to absolutely hate the how people are speaking English!

[exse24Londoner]

I really hate how we have "suddenly" starting gifting presents rather than giving them as we did only a couple of years ago. Vacations - when did we start having vacations instead of holidays?????? The other day I saw an advert for pants - turned out to be trousers. Apparently when I speak to someone it is now liaising & if I call or text, I am reaching out..... the other day someone was talking about the front end, or as I prefer to call it - the beginning!!🙄

Dont get me wrong, I love the evolution of language & that generations make it their own but this isn't that this is not teenagers or cultures developing own language its...... weird management/pop psychology speak

is it just me??

language evolves
i go on holiday

Agree, pants here , knickers for underwear.

op are these people you are speaking to in real life? I’ve never heard anyone in real life say gifting or vacation unless it’s an American colleague. You can’t police the whole of the uk! problem is with social media you are hearing people who you normally never have a conversation with.

Agree about lip and trouser though .

there is i am sure also an australian influence, after neighbours,
how you doing?
good
for example, or is that still the case?
it was

Pants are trousers! Knickers are underwear. Panties (shudder) is the American word.

im British and 54, my mother is 84 it’s not a new American word.

It's the dumbing down of Britain.

The use of "holiday" a substitute for "Christmas" in British advertising confuses me. E.g. an Essex-accented woman proclaiming "shop our latest holiday collection!". I understand that Americans use "holiday" this way but Brits (typically) don't. Say "holiday" and I'm expecting bikinis, not reindeer jumpers and Elf on the Shelf tat.

Interesting that advertisers tend to borrow American phrases but not phrases from any other cultures (e.g. Spanish, Chinese). It definitely shows the direction of cultural influence.

Hell, no it isn't! It's he got/she got.

Why has a film become a movie? Why are we referring to Gen Zee, not Gen Zed?

Yes it is. Got and gotten serve different purposes. British English seems to have lost the nuanced difference between them whereas hiberno English has retained it.

It's not an 'ask', but a request.

Surely “got” is a verb there.

I think gotten in “ill-gotten gain” is a participle.

Am happy to be corrected by some expert dialectitian and grammarian.

‘It’s gotten colder’…that’s the sort of use being talked about, not gotten in ill-gotten gains or forgotten @Rayburn.

ETA Not an expert in any way unfortunately.
This what google says though:
“Get is the present tense form of the verb. Got is the past tense form as well as one of the two alternatives for the past participle. The other alternative for the past participle is gotten, the preferred form in America.”

I use the, do I instantly understand what is being said? principle.

It's gotten colder, hmmm...it is now colder than it was, so yup...

I did wonder if "Gen Zee" was a new US rap artist for a while 🤭, so nope...

The other alternative for the past participle is gotten, the preferred form in America.

Yes. "Gotten" is standard American English for the past participle.

Also in Hiberno English.

This one drives me nuts “a big ask” FFS! 😬

I think the issue is not "pants" plural, but fashion writers using the term "pant" singular, as in "she rocked a mauve mohair top and and a purple psychedelic pant"!

Reaching out. Please stop doing that, it's really annoying.

Wouldn’t put it far past the Jocks either .

I've lived in the Midlands and Yorkshire and have always called trousers pants why else would you have underpants?

Also it's always been Mom in the Midlands not Mum!

That's just silly.

Lot's of it is office lingo, many work in international companies and use international English in communications. Language evolves and people bring it into their private lives.

Lots

I hate how t's are dropped when speaking. Pure laziness IMO.