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Vocal fry

147 replies

Idleplum · 02/02/2026 17:02

Is it just me or are more and more people speaking with a vocal fry? It’s so common, it has to be intentional. I absolutely can’t stand it.

MAFS Australia used to be my guilty pleasure but I had to give it up because I couldn’t take listening to all those guys horrible voices. Now I feel like every video I see online has someone speaking like it and my body does this weird, scrunched up thing because I hate it so much.

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VeterinaryCareAssistant · 03/02/2026 20:16

nomas · 02/02/2026 19:55

When people want to tell younger women how to speak, it is a feminist issue. Why doesn’t she want to tell the men how to speak.

Because they probably speak with regular voices and don't sound like morons.

BinseyPoplars · 03/02/2026 20:51

qoqoa · 03/02/2026 11:16

Vocal fry has always been around, it’s just overused now in an attempt to be nonchalant. When someone’s speech patterns become too repetitive and predictable, it gets really annoying.

Yes, I think a lot of it comes from wanting to sound a bit bored and unimpressed; the opposite of the “Elle Woods” very animated way of speaking. It’s painful to listen to

Lots of the teenagers use it around here - and yes, often alongside ups peak/rising inflection; I’d be delighted if it was just a fad as it really does them no favours in sounding credible/knowledgeable, which is a real shame

cramptramp · 03/02/2026 20:53

There are interesting podcasts that I’ve really wanted to listen to but have been unable to because I find vocal fry so very irritating.

Teddleshon1 · 03/02/2026 21:18

@cramptramp snap, I’ve switched off countless interviews and podcasts for exactly this. How can the people doing it not realise how affected they sound?

qoqoa · 03/02/2026 23:12

The13thFairy · 03/02/2026 17:40

GIYF

GOOGLE IT YOU FUCK?

JohnTheRevelator · 04/02/2026 00:01

It's strange because not that many years ago so many women were talking in unnaturally high squeaky voices. Made them sound like Minnie Mouse. I don't know what's worst,that or vocal fry.

Tonissister · 04/02/2026 00:09

Arlanymor · 02/02/2026 17:14

It's awful!

@WhatYouWearing THIS is vocal fry! Oh it won't let me share the link sorry, look on YouTube for Vocal Fry Loudermilk Season 2, Episode 1 - it's really short (and funny).

Edited

I came on to say the same thing.
The Loudermilk vocal fry skit is so funny. (But when I showed it to DS he said, 'There's nothing wrong with her voice - that man is just rude.' So it's a generational thing, I guess.)

Mistyglade · 04/02/2026 00:31

God it’s hideous, luckily no one i know has developed it!

Isittimeformynapyet · 04/02/2026 00:40

Shitmonger · 02/02/2026 17:19

There are now several years of research and publications about the misogyny behind the “hatred” and criticism of vocal fry. Linguist Dr. Geoff Lindsey has some good videos about the dislike of young women speaking or appearing confident/knowledgeable as well as how men’s voices are not policed and criticised for their vocal fry.

And you're monging this shit @Shitmonger?

Vocal fry does not make the speaker sound knowledgeable or confident. Quite the opposite - it's an obvious affectation and just sounds silly. In my opinion.

Bauds1 · 04/02/2026 00:41

Daisey12 · 02/02/2026 18:51

Along with upspeak which makes every statement sound like a question. I’m recruiting for a director role in my team at the moment and have rejected two woman for using it as it makes them come across as seriously lacking confidence

Agree! In Nz everyone speaks like that here. In my field I have to coach students to talk without rising inflection as the examiners are from the UK and will mark the students down because they sound uncertain.

HoppityBun · 04/02/2026 00:44

cramptramp · 03/02/2026 20:53

There are interesting podcasts that I’ve really wanted to listen to but have been unable to because I find vocal fry so very irritating.

I find it irritating but far more than irritating, I feel acutely uncomfortable, as though my own throat is being constricted.

Isittimeformynapyet · 04/02/2026 01:25

Furlane · 03/02/2026 12:07

You rejected two women because of how they speak? Do you have an HR department? I’ve done a fair bit of hiring and dismissing someone because of how they speak, well I just can’t imagine that would be a valid reason without being discriminatory?

She didn't dismiss them though. She just didn't hire them.

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · 04/02/2026 03:17

For some reason I immediately thought of Maya Hawke, even tho I’m not 100% sure what this is, I need to YouTube in the morning at a sensible hour. But then again if it’s what I think it is, her dad also does this.

Furlane · 04/02/2026 03:41

Isittimeformynapyet · 04/02/2026 01:25

She didn't dismiss them though. She just didn't hire them.

I didn’t say she dismissed them. Our interviews have a proper process and nowhere on the scorecards is anything to do with how a person speaks. It’s all to do with education, experience, competence etc. You can’t be sure someone is putting it on. My friend had to get coached on how to lower her voice as it was naturally squeaky and high (she has a senior position and is on the media a lot). I just think it’s a bit sad that we are still discriminating over voices.

Plasticdreams · 04/02/2026 05:11

I’m a bit confused. My voice is naturally a bit deep for a woman and often raspy - I lose my voice easily so must have a weakness there. Does that mean I have vocal fry?
I’ve never noticed Rory Stewart having it. I just like listening to what he has to say and I enjoy the sound of his voice.

rainandshine38 · 04/02/2026 06:27

DH and I just look at each other and say ‘Loudermilk’ when we hear it and laugh. I guess that’s immature too ( but funny).

SallyLovesCheese · 04/02/2026 08:06

I had to turn off a radio off l interview on LBC the other day as the female guest had vocal fry and I couldn't listen.

There's also a YouTube channel where the male narrator has it and I can't listen to that either.

When you hear glimpse of the person speaking without it you realise how much more pleasant it is to speak normally. It makes me want to clear my throat, like others have said.

Regarding lifting up the end of sentences to sound like questions, I've been aware from a young age that Australians and New Zealanders do this so definitely been part of their natural voice for decades. But it seems to have spread to local secondary schools here in the UK.

NebulousSadTimes · 04/02/2026 10:29

Bauds1 · 04/02/2026 00:41

Agree! In Nz everyone speaks like that here. In my field I have to coach students to talk without rising inflection as the examiners are from the UK and will mark the students down because they sound uncertain.

I've come to the conclusion that in some people it might be an attention seeking thing? because they want you to answer their question?, to show that you are understanding what they're saying?

😩

ExquisiteSocialSkills · 04/02/2026 10:43
Go Season 9 GIF by Curb Your Enthusiasm

@NebulousSadTimes

Like they’re asking ‘Do you know what I mean?’ ?

NebulousSadTimes · 04/02/2026 10:49

Yes @ExquisiteSocialSkills , frequently.

Bauds1 · 06/02/2026 06:05

ExquisiteSocialSkills · 04/02/2026 10:43

@NebulousSadTimes

Like they’re asking ‘Do you know what I mean?’ ?

Yes, and also in some cases it’s because they want to sound unthreatening or un- confrontational

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