NHS calls in exorcist

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That's correct.

An exorcist has been called in by the NHS to a hospice because of many paranormal incidents and sightings of the ghost of a girl in a red dress, witnessed by staff and also patients.

You'd think there has to be something in this right? And if not, what on earth could be going on?

Hysteria is a common fear response and seems the most likely explanation given that the environment is a hospice.

AI result….
"Hysteria," or more accurately modernly defined, mass psychogenic illness or high-stress states, can lead to seeing ghosts through a combination of extreme psychological pressure, suggestion, and the brain's tendency to interpret ambiguous sensory input as threats. Rather than an external, spiritual phenomenon, these sightings are often the brain's way of processing intense fear, grief, or social stress by projecting mental images into the environment.

My mum died in my house a few year’s ago and not a dicky bird since. I can walk into that room and there is zero woo, even though my mum was a believer in that stuff herself. My dog never reacts in there either.

Does anyone ever report hauntings in multi million pound ultra modern houses or apartments, even though they are still built on old land? I doubt it.

I worked in Stobhill years ago, another old hospital in Glasgow. There were always stories of ghosts being seen.
It was mainly the old Nightingale wards.
Sadly the old hospital is just ruins now.

I was visiting a relative in the old part of the GRI a few years ago.
I looked out the window of the ward, onto an old graveyard! I thought, not very appropriate to have a Care of the Elderly ward looking onto a graveyard!!

The Necropolis- a well known old graveyard is next to the GRI, there is a lot of history there.

Yeah, and they only appear in creepy places at creepy times. You never see one in Tesco at 11am on a Tuesday morning.

Jesus, I’d think ‘What kind of dopes are running this place that they can’t just tell staff to get a grip?’

Do CofE clergy charge for a visit? I don't think so. I would think they would make fairly frequent visits to a hospice anyway.

You’re making assumptions in line with your beliefs though. Plenty of people in modern houses report problems (and are helped), but they don’t talk about it because of people’s reactions. It’s embarrassing.
Modern places built on old burial grounds are often associated with bad experiences, or steps are taken during building them to deter unpleasant experiences. There’s a shopping centre in Singapore built in a specific shape to assuage the ghosts that might have been disturbed in the building of it.

Personally I believe in it all- our brains story telling to fill in the gaps, not yet recognised/understood energy/science, and maybe the tiniest smattering of actual weird woo.

But whether you believe it’s rubbish or whether you believe there’s something in it, we still cherrypick evidence that backs up what we think.

Lots of hospices are run by the NHS including this one.

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of the existence of ghosts. That’s not ‘cherrypicking’. The evidence doesn’t exist.

Incorrect, although they generally receive some NHS funding.

If you reread, the poster says that people don’t report ghosts in modern houses, neither when people die there nor when modern buildings are built on graveyards. I pointed out they do report them.
We tend to see/read what we want in line with our preconceptions. My post didn’t refer to evidence ghosts exist. It talked about people seeing what they expect, including that poster.

And people wonder why the NHS is on it's knees.......
Money down the drain and the place has since closed down.

Absolutely, definitely haunted.
I used to hate taking people to Rose cottage at night with the porters.
I also worked on the ward on the other side of the road that had the story of the dead airman- there was something on the ward and patients saw him.

Spot on

CoE don't charge for this. We had it done in our old house.

They report, but that isn’t any kind of evidence! The ‘woo’ threads on here are a mishmash of things ‘remembered’ from childhood, sleep paralysis, dogs and small children behaving like dogs and small children, dreams, things misunderstood because of darkness and being half-asleep, someone being nervy in a new or isolated environment and stringing unrelated things into a ‘haunting’ narrative, superstition, wishful thinking and fear of death etc etc. None of it stands up to any scrutiny.

What's the scientific explanation for why a person's watch or clock will stop at the time of death, every year, but start working again? This is widely verified and I didn't believe my grandmother until after she died and their clock did indeed stop at the time if my grandfather's death. I'm not sure if we just imprint within the atmosphere, but I've seen and heard (from credible sources) enough to think that sometimes, something of us, electrical energy etc is left behind. I did see the outline of my DH after he died, I certainly didn't want to and it terrified me. I've had and known of people who had messages from dead relatives and the medium couldn't have known.

You too are making assumptions in line with your beliefs, that is human nature. I’ve never seen or felt ghosts in any situation (hospitals, old buildings, new buildings, death in my own house), so I have nothing to go on. As a kid I loved the idea of ghosts so would have been very open to seeing one, but it’s never remotely happened, despite both parents and all my aunts and uncles now being gone (and all religious), there’s not been so much as a whisper.

I’d have thought there would be hundreds of ghosts milling around, not just one child, if it was a hospital.

Our church also brought one in as we kept seeing an old man sitting at the organ. This was before my eldest was born, so about 16-17 years ago.

The Diocese sent their exorcist around but the (living) organist at the time objected mightily because he liked having the chap around. I confess I did also. But I'm pretty relaxed about ghosts (if they exist- which i believe they do).

I don't know, if I was mentally unwell or really ill, and saw a priest walking round spreading what ashes or whatever it is, I think I'd feel I was either closer to death than I thought, or get confirmation bias that the world is full of evil spirits!

If it puts everyone’s minds at rest, it’s probably worth it. Also sounds like it’s free of charge.

More likely to be the Telegraph taking delight in running down the NHS.

I’m not making any assumptions, simply pointing out that no evidence of any kind has ever emerged for the existence of ghosts in any setting. I’d be fascinated if it did emerge, or if I encountered something I couldn’t explain, and am open-minded to it, but zilch — even though a notorious murder took place on my first floor landing, the house is a perfectly ordinary, creaky, draughty Victorian house. I also spent many months living entirely alone on an island in the only habitable house in a ruined village that had been evacuated in the 1950s, after some horrible, needless deaths because the sea was too rough to get the person to a doctor. I was often cut off for weeks at a time in bad weather, and there was no electricity. Still no ghosts, though the sound of the seals on the rocks could sound very eerie.

Right, but people do report sightings in new builds, modern apartments built on old haunted sites (some mentioned on this thread). So you thinking they don’t is incorrect and doesn’t undermine whatever it is people think they see.

I don’t believe, but have had an experience that related to a story I only heard after the fact. Infinite monkey cage suggests that over a lifetime, a weird coincidence will happen and still be just that.

As PPs have said, the brain does amazing things. Mine sees people in snowfall. When I’m driving in falling snow, my brain creates people dashing across the road right in front of my car.

None of which means that there couldn’t be as yet undiscovered phenomena. You disregard things that don’t tie in with your experience. I prefer to accept that there may be more to it all than we understand at the moment.

Very few people die at home.

That isn’t what they will have done or seen. They will have talked to people, prayed with them, and blessed the building and everyone in it. They are trained not to encourage or inflame people’s fear/expectations. They will be settling and reassuring, not chanting and waving a cross.