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To think we shouldn’t have to contribute to soch if we don’t intend to use it?

737 replies

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:03

For example, I don’t want a state pension - so I should surely be able to opt out of soch based contributions percentage. And just pay a lesser amount to cover anything I do take advantage of.

OP posts:
Grammarnut · 27/01/2026 23:48

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:58

Well that would be most people then

No, it would not.

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:48

SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:47

I’m just amused at your inability to spot the piss being taken.

BlackCatDiscoClub · Today 22:57
'Soch' is in the Scottish dialect, its used as an exclamation for when you find out how much of your tax went on keeping pensioners alive

TOUcHE!

i don’t care for urine related toilet humour

Toch!!!

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w0nderingpm · 27/01/2026 23:49

Boudy · 27/01/2026 22:46

'think you’ll find I know how to spell it the MOST'😂

This was my fave. Knew this thread would be fun, thanks OP

SouthernNights59 · 27/01/2026 23:49

Grammarnut · 27/01/2026 23:28

But you have used the health service. You benefit, for example, from having diseases that you might catch and die of being cured and prevented by the NHS. You benefit from the vaccination programme used in this country which confers herd immunity as long as 95% of people are vaccinated. You benefit from a healthy work force. You benefit from the fact that your wages are not partly sequestered by your employer to pay into private health insurance that you will lose if you change jobs, which means you are able to be paid a higher wage.

Oh please don't take everything so literally. I was agreeing with the pp that we can't pick and choose what we contribute to via our taxes, and I never said I didn't benefit from our health service (I don't live in the UK), merely that I have never used the hospital. If you want to argue with someone why not do so with the OP who is the one who came up with this ridiculous idea.

ItsNotYou852 · 27/01/2026 23:50

Thanks OP, I really needed this tonight!
Though I am sort of wondering how come I'm struggling along on minimum wage instead of 75K, when I can spell, understand how NI works, and that there is no such thing as a non NHS user in the UK.

ChristmasStars · 27/01/2026 23:50

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:13

It’s self explanatory

It's not. Did you make it up? I don't know what Soch means.

Boudy · 27/01/2026 23:50

Thank you op..took me a while😆 Thanks all 😁

Boudy · 27/01/2026 23:51

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:48

i don’t care for urine related toilet humour

Toch!!!

😁

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:51

ItsNotYou852 · 27/01/2026 23:50

Thanks OP, I really needed this tonight!
Though I am sort of wondering how come I'm struggling along on minimum wage instead of 75K, when I can spell, understand how NI works, and that there is no such thing as a non NHS user in the UK.

Well look, obviously I was born NhS and prob immunized too. But didn’t mean I have to use them when I like to self treat. So

OP posts:
Grammarnut · 27/01/2026 23:51

1apenny2apenny · 27/01/2026 22:37

I am happy to contribute for things that support society, to an extent. The issue I see is that those actually contributing are being expected to give more and more whilst governments give those not contributing more and more. They also in my view seem to encourage things that cost a lot but that don’t seem to benefit society as a whole eg lifting the 2 child cap.

At some point I have no doubt that those contributing will be told that actually they can’t have some of the things they need because there isn’t enough to go round and that’s when it will go very badly indeed - eg the state pension and healthcare.

Lifting the two child cap (and removing the rape clause it implies re a third child) would benefit society. More money will be spent on children in shops, cafes etc and children will be properly fed and clothed. It is no benefit to society for children not to be properly fed, clothes and brought up.

FrodoBiggins · 27/01/2026 23:51

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:16

I’ve never said to duly opt out. Just that I’d like a discount for what I will not benefit from.

The problem with that, you see, is that you'll never know how much you benefited from until the moment you die. Well, after you're dead actually given that the state has to certify your cause of death. So no time to give you the discount.

Personally I am a net contributor at present- pay lots of tax, have no children and am lucky enough to be in good health with private health cover. If that persists until I'm about to die I plan to try to "get my money's worth" by expiring in the most complicated way possible and forcing the state to hold a wide ranging inquest at great public expense. Definitely a jury, lots of expert evidence, site visits to a number of distant locations, ballistics demonstrations... well you get the idea.
It's only fair.

RampantIvy · 27/01/2026 23:52

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:27

Stop being facetious. You all know full well what soch/sosh is.

And you can stop being a smartarse.
Lots of us didn't know what soch meant. My google search didn't bring anything up that was relevant to this thread.

Using buzzwords doesn't make you sound very clever.

SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:52

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:48

i don’t care for urine related toilet humour

Toch!!!

Sorry?

I was just reflecting back your own language. In the spirit of solidarity of course.

slozenger · Today 23:00
Tigerbalmshark · Today 22:59
£17k in tax. So that’s about £75k per year.
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Well I am already earning more than that. So I am a net contributor. TOUcHE

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:52

FrodoBiggins · 27/01/2026 23:51

The problem with that, you see, is that you'll never know how much you benefited from until the moment you die. Well, after you're dead actually given that the state has to certify your cause of death. So no time to give you the discount.

Personally I am a net contributor at present- pay lots of tax, have no children and am lucky enough to be in good health with private health cover. If that persists until I'm about to die I plan to try to "get my money's worth" by expiring in the most complicated way possible and forcing the state to hold a wide ranging inquest at great public expense. Definitely a jury, lots of expert evidence, site visits to a number of distant locations, ballistics demonstrations... well you get the idea.
It's only fair.

That sounds like a good idea to be honest I like your train of thought

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slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:53

SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:52

Sorry?

I was just reflecting back your own language. In the spirit of solidarity of course.

slozenger · Today 23:00
Tigerbalmshark · Today 22:59
£17k in tax. So that’s about £75k per year.
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Well I am already earning more than that. So I am a net contributor. TOUcHE

You said the piss being taken? Urine related humour does nothing for me.

it is vulgarian

OP posts:
Grammarnut · 27/01/2026 23:54

velvetgeranium · 27/01/2026 22:44

You could just say, sorry, you made a mistake - instead of being arsey and accusing posters of comprehension problems.

And you didn't spell it both ways for others. You got it wrong, spelling it "soch" in your title and then a further three times. Switching it to "sosh" didn't change much, as nobody recognised that either.

Sosh is a budget-friendly arm of telecommunications giant Orange apparently.

I thought it was Sanskrit.

BlackCatDiscoClub · 27/01/2026 23:54

I have to go to sleep now and be a Nod Contributer but this thread has been so much fun! OP you've been a really good sport so I'm awarding you the equivalent of two Freddos rebate on your tax

SkipAd · 27/01/2026 23:54

Really have to go to bed now, but thank you so much to so many of you very clever and witty women. This has cheered me up hugely on this miserable January Tuesday. Hats off to you all

Vaxtable · 27/01/2026 23:56

I could say I want to pay for schooling, free childcare, free school meals, or anything else child related as I don’t have kids, I could say I don’t want to pay for adult social care, social workers , civil servants or anything else my taxes pay, but I do because that’s the way it is

If you don’t want the state pension then don’t claim it. But you are still going to have to pay up

SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:56

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:53

You said the piss being taken? Urine related humour does nothing for me.

it is vulgarian

Is that like being a fruitarian but more sweary?

Count me in!

FrodoBiggins · 27/01/2026 23:56

Same here. Zzz. Night @skipad, night @BlackCatDiscoClub

Ironically this thread did make me feel part of a society. A society of piss-takers, sure. But a society nonetheless.

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:57

What is a synonym for vulgarian?

Synonyms. bawdy boorish crass crude dirty gruff nasty obscene off-color raw ribald rude scatological vulgar.

OP posts:
SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:59

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:57

What is a synonym for vulgarian?

Synonyms. bawdy boorish crass crude dirty gruff nasty obscene off-color raw ribald rude scatological vulgar.

Coprolites to you too.

slozenger · 28/01/2026 00:00

SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:59

Coprolites to you too.

Oh because I’m old you call me fossil feaces nice

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ChristmasStars · 28/01/2026 00:00

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:13

Well I’m not going there am I.

  1. Don’t want to
  2. Self treat myself for 40 years and hasn’t failed me.
  3. Will not go out if unwell

Well I hope I'm not an eye witness if you ever have a nasty car accident and treat your own broken leg or fractured skull.