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to absolutely hate the how people are speaking English!

539 replies

exse24Londoner · 03/02/2026 16:35

I really hate how we have "suddenly" starting gifting presents rather than giving them as we did only a couple of years ago. Vacations - when did we start having vacations instead of holidays?????? The other day I saw an advert for pants - turned out to be trousers. Apparently when I speak to someone it is now liaising & if I call or text, I am reaching out..... the other day someone was talking about the front end, or as I prefer to call it - the beginning!!🙄

Dont get me wrong, I love the evolution of language & that generations make it their own but this isn't that this is not teenagers or cultures developing own language its...... weird management/pop psychology speak

is it just me??

OP posts:
CRCGran · 07/02/2026 18:50

My absolute pet peave in language destruction is the way so many, mainly youngsters, use "of" instead of "have" ... would of, could of, should of !!! When did would've, could've, should've disappear?? Makes my blood boil. And it's so widespread.

Rayburn · 07/02/2026 19:03

CRCGran · 07/02/2026 18:50

My absolute pet peave in language destruction is the way so many, mainly youngsters, use "of" instead of "have" ... would of, could of, should of !!! When did would've, could've, should've disappear?? Makes my blood boil. And it's so widespread.

It’s peeve.

RitaIncognita · 07/02/2026 19:18

CRCGran · 07/02/2026 18:50

My absolute pet peave in language destruction is the way so many, mainly youngsters, use "of" instead of "have" ... would of, could of, should of !!! When did would've, could've, should've disappear?? Makes my blood boil. And it's so widespread.

I can understand to a certain extent because the spoken contractions are indistinguishable from the "of" sound in many accents, and people are writing what they hear and say. I think not knowing the difference in writing must come from not being taught adequately or from not being a reader.

And it's not just young people; it's quite common on MN from, I assume, a variety of ages.

CRCGran · 07/02/2026 19:24

Rayburn · 07/02/2026 19:03

It’s peeve.

Oh dear... that's what you took out of that? I take it you're one of those misusing "of" then.... 😂

CRCGran · 07/02/2026 19:28

RitaIncognita · 07/02/2026 19:18

I can understand to a certain extent because the spoken contractions are indistinguishable from the "of" sound in many accents, and people are writing what they hear and say. I think not knowing the difference in writing must come from not being taught adequately or from not being a reader.

And it's not just young people; it's quite common on MN from, I assume, a variety of ages.

I just don't know where it's come from. Surely if you're taught the right use in schools it would stick...but apparently not.. it certainly is a pet PEEVE of mine... (it was pointed out I'd misspelled peave in my original post).

hugbilly · 07/02/2026 19:28

It's infuriating, and there are so many examples. A particular bugbear of mine is "expiration date," widely used on credit cards and elsewhere. No, it's "expiry date!"

DustyMaiden · 07/02/2026 19:32

Rayburn · 03/02/2026 16:48

Tell that to Shakespeare.

ill gotten gains?

IloveOwlsandPenguins · 07/02/2026 20:19

My spoken and written English are both pretty poor . There are so many words I mispronounce and the way I use grammar is mainly intuitive .
However there is is one linguistic change that has been universally adopted that I find really jarring which is people saying ‘me and Brenda went to the shops …’ instead of ‘Brenda and I went … ‘ It isn’t so much that it’s grammatically incorrect but that it seems ungracious to put oneself first .
Have no idea why it bothers me so much !

Pleasepleaseme1 · 07/02/2026 20:44

100%

Annteeta · 07/02/2026 20:45

RedToothBrush · 03/02/2026 16:58

NW where? England?!

Never ever heard that! Ever!

I'm from NW England and we've said pants for trousers as long as I can remember.

user1476613140 · 07/02/2026 20:47

Reaching out....bleugh.

IloveOwlsandPenguins · 07/02/2026 20:47

exse24Londoner · 06/02/2026 19:42

🤐

The OP isn’t criticising people regarding grammar / typos . As she’s previously carefully explained herself.
She is asking if people are bothered by the increasingly prevalent substitution of ‘American English ‘words for ‘English English ‘words .
Whichever form of English we are using the OP has been clear and polite .

LEDZEP2 · 07/02/2026 21:46

And a trainer, or a trouser, it sounds stupid! What is wrong with saying a pair?

Coco1379 · 07/02/2026 23:35

I hate the use of ’their’ instead of ’his’ or ’her’. ’Their’ is plural. If you want gender neutrality just use the name. I had a note from the vet ’Loki is due for their flea treatment’. Why not ‘Loki’s flea treatment is now due’?

Yelrab · 08/02/2026 00:09

I very much dislike our children being referred to as ‘kids’. Why are rooms without baths sometimes called ‘bathrooms’?

StrikeForever · 08/02/2026 01:15

Yelrab · 08/02/2026 00:09

I very much dislike our children being referred to as ‘kids’. Why are rooms without baths sometimes called ‘bathrooms’?

Because Americans need smelling salts if they hear the word toilet!

RitaIncognita · 08/02/2026 01:46

StrikeForever · 08/02/2026 01:15

Because Americans need smelling salts if they hear the word toilet!

This is very true. And I would say it's nearly universal. In a deeply divided nation, we all agree on this. We avoid the word unless absolutely necessary and then only to refer to the actual fixture, as in "DH, I need your help. The toilet in the kids' bathroom is stopped up."

Some older generations in the US Deep South may have never uttered the word. My grandmother called it a commode.

pompomtiddly · 08/02/2026 02:57

IthinkIamAnAlien · 07/02/2026 12:15

What is the earliest known use of the adjective gotten?
EARLIEST KNOWN USE
Middle English
The earliest known use of the adjective gotten is in the Middle English period (1150—1500).
OED's earliest evidence for gotten is from before 1382, in Bible (Wycliffite, early version).
Can't get better than the OED!

interesting!

nevernotmaybe · 08/02/2026 03:36

Coco1379 · 07/02/2026 23:35

I hate the use of ’their’ instead of ’his’ or ’her’. ’Their’ is plural. If you want gender neutrality just use the name. I had a note from the vet ’Loki is due for their flea treatment’. Why not ‘Loki’s flea treatment is now due’?

Their has been used for singular reference since the 1300s.

Baloneyhahaboohoo · 08/02/2026 05:21

I hate the way people start a conversation or answering anything with SO look at the bloody so called politicians it’s almost always SO or the let me finish - if only they would finish ie stop talking crap and the other thing I hate is the stupidity of people kissing on meeting and the mhwa thing

HilaryThorpe · 08/02/2026 05:50

Crumblesandcustard · 03/02/2026 17:20

I'm from Cumbria and would always say pants to mean trousers, although my teenagers laugh at me! Your underpants are kecks or grundies!

Out of interest, is it just for more informal wear? Would you say, "he wore a navy jacket and very smart navy pants to his wedding"?

Baloneyhahaboohoo · 08/02/2026 05:56

Anyone out there sick of hearing about ex Prince Andrew and the Harry saga Andrew behaves like a typically spoiled brat I want I want who cares what you want you’re fucked all the expensive education you received blew it away saying you are one of the biggest idiots is an understatement good luck to you now having to live in a “council “ house paying own bills would be a bonus the country and Crown should not be supporting you - go and get a job you’ve scrounged enough whoops your an OAP still scrounging as for the Harry creature - following in uncle Andrew’s footsteps I want I want need I say more

MammaBear1 · 08/02/2026 05:59

Lovelynames123 · 03/02/2026 16:48

Definitely been using pants in the NE for trousers for years, jogging pants, ski pants, pyjama pants...my pet peeve is " can I get...." when ordering, although do sometimes hear myself say it!

You’re right - they’re all pants in the NW.

Unless it’s formal pants - in which case they are “work trousers” 😂

Mithral · 08/02/2026 07:19

Coco1379 · 07/02/2026 23:35

I hate the use of ’their’ instead of ’his’ or ’her’. ’Their’ is plural. If you want gender neutrality just use the name. I had a note from the vet ’Loki is due for their flea treatment’. Why not ‘Loki’s flea treatment is now due’?

Do you object to something like -

A: "Someone is at the door"
B: "Could you please see what they want"

That is very standard English. The vet example seems similar - whoever wrote the reminder probably wasn't sure if Loki was male or female.

MarilynAE · 08/02/2026 08:15

I do not understand why people (it began in USA but now is used here a lot) say 'my husband and I' when it should be 'my husband and me' for example .... It was a present for my husband and I. You wouldn't say It was a present for I would you..? ' my husband and I went on holiday' is correct as you would say correctly 'I went on holiday'. I know it is a small thing but it drives me nutty. take the other person out of the sentence and see how it sounds. I know, I should have better things to get stressed about.

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