Reform wants women barefoot and pregnant

[Sweetiedarling7]

Reform candidate Matt Goodwin wants women to have children early in life and introduce extra taxes as punishment for anyone who chooses not to have children.

Misogyny in plain sight.

How long till they ban abortion too?

Women voting Reform may want to consider if they are turkeys voting for christmas.

That said, I know Kirstie Allsopp got it in the neck for saying women should have kids in their 20s but it is the ideal time biologically, even if it isn't societally.

Can you explain your 98% from immigration argument?

Christianity is an evangelical religion.

About 5% of people in the UK go to church.

And any woman voting for the Gaza Independents. Sectarian politics wouldn't go well for women.

Thing is though, a falling birth rate doesn’t just turn off the tap. It also means people who already exist will likely die younger, due to a lack of both tax revenue to pay for services and physically capable people to provide care. That’s the hard reset we are heading towards right now.

Men's sperm also has a best before date. Perhaps Matt Goodwin could focus on encouraging men to be better partners and fathers.

That is true actually. The growth in population in the first half of 2024 was 755,000 (second largest rise for 75 years) 98% of which was due to immigration.

2021-2024 - 2.3million immigrants . National net population was level.

In fairness, at least many of them are in plain sight now. At least it makes them easier to avoid.

I think late 20s is probably ideal. The brain isn't even fully developed until age 25.

"Reform are concerned about the UK population increase ( 98% from immigration)"
please could you evidence this statement? at the moment it looks like unsubstantiated nonsense designed to only provoke & for clicks

Its from official statistics so is fact. Extraordinary really.

They want lots of young children, if you look at our demographics we are a stage 4 country and we need more youngsters to help prop in taxes the older generation / healthcare / pensions / anything tax related and spend. We need more work age people to pay taxes. Possibly why working immigrants can help.

How much more pressure do young people need, currently they need to

1. get all the good grades in education
2. get a degree or an amazing apprenticeship
3. get a good job that pays enough to afford a small flat
4. while doing all this meet a very suitable partner, get married and have kids (hope stress of 1,2 and 3 don’t ruin it all. Hope flat can accommodate new family. Cost of wedding even a simple one to be sidelined for now. Reason many are unmarried.
5. keep climbing career ladder if only to get payrise to afford horrendous living costs let alone childcare costs.

Shocker, most people want to settle down and have a family just so many coats are against them, how about helping out with all that and everything else will come. Not all men / women want to palm off their children to childcare or at least have a hybrid system that is fair to people that cannot have children or choose not to for whatever personal reason they may not want to share.

Free childcare that is very good and not 6th Formers on their phones (I know not all do, but have seen a few), or people that don’t give a toss but well paid people really passionate about good care and decent ratios not just 30 kids and 2 adults, but space, outdoors, invigorating small groups, happy contented children in communities. Just a thought.

So the right have been moaning incessantly about higher taxes driving net contributors out of the country, but are now fully supportive of slapping higher taxes on childless people (who are statistically more likely to be net contributors)?

You lot really need to make up your minds on shit cause it's exhausting trying to keep track of your hypocrisy on every single topic.

It's from net migration which is now falling.

And each UK nation would experience population decline without future net migration

The turnout for our local councillor by-election was extremely low - only 22%. Historically, this area used to vote Labour.

First place was SNP; second was Reform. Reform have been running on a "Stop the SNP" ticket.

Yes Labour need to get immigration properly under control. I think legal migration has responded to the Conservatives measures. Illegal migration is still a problem.

Obviously it will also depend if Keir stays as PM or we get someone more left wing who doesnt approve of the Home Secretary's current approach.

Overall is population decline a bad thing? We are nearing 70 million and its putting huge pressure on the country. We probably need to be looking at getting more people already here back into/into work, such as graduates, who seem to be having a bad time with the flat jobs market.

extraordinary indeed......... unbelievable

Population decline is a bad thing if it’s largely made up of a drop in working aged people (either through a lack of births or a lack of immigration) without a corresponding drop in those requiring the system working aged people pay into.

Stop the SNP ticket means what?

Has it never occurred to you that we are single and childless due to financial burden? I can barely afford to feed myself so supporting a child or partner is out of the question yet the likes of you who can afford to support a whole family want to see people like me taxed?
Get a grip.

They said that neither the Tories nor Labour could stop the SNP from being elected and that only Reform could succeed in ousting them from first place - that was their main campaigning point.

There won’t be a link, he didn’t actually say that women who don’t have children would be taxed more, he was looking at ways of incentivising women to have children by reducing their taxes. A similar system now exists in Hungary. As a society We need have more children, our birth rate is in decline and people are living into their late eighties and nineties, it’s not sustainable. With high rents, exorbitant property prices, massive student debts and stagnant wages, many of those in the 25-35 age groups can’t afford kids. My daughter got married a few years ago, we were talking about having children at the wedding, she said is wasn’t an issue as at the time none of the guests, mainly young people the 28-40 age group had children, none of them. That would have been unthinkable thirty years ago.

Oh right thanks - seems bold!

Assuming then that none of you do or will claim state pension, child benefit, send your children to state school, use the NHS or any other public services?

I have older DC but today's reality for some is what you are arguing. Again, they are not a progressive party as all their solutions are based upon a return to the 1950s!