d have been working multiple jobs to get by.

Who is more correct? You or me?

randomchap · 14/02/2026 14:06

Women having more children will also improve profits for the private companies he'll sell the nhs to too.

A win for the disaster capitalists

charliehungerford · 14/02/2026 14:09

Yewoo · 14/02/2026 12:57

DH and I are in the sort of jobs that, 30 or 40 years ago, as a married couple would have allowed us a detached house and probably private education for our 2 kids. Instead now, we live in a slightly dilapidated 3 bed semi, trying to get the money together each month to pay for childcare, COL and for the various professional exams we couldn’t get done before having kids, as we decided to have them relatively young (30 and 32). Meanwhile, friends who decided to try and get through all the ‘huge costs’ of their 20s and 30s first (university, buying a house, professional exams etc) are now rounding on 35+ and staring down the barrel of the gun of reducing fertility. It is literally impossible for couples under the age of 40 at the moment to seemingly do the right thing.

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Yes, that’s exactly the issue. And quite a few of those 35/40 year olds are now deciding not to bother having children. They have a good life, and often good careers that they’ve worked so hard for, and they are not going to give it all up to struggle through years of expensive child care and little support from the government. There is also the issue of of family support, so many people now have to move away for work, grandparents are no longer around the corner, or even in the same city, so can’t help out. I’ve been there and it was tough. Left us in debt that took us until our 50’s to sort out and become financially stable. It’s a mess that’s been brewing for years and no government of any colour seems to have any idea on how to deal with it.

DiySteve · 14/02/2026 14:10

Sweetiedarling7 · 14/02/2026 07:57

Reform candidate Matt Goodwin wants women to have children early in life and introduce extra taxes as punishment for anyone who chooses not to have children.

Misogyny in plain sight.

How long till they ban abortion too?

Women voting Reform may want to consider if they are turkeys voting for christmas.

What’s your view on Labour’s relationship with women, please?

MoFadaCromulent · 14/02/2026 14:11

The right are such nanny state snowflakes it's ridiculous

bestcatlife · 14/02/2026 14:11

There aren’t enough jobs and houses for all these new people being born.. no political party seems to want to address this 🤷‍♀️

GaIadriel · 14/02/2026 14:12

Reform candidate Matt Goodwin wants women to have children early in life and introduce extra taxes as punishment for anyone who chooses not to have children.

Having googled this assertion it seems not to be true.

He isn't wanting to introduce extra taxes at all. He's suggested removing income tax for women with two or more children to help improve the birthrate, which could arguably also address the issue whereby women have to choose between motherhood and financial independence.

I'm far from a Reform supporter but why do people have to twist the truth and lie so much nowadays? There are plenty of valid reasons to dislike Reform and it just makes people look disingenuous when they make stuff up to support an agenda.

RedRiverShore6 · 14/02/2026 14:12

exse24Londoner · 14/02/2026 13:57

I was under the impression that this applies to women & so it doesn't matter how old HE was

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The article said people

ParmaVioletTea · 14/02/2026 14:13

DiySteve · 14/02/2026 14:10

What’s your view on Labour’s relationship with women, please?

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Well, Labour aren't clear about what a woman actually is, so I doubt they could force women to pay more tax if we haven't reproduced, because, you know, how can they tell which ones of us are women?

But that's no reason to lurch towards a party that tolerates anti-semites, and whose leader's vision for the NHS is for it to become a cut-price second-rate service for society's losers who can't afford anything better.