Reform is funded by Putin - wake up

[PeacePilgrim]

When will UK wake up to the Putin push for Brexit, Reform , Farage ? It's all part of the Theil Musk Bannon project ..

Urgent action needed

And ban overseas funding of political parties

Wake up people

Interesting. There is an email in the files where Bannon and Epstein are saying how Corbyn can’t be allowed to win the election. It can get a bit convoluted and hard to follow.

I thought they were about 90% funded by the oil and gas industry. Hence their only real policy is to end the commitment to net zero with all their other ideas being populist sound bites to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Woke! Boats!

I meant we were always bit halfhearted.Didn't join the euro and never part of schengen.

He said he couldn’t investigate because ‘’he wasn’t the police’’. A crime had been committed by Gill, the idea he couldn’t have done anything but ask is ridiculous.

He could have held an enquiry in exactly the same way as he claimed he was going to hold his own inquiry into the grooming gangs despite not being PM 🤣.

He does enough shouting from the sidelines. Why couldn’t he have backed the government enquiry into interference?

After the total disaster of Brexit (just where is all that extra cash & growth guys?!) I can’t believe anyone in the uk thinks Farage is a good bet!….foreign (Russian!) social media spinning had a hand in that and now significantly more input into Reform. That the average Brit can’t figure this out is testament to our crap education system🙁.

Your assumption that Mandy's connections were the issue is wrong, they were the reason he got that job.

Are you suggesting he can investigate because he has special access to police files that the average human doesn't? He's the leader of a political party, he has no rights to personal data, any more than you or I do. Nathan Gill was rightly investigated and prosecuted by the police - the idea that Farage could have done this on his own or by telling the police to is nonsense.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. The PM of this country has access to way more information than the leaders of the other political parties do. End of.

This is a good point. The official line may turn out to be that the vetting failed - we all know that the truth is Starmer can't admit to why Mandelson was appointed because then he'd have to say that Trump is a liability and they thought they needed a special sort of person to handle him.

But as far as the official line goes, it will be that the vetting failed.

If anybody has a suspicion of corruption in government, they can report it to the police. Farage himself has been reported to the police for suspected corruption a couple of times recently.

Are you telling me that after a member of your staff gets 10 years jail for that sort of crime, anybody with integrity that is hoping to run the country in four years time and gain trust of the electorate, wouldn’t be wondering if anyone else is involved? Because I certainly would. But not him, because he’s a Russian asset himself.

Even without the police involvement, he made no attempt to look into it anymore than asking. He seemed to think he could run his own grooming gang inquiry as I said, but not this?

To anyone reading this please watch out about Hungary too

Orban's government is allied with Putin, but it also provides support for organisations that in turn provide support for English-speaking "heterodox" public intellectuals. It's set out in terms of intellectual freedom but the mission is really to provide soft consent for Orban policies, which are generally soft on Russia, anti-EU, anti-LGBT, and anti-Net Zero. Many Unherd, Spiked, Spectator type people have been associated with MCC Brussels, which is an EU outlet for Orban's think tank/university Matthias Corvinus Collegium. And there's a crossover with the GC scene - an Orban-associated Brussels think tank recently hosted Kellie Jay-Keen at EU Parliament, Genspect have spoken at these think tanks and promoted their reports etc. So some of you might have crossed paths with the Orban mission without even knowing it

Clearly impossible to have a rational conversation when you're convinced he's a Russian asset. Labour MPs take donations from the Chinese (Barry Gardiner) but even they aren't accused of being Chinese assets.

Yusef doesn't make points. He's an overpromoted winding who shouts over everyone (particularly women) with whatever nonsense he thinks will keep him in the public eye.

He has no redeeming qualities and should be ignored at every opportunity. He certainly doesn't belong in government.

He’s also unelected, yet Reform keep on about democracy (yet another example of their hypocrisy) and Farage hasn’t been elected as party leader either.

He only goes on QT so much because Farage hates any type of scrutiny.

And it looks like Labour Peer Lord Mandelson might be about to do the same. And?

You could say the same about most politicians. However, I don't disagree with your points - he does talk over everyone which is annoying. Laila Cunningham is the same.

Isn't the West destabilising itself? I don't see how Putin can be doing this

Of course it’s multiple things but in the case of Putin, there’s a number of ways too. Didn’t you hear about Cambridge Analytica? It was a massive story and easily looked up now.

Lol yes, what about it? Spell it out for me - I'm not being funny

As soon as someone on SM tells me to "wake up", I shut down.

Agreed, ironically it’s the exact same catch phrase as the far right along with mountains of conspiracy theories and mocking anyone who disagrees.

Two sides of the same coin and a sad indictment of people’s ability to discuss politics effectively today.

This is awful

I'm not sure it's right to say that Reform is funded by Putin. But it is definitely right to say that much of what Reform stands for (Brexit, weaker EU, nationalism, anti-immigration) aids Putin's agenda. The same is true of Reform's tactics (sewing mistrust in institutions and the media).

This is why so many Russian bots parrot Reform talking points.

Obviously there is naked Russian/Reform corruption like Nathan Gill. But most of the Reform/Russia links are just shared goals or mutually beneficial policies, rather than direct financial aid. That's why it's so hard to stop. Campaign finance reform would help, but without a much tougher media regulator capable of dealing with fractured media and social media people will continue to be misled.

Is this a joke? There are loads!

Brexit certainly was advantageous to Russia. I think Bannon is in the Epstein files isn't he? The press don't seem outraged by it or really reporting any of the connections.

This. It's obvious what the rationale was, and that's why the appointment had support not just from Labour. Farage approved of it too.