to absolutely hate the how people are speaking English!

[exse24Londoner]

I really hate how we have "suddenly" starting gifting presents rather than giving them as we did only a couple of years ago. Vacations - when did we start having vacations instead of holidays?????? The other day I saw an advert for pants - turned out to be trousers. Apparently when I speak to someone it is now liaising & if I call or text, I am reaching out..... the other day someone was talking about the front end, or as I prefer to call it - the beginning!!🙄

Dont get me wrong, I love the evolution of language & that generations make it their own but this isn't that this is not teenagers or cultures developing own language its...... weird management/pop psychology speak

is it just me??

Morning all!
Hi how is everyone doing?

Guys (and lads) reinforces male as the default, which in a patriarchy is about right!

I also hate folks, too twee.

Also in Liverpool and we use pants a lot but also refer to trousers too.

It’s been going on a lot longer - probably ten years or so in London.

When did it always mean to get it yourself though?

I’ve always used get in the sense of receive (among its other meanings) and I’m nearly 60.

Always got presents for Christmas, letters in the post. I get emails now.

Google tells me get has been used to mean receive for centuries now. Is this wrong?

I’m a dressmaker and any trouser patterns that I buy that aren’t from the UK are described as pants.

I do get what you’re saying and agree but unfortunately find myself using Americanisms all the time. I almost typed ‘I totally get’.

I went to New York a couple of years ago and in that week I picked up ‘can I get’ instead of ‘can I have’ and I’ve never lost it. It just comes out.

In the words of Alan Partridge ‘who grabs a coffee? He thinks he’s a doctor in ER’

I agree with you OP, basically English language has become more Americanised and I cringe having to listen to it myself sometimes, but language evolves over time and we just have to live with it.

Unfortunately, this has crept into my vocabulary after visiting America. I didn’t even realise and I can’t stop it. Once I’ve said it, it’s too late, it’s been released and there’s nothing I can do.

I’m 43.

Another example is "fall" for autumn. "Fall" was common usage in British English at the time of the early settlements in colonial America. Americans use both fall and autumn, but fall is much more common.

A lot of this comes from people who are quite thick and can't think for themselves.
Very easily influenced

.And laughably think they are cool and on trend. Whatever that means in their world.

My pet hate is the morons who live in the Land of Lost Consonants..Which is more like a Continent nowadays.

You know they pronounce excited as sited. And community as moonity

Started off as class tourism but spread rapidly and is now RP for the masses

Exactly. I think it was Bill Bryson in his book on the history of the English language which quotes many words that have gone by the wayside in Britain but which are still in use in the US. Shakespeare certainly uses "gotten" many times.

He uses diaper too, to mean a cloth.

I often heard Mom when living in the. midlands in the 50s and 60s. It was a relatively affluent area, too.

When I become queen of the world, anyone saying ‘like’ multiple times in a sentence will be banned. Also ‘ick’. Banished.

It’s a very usual way of asking for things in Ireland and Scotland. You don’t need to have visited America 😉

I agree that British English has changed enormously over the last couple of years. Grammar as well as the vocabulary we use. Most people now seem to say "There was 5 people" instead of "There were five people". Some people are starting to say "I went to Paris last summer. I always wanted to go there" instead of "I went to Paris last summer. I'd always wanted to go there." You can't always work out what they mean because the grammar doesn't work. Today I heard a tennis player being interviewed. Her English was absolutely terribly - she had a British accent, but sounded like a young child or a foreigner starting to learn English, what she said was so basic and so full of mistakes.

I still haven’t got over ‘party’ becoming a verb.

I will never ever say it. Other people who say it immediately go down in my estimations. It grates on me.

That’s fair, I was actually going to say “unless you’re in Ireland”

No it’s not just you. I hate it too. I cringe at almost every advert on the telly, and at every letter that comes from a big organisation or charity.

One of it's earliest meanings was "To obtain possession of (property, etc.) as the result of effort or (esp.) contrivance" - this original tone of the word is more aggressive almost, and more about personal will to take it yourself. Contrivance is a key part of that it.

This undertone is why saying "can I get" has a clash especially in a more polite serving environment, even if the origin of why was forgotten. You would ask if you can have it, as apposed to get that is a more aggressive demand of ownership from your personal will.

This traditional connection was lost more in the US.

One interesting thing about the structure, is that if you translate "can I get" to most languages it is either bad or just nonsense when it comes to requestion something from a service like a restaurant. There really is a reason why saying this was seen as impolite, it isn't some random thing everyone started makingg up.

I dislike the word pants and what it is used for today. The others don't bother me, and I prefer them

Pet hate irritant..invite..instead of invitation..aarghh

From Liverpool and always called trousers, pants.

“Seasons” instead of series. Grr.

Dear OP, I'm with you. Though, I must admit I'm am ardent member, possibly even a founder member, of "Pedants 'R Us". Don't get me started on "less" instead of "fewer".