to absolutely hate the how people are speaking English!

[exse24Londoner]

I really hate how we have "suddenly" starting gifting presents rather than giving them as we did only a couple of years ago. Vacations - when did we start having vacations instead of holidays?????? The other day I saw an advert for pants - turned out to be trousers. Apparently when I speak to someone it is now liaising & if I call or text, I am reaching out..... the other day someone was talking about the front end, or as I prefer to call it - the beginning!!🙄

Dont get me wrong, I love the evolution of language & that generations make it their own but this isn't that this is not teenagers or cultures developing own language its...... weird management/pop psychology speak

is it just me??

I can't remember our last proper holiday, but I know I've never been on vacation, even when I was in the USA!!!

"Front-end" could also be an IT term referring to that part of a software system that presents itself to the Users, rather than the "Back-end" where all the number-crunching goes on and you need a degree in gibberish to understand it ;-)

It's actually a thing in England. "Homicide" encompasses murder and manslaughter.

And when did we start “speaking to” and issue and celebrating Valentines and New Years? Grrrrr!

'Learnings' really gets on my nerves - we do not learn learnings, we learn lessons!

I wonder if people who say those, write the words with a K at the end

Your written English is pretty bad, OP. Brush up on that as it makes you look pretty stupid when you criticise others for being sloppy.

NW they say pants. Not just Americans.

Never heard anyone say "front-end"? I've heard "from the jump/from jumpstreet" but I listen to a lot of Canadian podcasts so maybe that's a thing there😁

Or do their makeup and drill their nails over and over on each pot/tub. Molly mae was doing it on her laundry advert before she would open the box or bottle. It was really pathetic.

'Hit me up' was one that I really disliked a few years ago, don't hear it used so much now though.

I seriously think you've missed the point. It's not pendants corner. It's about irritating adopted phrases from films and social media.
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We'll always have a murder of crows

I understand about the earliest meaning being different in tone, but that was centuries ago.

What I can’t understand is this: people now know ‘get’ means ‘receive’ when it comes to getting an email or a letter, but seem to be baffled when someone asks about getting a coffee. The context alone should make the meaning of receive very clear. I’m not convinced about the undertone lasting through centuries to cause confusion in coffee-shops alone.

Why is it not confusing in America?

I suppose I’m asking if you know for a fact that people (still) don’t use the expression because of this historical nuance, or if that’s a hypothesis based on knowledge of the much older meaning?

Could it be that English people are simply more used to asking ‘please may I have?’ so everything else now seems less polite and, god forbid, American?

Yes. That earliest meaning with its more aggressive tone is from Old Norse, I believe. "Get" has certainly developed further and evolved both in meaning and tone since then and clearly includes the notion of receiving, both in American English and in British English. But so many posters on MN seem to think that there is a separate prescriptive rule for ordering in a coffee shop as opposed to saying "what did you get for Christmas."

A lot of terms are the same for Canada and the US, but not all. And Canadian spelling normally keeps the “u” in words like neighbour, labour, etc. Canada has words that befuddle Americans, like chesterfield.

As for the word soda, it depends on the region. The part of Canada I grew up in (Newfoundland) we would say “soft drink”. But Newfoundland English is a whole other thing entirely, so maybe not the best example.

I now live in Montreal, and Montreal English is unique too as it borrows some terms and syntax from Canadian French.

But I too hate “gifted”. And “on accident”.

On point. Add fake IMHO.
Tsk! 🤑

Here we go again.

Let's all bash American English.

Never mind that many of the words and phrases that make the teeth of so many itch are commonly used in various parts and regions of the UK itself...

As in, 'Lessons will be learned'?

That never happens.

Or Australia.

Gotten is the past participle of “to get”.
He has gotten…..

I am from Wales but one of my parents is from Lancashire. I have always called trousers pants, I have had people accuse me of using Americanisms but it’s what they do!

My theory is that they are called underpants for a reason

If you’re going to complain about language intricacies at least make sure you proof read your own writing….

Admittedly it's more of a written language issue, but the incorrect use of "may" really irritates me. As in "may you send us this thing?". It's the new "myself".

Agree, this isn’t some new change. Just what you were brought up with.

Late Middle English. We used "gotten" before America existed.