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To manipulate my mother…

72 replies

MarianaMonterey · 13/02/2026 12:52

Well, it feels like it. Am I?

My mother is a very ‘hard’ person. She believes you should put yourself first in life and has somewhat performatively done so. OK, that’s her right. But then also she expects to be treated the same as other mums/granny’s who have been there for their families, and is offended that I don’t. She doesn’t seem to get that she can’t have it both ways.

Lately she’s adopted quite a ‘boomer’ attitude and her idea of her ‘rights’ at the expense of other people’s have become rude and entitled. She’s developed an almost paranoid need for complete autonomy that is verging on controlling at times.

She lives abroad and wants to sell her house here. I would like to buy it. I expect to pay market value, but she is being very evasive about what the specialist valuation is. I suspect she is overvaluing it in her head (it’s a very non-standard property and needs a lot of work) or she doesn’t want me to buy it (she seems to have taken against my partner, and he’s done lots there for her. I think that’s why she’s being so odd over it) She is not planning to declare tax in either country. She is minimising or discounting real problems with it. She is over-playing work she has had done. She is ‘forgetting’ work I have done over the years. She’s described a very generous offer for just the derelict ‘orchard’ by a neighbour as ‘taking the piss’ (and it’s absolutely not!).

Of course, she can just say no and sell to the highest bidder. She doesn’t owe me anything. But given her general approach, I’m thinking about framing my request to buy it in terms of tax advantage (or any other way I can think of to sway her). I believe she would, in my shoes. I do not expect her to sell to me for less than it’s worth (although if the positions were reversed I would take a bit off for family). I’m pretty confident no one else will pay it either. I’ve my own timeline to work to, though, so I don’t want to be kept hanging for a few years while she figures it out in her somewhat arrogant way and it seems like she would.

Am I being unreasonable to be selective in how I frame my offer? Or is it manipulative and I should just offer as I would a stranger, be upfront about my reasons and reservations as I would with family and then walk away if she wants to keep playing controlling games rather than join in? I don’t usually - she isn’t hard up and I’m definitely not trying to con her. But I feel like I am. Am I overthinking this?

OP posts:
ShetlandishMum · 13/02/2026 12:58

I wouldn't put in an offer. No way I would deal with her. I would run and leave her to it.

If it's very important for you to buy I would set up an attorney to act on your behalf without your mother knowing.

Shinyandnew1 · 13/02/2026 13:04

I would buy a different house and not enter into any financial wrangling with someone like this-I think you are asking for trouble!

takealettermsjones · 13/02/2026 13:05

If she's as awful and selfish as you say then I don't know why you would take the risk with your money like that. She could lead you down the garden path and then pull out, and you'd be out of pocket.

I don't know what you mean about tax advantage. Would there be a tax advantage? If so then it's not a manipulation is it? If not, why would she believe you? Surely she will get her own advice on the sale.

Paganpentacle · 13/02/2026 13:06

How about you get it valued ?

ToKittyornottoKitty · 13/02/2026 13:08

I would just buy a different house, unless you love the drama?

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 13/02/2026 13:09

I would just buy another house and avoid the drama. Why are you entertaining it? There are plenty of houses out there without this nonsense.

2dogsandabudgie · 13/02/2026 13:10

What's a boomer attitude?

HeisseWeisseSchokolade · 13/02/2026 13:13

Presumably OP has her reasons for wanting this particular house - sentimental memories from childhood, proximity, whatever? If so she should do what she needs to smooth the path towards buying in - I don't see her proposing to do anything unethical. Especially since her mother is clearly playing some stupid mind games.

3of5 · 13/02/2026 13:13

I would buy a different house - I would be concerned that my parent would still see it as “their house” and dispute/complain/make life hell for me every time I made a change.. (or maybe they would feel entitled to treat the property as their own and demand access)

ShetlandishMum · 13/02/2026 13:16

HeisseWeisseSchokolade · 13/02/2026 13:13

Presumably OP has her reasons for wanting this particular house - sentimental memories from childhood, proximity, whatever? If so she should do what she needs to smooth the path towards buying in - I don't see her proposing to do anything unethical. Especially since her mother is clearly playing some stupid mind games.

Not a all she is - but her mother will hurt her feelings and expect much much more than it's worth. I wouldn't touch it.

5128gap · 13/02/2026 13:24

I don't really understand the question? Are you asking if you should lie/trick your mum into selling to you pretending its advantageous to her, and that you have a moral free pass because she's a selfish 'boomer'?
Or simply whether you should point out aspects of selling to you that are genuinely to her advantage?
If it's the first, that's between you and your conscience, but what makes you think she'd fall for it if she's that self interested and savvy? If it's the second, why on earth would you not?

MarianaMonterey · 13/02/2026 13:27

2dogsandabudgie · 13/02/2026 13:10

What's a boomer attitude?

From google AI. Plus a smattering of racism, ableism etc etc. (Except for the bit about difficult feelings. Those she airs in abundance ‘because it makes her feel better’ she does not allow anyone else that privilege. And not just venting - verbal abuse lately)

To manipulate my mother…
OP posts:
GoldbergVariations · 13/02/2026 13:29

You sound quite vile. I'd work on your own attitude if I were you.

ShetlandishMum · 13/02/2026 13:33

MarianaMonterey · 13/02/2026 13:27

From google AI. Plus a smattering of racism, ableism etc etc. (Except for the bit about difficult feelings. Those she airs in abundance ‘because it makes her feel better’ she does not allow anyone else that privilege. And not just venting - verbal abuse lately)

How come you think you will be able to work out a fair deal if you describe your mother like this? You won't if you offer to buy. If you want to buy don't deal with her leave it to an attorney.

Mydoglovescheese · 13/02/2026 13:35

You lost my sympathy vote at ‘boomer attitude’. I’m a boomer and I’ve spent the last 20 years looking after my grandchildren. I’ve also financed my kids so that they could get mortgages and have been there for them when they need me. Please don’t make such sweeping generalisations about a whole generation of people.

grumpygrape · 13/02/2026 13:39

MarianaMonterey · 13/02/2026 13:27

From google AI. Plus a smattering of racism, ableism etc etc. (Except for the bit about difficult feelings. Those she airs in abundance ‘because it makes her feel better’ she does not allow anyone else that privilege. And not just venting - verbal abuse lately)

Sorry OP, you lost me at Boomer attitude then had to 'explain' it by resorting to AI.

What sort of 'attitude' is that?

KarmenPQZ · 13/02/2026 13:40

A house is only worth what someone will pay. Just because you wouldn’t pay what she might think it’s worth doesn’t mean someone else won’t. You don’t really know that fair value any more than she does til there’s a serious buyer. It doesn’t sound like you’re serious and your judgement sounds pretty clouded too. Of course strangers on the internet do t know where the truth lies but I suspect neither your version or hers are entirely accurate.

luckylavender · 13/02/2026 13:43

You lost me at ‘boomer’ attitude. Horrible sentiment.
If you want constant drama then buy it or be sensible & walk away and find another house.

MarianaMonterey · 13/02/2026 13:45

3of5 · 13/02/2026 13:13

I would buy a different house - I would be concerned that my parent would still see it as “their house” and dispute/complain/make life hell for me every time I made a change.. (or maybe they would feel entitled to treat the property as their own and demand access)

The very first thing I will do ensure she will have no access. Nothing she can do and no reason to be here. She can sulk and tantrum as much as she likes in her chosen country. I have no intention of allowing her abuse of good nature to continue. She is civil in public and at my house. She’s only problematic where she has ownership and power, because she knows I won’t stand for it anywhere else. It’s one of the reasons I think she’s reluctant to sell to me and being cagey about it.

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pixieee · 13/02/2026 13:45

My 'Boomer' 70 year old mum is still working full time, your attitude is grim. Maybe you're more like your mother than you realised.

I wouldn't touch the house with a bargepole tbh.

Changename12 · 13/02/2026 13:46

Walk away from this house. Why would you seek all the complications that come with it?
Work on your own attitude.

Indianajet · 13/02/2026 13:47

'Boomer Attitude'?
I have no sympathy for anyone who paints all of us born in the 40s/50s as selfish people with plenty of money and an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude.
If my children need my help in any way I will do my best - I don't have the vast amount of money you seem to think we all have, but what I do have I share.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 13/02/2026 13:49

I think @ShetlandishMum nailed it in the first post, @MarianaMonterey. Unless this house is really special to you, is it really worth all the hassle with your mum?

Waitfortheguinness · 13/02/2026 13:50

Lately she’s adopted quite a ‘boomer’ attitude and her idea of her ‘rights’ at the expense of other people’s have become rude and entitled…..

🙄 please stop with this ‘boomer’ sh*t…….just because she’s difficult, you blame a whole generation…….yawn.

DelphiniumBlue · 13/02/2026 13:50

I do think your ageist attitude is an issue. Your mother might be unreasonable, racist, ableist etc but it's discriminatory to label a whole generation.
That being said, you'd cause yourself a lifetime of problems if you were to buy her house - she's always see it as hers.
I'm sure there must be other equally suitable houses to buy.