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To be frustrated with my friend and her dog?

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user1471553275 · 12/02/2026 01:40

I love my friend and we have great fun together but I'm losing my patience with her a little bit so would appreciate some outside perspective.

She has a 6 month old puppy (sausage dog). He's cute and I love dogs. I went with her to collect him and she's incredibly attached to him. Which is part of the problem for me.

He has no sense of asking to go out to the toilet. She has made no attempt to toilet train him as far as I can tell. He's peeing and pooping constantly in her house. She brushes it off with "he's still learning" - I get it to a degree. Puppies have accidents as do adult dogs sometimes. But he's not learning because she's not teaching him. She also says "well it's just small". I have not had a single visit in the 3 months where he has not peed or pooped in the house. I can smell it. She's laughing it off because it's a rental but I don't think it's funny or fair to the dog at all. She's also told me sausage dogs are harder to train. I see no attempt at training.

My friend wants to go to a pub quiz as she is quite lonely. The dog must come with us and only dog friendly is an option. I just don't want to be in places are with her dog peeing/pooping inside. It's just not nice. He pooed in a flower shop last week. She thinks it's funny because he's a baby.

The other issue I'm frustrated with is that she has not left this dog alone at all. Not to nip out for milk, or to the post office - literally both 5 mins from her house. We spoke about it last week as I have said to her she's setting herself up for a difficult future. She did the same with her previous dog but I put that down to her being anxious that she could be out and he might pass away as he was an older chap. I didn't realize that this would continue with the new dog. We went out last week because she had an appointment and I drove her there. She had to arrange someone to come and watch him. The toileting issue was also a problem with the old dog. I assumed he was having "accidents" as he was older but now I'm thinking he was maybe never trained either.

In the past when we'd go out there was constant clock watching and on several occasions we ended the night (for example not having pudding when I'd fancied it) because she wanted to get back for her dog or she just cancelled last minute because of the dog. It drove me insane and I just feel like it's all going in that direction again.

She's aware that it's her anxiety and this is being projected onto the dog. He was upstairs with me last week whilst she let a workman in and he was clearly distressed. He was howling and pacing within seconds of her leaving the room. She's done everything the breeder told her not to do. He's sleeping in bed with her, lays on her all day long and she lets him chew shoes, socks etc so no boundaries at all.

Despite her saying she'd make a start with leaving him last week when we had a chat so that they could start building up time it's clearly not happening. She wouldn't even come out to pick up a takeaway with me and a friend last night and we were less than 5 mins walk from the house.

Everything revolves around whether she can take her dog. I don't want him in my car (he peed on my kitchen rug 2 weeks ago) or to be inside somewhere when he can't control his toileting. I know he can't help it because he's not been taught but it's still not nice.

I don't think it's a good idea for me to raise my concerns again because she doesn't listen. She says all the right things but it's history repeating itself. What would you do. Just avoid situations? I feel bad because we are friends and I know she's lonely but I don't want to be around a whiny dog that can't control its bladder/bowels.

OP posts:
EverythingGolden · 12/02/2026 08:27

6m he should be housetrained with only an occasional accident.

You should spell it out to her you are not going anywhere with them until she has trained him.

BlackCat14 · 12/02/2026 08:31

You need to toughen up and be firmer with her. Next time she suggests you go out, say yes, but without the dog, and tell her why. Next time she wants to come to your house be firmer and say the dog can’t come, and tell her why.
She has a choice to make then.
You say you feel bad because she’s lonely, that’s on her. She can choose to leave the dog for a couple of hours and see you, or she can choose to be MORE lonely and not see you anymore. It’s on her not you. Don’t feel bad for it.
Does she not work?

Mere1 · 12/02/2026 08:48

WrylyAmused · 12/02/2026 02:24

She's clearly in the wrong, but you're also being a bit wet.

You don't like it. So you say so. And you hold the boundary.

"No, I don't want to go to the pub quiz/have him in the car/visit your house/whatever. I don't like that your dog isn't toilet trained and it's gross and embarrassing to take him out in public, and unfair to the owners of the places he indiscriminately pees and poos in. I also don't like the smell, and that's not fair to others in public places either. I don't want to be around him until he's trained, so until then, either I'd like to see you alone, or if you're not willing to leave him, then I guess we just can't hang out until he's properly toilet trained."

If your alternative is just avoiding her, then although it's uncomfortable to say so, it's actually kinder to say, as then she has a chance of fixing the issue.

Agreed.
arrange and go with her to dog training sessions? That’s social, to maintain seeing her.

Thestarsmayalign · 12/02/2026 08:54

Sorry Ive just read its about how you feel not active advice of things to do ( tho it van help)
yes - my two were exhausting together- so different - it was like parenting two single children not siblings- I struggled to switch off as i needed to intervene to direct them away from rows etc.
They are 20 months apart, and when they hit late teens became very close and its fab so all is not lost. For now , yes , absolutely hated parts of it, used to virtually hide from them — I get it op x

user1471553275 · 12/02/2026 08:57

Morning everyone and I appreciate the replies. To answer a few questions. We are in Scotland so pets cannot be banned under tenancy agreements we had changes a few years ago. Same with smoking. You can have a preference but nothing not stop it.

I'm a landlord too so I'm also very mindful of the damage he's causing. She's not got carpet it's wooden floor but even with sealant I would assume some pee is seeping through. She's at home all day as she took early retirement.

I think the person who called me wet is right there are some bigger issues in our friendship. I felt I was firm with her last week but it's definitely going in one year and out the other. As someone else pointed out she is who she is.

Next time she tells me about something he's done in public I will be direct along the lines suggested. And in terms of going out I can be firm there too - subject to his toilet training.

I thought perhaps people would be of the view that he's young and as a small dog it's not a big deal and I'm being an arse. I have big dogs and they would not be going anywhere where they were not behaving as it's not fair on other people.

I do have lots of other friends but see her a fair bit as I know she's isolated. In part because of her dog situation of the past.

Will toughen up!

OP posts:
ArkaParka · 12/02/2026 08:58

pollyglot · 12/02/2026 04:55

YouABU because you never once mentioned the fact that the dog is costing the landlord a fortune. All about you, and how it's not fair on the dog. I just got rid of a tenant whose dog - OUTSIDE ONLY - ruined the carpet, costing me thousands to replace it, the underlay and have the floorboards treated.But you do you...

You’re kidding, right? The friend has a contract with her landlord setting out her responsibilities under the tenancy. She is letting the dog toilet in the house, not OP. The property damage aspect is not OP’s problem and she doesn’t need to feel guilty about that! (I’m a landlord by the way, before you come back to tell me I’ve no idea)

OP I agree with those who’ve said you need to set firm boundaries here. It sounds like the friendship will be over otherwise so you’ve really nothing to lose. Tell your friend that the way she’s behaving is unfair to everyone involved, including her, and she needs to turn things around but that you want to help her.

If she’s prepared to work with you, support her to arrange to take the dog to weekly training classes - you can normally book a course of a few weeks. Arrange with her to go for a short walk every few days and leave the dog behind. Tell her the dog isn’t coming anywhere with you until he’s reliably house trained but go with her to buy some potty training mats and watch some YouTube videos about how to toilet train (it’s really not hard, my dog came home from the breeder already trained to a mat at 8 weeks old).

If she declines your help, or makes the right noises but is non-committal about timings, tell her that you aren’t prepared to spend more time around the dog until things are sorted because it’s upsetting you to see the mess they’re getting into. Stick to your guns and follow through but make it clear that if she changes your mind and wants your support she can let you know.

Wakemeupinapril · 12/02/2026 08:59

Your mate isn't available anymore..
She's too wrapped up with her dpuppy. Time to walk away.

OhDear111 · 12/02/2026 09:04

@Quickchangenow Another reason why there will be less houses to rent! What reasonable landlord wants this type of tenant? It’s not reasonable for this to happen and the landlord should have regular condition checks. Hopefully it’s grounds for eviction!

These dogs are very expensive. I would be removing myself from her. She’s obviously a bit mad and not someone I would ever consider a friend. So, op, drop her.

RSPCA might advise you about the dog?

ClaireEclair · 12/02/2026 09:08

It honestly sounds like she won’t listen. Do you have other friends that could also talk to her? Like a doggie intervention? My cousin also has a sausage dog that pees and poos in their house. Our other cousin looked after the dog one day and was distraught at the state of her home after and refuses to look after the dog now. I wonder if it is a sausage dog issue.

ClaireEclair · 12/02/2026 09:09

And you’re not wet! That’s unfair. You clearly care about your friend xx

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 12/02/2026 09:10

She's retired? So has plenty of time to train the dog.

Maybe go with "It's not a baby, it's almost 7 in dog years. You'd be horrified to see a 7 year old human poo on the floor of a shop" 😀

I'd take a pretty hard line, she's let it go far too long. She needs to get hold of a trainer and get some explicit and urgent steps to sort this out and guidance on how to build up the dog's ability to stay at home crated or otherwise without her. What or who is going to deal with the dog if she has an emergency? She's being deliberately obtuse and long term cruel. If her circumstances changed and she needed to rehome the dog, he'd be PTS as no one would have a mature dog that isn't potty trained.

MoveOnTheCards · 12/02/2026 09:10

So when this dog pisses or shits in a shop or the pub or wherever, does your friend actually clean it up?

No excuse even if she does, btw. It’s fucking grim.

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 12/02/2026 09:11

Sausage dogs are the wurst.

Womaninhouse17 · 12/02/2026 09:13

I think you have to be straight with her. You won't go anywhere with her or have the dog at your house until it is trained. Explain why, calmly and clearly. Say how the dog peeing and pooing everywhere makes you feel. Then stick to what you say. Don't listen to promises.

Economicsday · 12/02/2026 09:16

Good lord OP, glad you can see it with these responses.

Only disgusting, and I mean disgusting people, live like that and would inflict it on others.

Just as she is not training her dog and being ineffectual, you are doing the same with her.
Boundaries, find them, and apply them very firmly.

Her being lonely is her choice.
She has zero respect for you, your car, other people's businesses.

Wake up to the above.
Someone with self respect and respect for other's, doesn't behave like this.

Its not anxiety, its a lack of basic decency has her not caring about what impacts others.
Let her off.

bananamilkshakeforeveryone · 12/02/2026 09:21

Her being lonely is her choice.
She has zero respect for you, your car, other people's businesses

Exactly - she moans about being lonely but then treats other people's houses, property, cars, and businesses like a dog toilet. Come on, you can't disrespect people like that- leave dog shit all over their stuff, and then moan they dont want to spend time with you.

Its not anxiety - she's selfish AF

BoredZelda · 12/02/2026 09:21

Her dog, her choice. Your choice is whether you continue to be “friends” with her.

Tohold · 12/02/2026 09:21

I do have lots of other friends but see her a fair bit as I know she's isolated.

you must be isolated too op. To want to spend time with someone like this.

Starlight1979 · 12/02/2026 09:26

I'm genuinely disgusted baffled by people who don't toilet train their pets from day one. Why the hell would anyone be ok with an animal going to the toilet in their home?!

Does she even walk him? Assuming she's one of these who thinks small dogs don't need exercise so would rather clean up shit off her carpet rather than get outside for half an hour.

We have 3 dogs (two of which were rescues and not toilet trained before we adopted them!) and in all the years we've had them, we've maybe had two or three accidents in the house. And these were solely our fault as we hadn't picked up on the signs they needed to go out.

If you walk a dog in the morning and in the evening, then there should never be any accidents (unless they're old or poorly obviously).

Lazy, filthy people.

rainbowunicorn22 · 12/02/2026 09:31

I am sure her landlord won't be laughing. No reason why a sausage dog is harder to train than others, and to be honest, it has now got to a point where she will have to work harder due to her negligence.
its nice to have a cuddly devoted dog but this dog also needs his own space not to be carried everywhere or taken everywhere.
a responsible owner covers the toilet training asap.
i would not be happy with a dog shitting in my shop

Tohold · 12/02/2026 09:34

and you are a landlord @user1471553275 ?

ok so if you discovered one of your tenants was doing this in your flat, what would your thoughts and response be.

Poppy61 · 12/02/2026 09:35

Think this behaviour is deeply ingrained in your friend and unlikely to change. I will always help someone, but only if they are willing to help themselves, so in this instance, I would back off. Would certainly not have the dog in my house, or have my social life dictated by it. A pet is a choice and a commitment. Her choice and commitment, not yours.

BettyBoh · 12/02/2026 09:35

This woman has serious issues with responsibility. Has she had some kind of traumatic childhood?

Viviennemary · 12/02/2026 09:36

Your friend has gone nuts. She cant take that untrained dog to a pub. And I'm not even sure I'd want to be friends with somebody who had such a careless selfish attitude.

DigitalNomad2 · 12/02/2026 09:38

Motomum23 · 12/02/2026 07:56

Thats actually illegal now - make sure your deposit covers carpets/flooring so you aren't bitten again.

My property is in New Zealand where it is entirely legal

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