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Epstein files

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Shhhhitsmagic · 06/02/2026 12:54

I've had too much time on my hands this week due to illness and I've gone down a rabbit hole with the epstein files.
Is anyone else struggling after reading this vile stuff?
I'm absolutely reeling and feel physically sick to my core. The world I thought we lived in doesn't exist (and probably never did in my lifetime).
It appears that not one single man involved will be held accountable. They are all being protected and the whole thing is being brushed under the carpet.
Why is this barely being reported on? Where are the protests? Are we being desensitised to this evil?
Can anyone help me make sense of this? 😢

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Wheresrebeccabunch · 06/02/2026 22:42

SomeEsotericJoke · 06/02/2026 21:54

It's brilliant to see the thread descend into disagreeing about what should be discussed. It's almost as if it's a really clever tactic to derail the conversation and point in any other direction than the true horror of what is actually going on.

True.

Id like to see conversation about what we can do to divest in systems that support these people and power structures, but in a way that doesn’t hurt ordinary people.

Also conversation about taking celebrities and rich people off of the pedestals we put them on. It’s our attention, money and energy that puts and keeps them in these positions of power.

I think there is a deeper psychological issue of people generally not feeling enough (perhaps because of the original sin concept weaved into our society by the Abrahamic religions) and projecting qualities we aspire to onto people at the top of society. Our lives are all about trying to be better - richer, more attractive, more successful, famous. Until now this elite class have been held up as the aspiration.

I think we are experiencing a collective social awakening now that the ‘best’ or ‘top’ people in society have been revealed to actually be the very worst.

TulipLavender · 06/02/2026 22:45

Appalonia · 06/02/2026 22:29

FFS we're talking about rape, torture and potential murder of young women and girls on a mass scale and pp are so blinkered by their hatred of Elon Musk that they're trying to derail this thread? Wow. Really weird prioritiies.

Elon Musk wanted to get on the island for some wild parties. Why is that derailing this thread to highlight that he wanted closer ties with Epstein and to party with him and basically lied about it? Years after Epstein's 2008 public prosecution for solicitation of sex with minors, one of the richest men in the world wanted to party with a known child rapist and you think it's derailing the thread to mention it?0

MidWayThruJanuary · 06/02/2026 22:46

@Appalonia
Do you love Elon Musk?
Why are you trying to pretend he is not deeply involved in Epsteins world of abuse of girls and women?

IrisPallida · 06/02/2026 22:52

TulipLavender · 06/02/2026 22:36

Find me a mainstream UK media report highlighting the role of Ehud Barak and Epstein or Epstein's role in Israeli Intelligence operations (which is now undeniable) - where is that reported?

Yeah we get hundreds of Prince Andrew reports and nothing about on whose behalf Epstein was working.

Talk about being thick!

Tik tok and twitter aren't credible news sources but neither are UK legacy media.

Proper journalism link:
https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel

It was also alleged several times each hour all day yesterday that Epstein was also believed to be recruited by Russian Intelligence on the very mainstream LBC News yesterday.

Also have a look at what CNN and the other mainstream non-right wing USA news sites are reporting.

Wheresrebeccabunch · 06/02/2026 22:56

TulipLavender · 06/02/2026 22:36

Find me a mainstream UK media report highlighting the role of Ehud Barak and Epstein or Epstein's role in Israeli Intelligence operations (which is now undeniable) - where is that reported?

Yeah we get hundreds of Prince Andrew reports and nothing about on whose behalf Epstein was working.

Talk about being thick!

Tik tok and twitter aren't credible news sources but neither are UK legacy media.

Proper journalism link:
https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel

Yes. The media blackout on this is incredibly disturbing. It really points to the issue that underlies all this.

TulipLavender · 06/02/2026 23:10

Interesting that UK media is comfortable talking about links to Russia but not to Israel which are far greater evidenced.

Perhaps research for yourself Epstein links to CIA, Iran Contra and Israeli intelligence and Ehud Barak and then assess whether it is adequately reported on within UK and US media

https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel/archive?sort=top

Archive - Epstein and Israel of Drop Site News

Full archive of all the posts from Epstein and Israel of Drop Site News.

https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel/archive?sort=top

ITMA2000 · 06/02/2026 23:11

InterestedDad37 · 06/02/2026 18:37

Well I've been watching the news and listening to the radio all day, and it's been top billing, through the Mandelson story and other aspects.
You'd have to be blind, deaf or comatose to think it isn't being reported on 😂😂

It is being reported on, but redacted to such an extent that the main perps aren't mentioned, but mainly the victims. Trump has had apparently 1000 mentions so far, was a documented pal of Epstein, was elected after saying women should be grabbed by the pussy, but will emerge whiter than snow. And there are millions of documents which will never be released for "security reasons".

SplendidUtterly · 06/02/2026 23:22

Think about it, there can't just be one man like "Epstein" in the world...he just happened to get caught 😐

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 06/02/2026 23:27

There is a book series ( fiction) by the writer Simon Kernick.

The business of Dying
a good day to die
pay back

it has 3 books that follow a london detective Dennis Milne

it’s about a paedophile ring operating in the highest parts of establishment and a group of them who are lords Politicians Judges police officers well known celebrities Royaltyfamous business meh all the usual suspects are getting children from various children homes and raping them and often killing then or passing them around to other groups

they have a fixer ( a Mr Big ) who deals with any problems that they have like getting rid of bodies, framing people for murder, and in return he’s allowed to run his drugs empire

The books were written early 2000 so way before all this came out about Epstein and AMW

if you like criminal thriller type of fictions books. Then they are definitely worth a read especially in light of what’s we know now as it’s spooky how similar parts of the book is with regard to what we know now

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 06/02/2026 23:34

I’ve always thought that JE was either a spy for Israel , Russia or both
backed by these countries to have a long term spy who can appeal to the rich powerful and famous people and then compromise them with videos / photos and blackmail them

InterestedDad37 · 06/02/2026 23:42

ITMA2000 · 06/02/2026 23:11

It is being reported on, but redacted to such an extent that the main perps aren't mentioned, but mainly the victims. Trump has had apparently 1000 mentions so far, was a documented pal of Epstein, was elected after saying women should be grabbed by the pussy, but will emerge whiter than snow. And there are millions of documents which will never be released for "security reasons".

Edited

Yes, I know 👍

TulipLavender · 06/02/2026 23:44

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 06/02/2026 23:27

There is a book series ( fiction) by the writer Simon Kernick.

The business of Dying
a good day to die
pay back

it has 3 books that follow a london detective Dennis Milne

it’s about a paedophile ring operating in the highest parts of establishment and a group of them who are lords Politicians Judges police officers well known celebrities Royaltyfamous business meh all the usual suspects are getting children from various children homes and raping them and often killing then or passing them around to other groups

they have a fixer ( a Mr Big ) who deals with any problems that they have like getting rid of bodies, framing people for murder, and in return he’s allowed to run his drugs empire

The books were written early 2000 so way before all this came out about Epstein and AMW

if you like criminal thriller type of fictions books. Then they are definitely worth a read especially in light of what’s we know now as it’s spooky how similar parts of the book is with regard to what we know now

Space Relations Donald Barr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations
The plot is an oligarchy involved in child sex trafficking.

Donald Barr gave Epstein his first job in a Private college, Dalton School. Despite Epstein not having the right qualifications.

Donald Barr's son is Bill Barr - US attorney general during the time Epstein 'committed suicide'

The truth is stranger than fiction.

Space Relations - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations

VanityUnit66 · 06/02/2026 23:52

Sidebeforeself · 06/02/2026 20:47

You cannot know that. Have you met ALL the men? What about all the men in my family? Do you reckon at least one of them is a pervert?

Why would you take that so personally?

Theseboobsweremadeforwalking · 07/02/2026 00:04

I'm with you OP, haven't had time to RTFT but am desperate to March or protest, SOMETHING. Please can anyone let me know of anything happening like this in the UK? People need to be held accountable. I feel like today has changed me, the things I've read.

peanutbuttertoasty · 07/02/2026 00:10

TulipLavender · 06/02/2026 23:44

Space Relations Donald Barr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations
The plot is an oligarchy involved in child sex trafficking.

Donald Barr gave Epstein his first job in a Private college, Dalton School. Despite Epstein not having the right qualifications.

Donald Barr's son is Bill Barr - US attorney general during the time Epstein 'committed suicide'

The truth is stranger than fiction.

Epstein Barr like the invasive virus? Couldn’t make that up!

Warmlight1 · 07/02/2026 00:43

Sidebeforeself · 06/02/2026 19:32

Well she’s serving a sentence for her own crimes. Let’s not imply she has any degree of innocence. But yes..where are the men in prison?

It's like - she was trafficking girls but not to anyone.

InterestedDad37 · 07/02/2026 01:00

TulipLavender · 06/02/2026 22:36

Find me a mainstream UK media report highlighting the role of Ehud Barak and Epstein or Epstein's role in Israeli Intelligence operations (which is now undeniable) - where is that reported?

Yeah we get hundreds of Prince Andrew reports and nothing about on whose behalf Epstein was working.

Talk about being thick!

Tik tok and twitter aren't credible news sources but neither are UK legacy media.

Proper journalism link:
https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel

BBC: Ehud Barak named right at the top of this article.
You and I are probably in broad agreement with regard to the files, from what I can gather from your posts in this thread, but to claim that mainstream media is only mentioning Andrew ex Royal, and not mentioning other culprits is just nonsense.

BBC Report with Ehud Barak mentioned right at the top

FlyingApple · 07/02/2026 04:48

If you think the Bible is ok with this type of thing, you haven't read it. The Bible repeatedly warns about this cult of people and their abuse of children. They worship a different "God"

Sidebeforeself · 07/02/2026 06:12

VanityUnit66 · 06/02/2026 23:52

Why would you take that so personally?

I didnt.It was a sweeping statement

THisbackwithavengeance · 07/02/2026 06:53

I’m seeing headlines about AMW and PM. I’m not seeing anything about how the world’s elite men are satanists who rape and eat children and control world events for their own gratification.

AMW and PM were bit players.

leotheo · 07/02/2026 07:44

Shhhhitsmagic · 06/02/2026 20:30

One of the worst things I've read is that he isn't dead. This is an account from a prison guard...

Wait what?

FOJN · 07/02/2026 07:56

Appalonia · 06/02/2026 22:29

FFS we're talking about rape, torture and potential murder of young women and girls on a mass scale and pp are so blinkered by their hatred of Elon Musk that they're trying to derail this thread? Wow. Really weird prioritiies.

Posters are responding to your statement that Musk was not implicated. You are as bad as anyone being partisan if you are pretending that the emails between Epstein and Musk don't raise questions.

Musk lied about his association with Epstein, he said the JE had tried to entice him to the island but he refused. In reality he was begging for a party invitation from a convicted paedophile. Even if we give Musk all the benefit of doubt in the world and assume he thought the parties were drug fuelled orgies which only involved consenting adults he was still willing to party with a convicted paedophile.

I think we should not shy away from asking questions. We do not know (yet) if Musk ever actually went to the island but we do know that Epstein instructed GM to deal with another email from Musk requesting an invitation and she told him they were closing the island operation down. Why was Epstein rejecting friendly overtures from someone as wealthy as Musk?

I agree with your point about people focussing on people they don't like, it feels like people would be jubilant if Trump was brought down by this but if we only concentrate on the high profile people then nothing will change. Trump is one man, albeit very powerful, but removing him from office won't stop this type of abuse happening.

peanutbuttertoasty · 07/02/2026 08:05

My money would be on Blair who we know is a kinky perv (see arrest for soliciting in public loos)

leotheo · 07/02/2026 08:12

peanutbuttertoasty · 07/02/2026 08:05

My money would be on Blair who we know is a kinky perv (see arrest for soliciting in public loos)

Envy