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Reform person says I'm not necessarily British although born in UK. How can I tell?

136 replies

PaperBlueCornflower · 27/01/2026 18:43

How can I tell if I and my children are British according to their definition?

If I might turn out not to be, and DS might turn out not to be could I be thrown out? Where to?

AIBU to be puzzled and a bit worried?

After all a lot of people seem to think Reform will be the next government.

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curtaintwitcher78 · 27/01/2026 19:05

Pollqueen · 27/01/2026 18:48

This sounds a bit hysterical 🤣

Why would you laugh at someone's worry?

Clearinguptheclutter · 27/01/2026 19:07

If you consider yourself British that’s good enough for me

I get the angst though

Boxoffrogs21 · 27/01/2026 19:07

InterestedDad37 · 27/01/2026 18:51

They may get in, which I can't believe I'm actually writing, but they won't last 5 minutes, and Brits will simply not accept any attempts at authoritarianism - we'll just laugh in their faces, and riot them out of town 👍

That’s what the Americans said, but it turns out that the majority seem to be quite happily letting it happen or at least turning a blind eye…

PaperBlueCornflower · 27/01/2026 19:07

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 27/01/2026 18:56

Do you like Marmite?

Do you like Marmalade?

Do you make a good cup of tea which doesn’t involve the microwave?

Do you complain about the weather?

Do you complain about the tv?

Do you complain in general?

I’m so sorry but you’re British. No escape from it.

Yes,yes, yes, not really but I do converse on the topic quite willingly, no, unfortunately I no longer partake, up to a point but room for improvement.

Many thanks, most helpful.

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ExtraOnions · 27/01/2026 19:08

Have you ever been Morris Dancing ?

Do you know what a May Pole is for ?

Have you shinned up any lampposts recently ?

Who do you support at Cricket ?

PaperBlueCornflower · 27/01/2026 19:09

FruAashild · 27/01/2026 18:50

I wouldn't worry, there's 3 and a half years till the next election, that's a very long time indeed in politics. And if Reforms were to win and they were to start throwing out British nationals because of their skin colour I can't see them lasting very long.

🤞🏼

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LarkspurLane · 27/01/2026 19:09

This man has not even been elected and is not the favourite in the by-election.
Almost half of is constituency would fit his ethnic minorities stance.

Wait til he gets in at least before getting too worried.

Ohthatsabitshit · 27/01/2026 19:09

Where you born after 1984?

InterestedDad37 · 27/01/2026 19:10

BlueJuniper94 · 27/01/2026 19:04

Brits absolutely do tolerate authoritarianism

In some ways, but not the blatant sort.

NotThatSerious · 27/01/2026 19:10

I would hope to be thrown out 🤣 this country is a mess

Query12 · 27/01/2026 19:10

It is already the case that someone born in the UK is not necessarily British. If both their parents are not British they might not be British

PaperBlueCornflower · 27/01/2026 19:11

DamnUserName21 · 27/01/2026 18:50

What was the immigration status of your parent's when you were born? They need to have ILR, I believe, at the time of your birth for you to have British citizenship.

There is no automatic British citizenship at birth like the US.

I'm not sure for the one who wasn't born here, they arrived quite a long time ago when the rules were different. I wonder how I could find out.

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PaperBlueCornflower · 27/01/2026 19:12

Ohthatsabitshit · 27/01/2026 19:09

Where you born after 1984?

No

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Query12 · 27/01/2026 19:12

https://www.gov.uk/British-citizenship go to the second heading for the current situation

StarlightRobot · 27/01/2026 19:12

If you are a British citizen then you are naturalised British, regardless of where you were born. If you were born here, you are British because you were born in Great Britain. The man is an idiot but unfortunately idiots may vote for him.

IncompleteSenten · 27/01/2026 19:13

Do you think they'll offer us fifty grand to fuck off like the bnp said they would?

If thats per person, thats 200,000 which would set us up nicely in kenya. I might take the bastards up on it.

Query12 · 27/01/2026 19:14

StarlightRobot · 27/01/2026 19:12

If you are a British citizen then you are naturalised British, regardless of where you were born. If you were born here, you are British because you were born in Great Britain. The man is an idiot but unfortunately idiots may vote for him.

That is not correct. You can be born in the UK and not be British.

Catterbat · 27/01/2026 19:17

InterestedDad37 · 27/01/2026 18:51

They may get in, which I can't believe I'm actually writing, but they won't last 5 minutes, and Brits will simply not accept any attempts at authoritarianism - we'll just laugh in their faces, and riot them out of town 👍

Pfft you’re joking aren’t you? We’ll just roll over and take it like we always do.

PaperBlueCornflower · 27/01/2026 19:19

ExtraOnions · 27/01/2026 19:08

Have you ever been Morris Dancing ?

Do you know what a May Pole is for ?

Have you shinned up any lampposts recently ?

Who do you support at Cricket ?

I could be in trouble here. Can I substitute Wassailing for Morris Dancing?

Did Maypole at Primary school (before safety guidelines came in, probably would have been lethal if it fell over. Also In and Out the Dusty Bluebells).

Shinning up any kind of post a bit out of my skill set.

Cricket, very tricky, not really a sports fan (see earlier non TV watching).

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DamnUserName21 · 27/01/2026 19:21

Per the above recommended govt site:

Born in the UK or a British colony before 1 January 1983

You’re usually a British citizen automatically if you were born in the UK.

There are 3 exceptions. You will not be a British citizen if:

your father was a diplomat working for a foreign country

your mother was a diplomat working for a foreign country and you were born on or after 10 April 1968

your father was an ‘enemy alien in occupation’ in the Channel Islands during World War 2

JohnBullshit · 27/01/2026 19:21

I thought this post would be about the Goodwin tosser. I hope people begin to see sense. It doesn't seem like the kind of constituency where he'd have a hope, but God knows plenty of people are hanging on to vague promises about making Britain all better, just like when they were kids and could play on concrete and broken glass without a care in the world.
I have quite recent forebears on both sides of my family who weren't British and weren't born in the UK. Twentieth century arrivals. I'm a British citizen, and so were my parents. We are white though, so funnily enough nobody tells us to go back where we came from.

StandFirm · 27/01/2026 19:21

It's the ethnic cleansing bullshit being peddled by the fascists in the US and creeping over here. That rhetoric is what's not British. FFS.

BoyHowdy · 27/01/2026 19:25

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/01/2026 19:04

I guess you are thinking we are going to go exactly the same way as the US. We won’t. We have a massive human rights legal system here, so there’s no way they would be able to push through the kind of policies Trump has pushed through. Stop worrying.

That’s a bit naïve. The issue with Trump is that he’s not following the law.

Charlize43 · 27/01/2026 19:25

Settled status, ILR?

One of the contract jobs I worked, I handled a lot of passports and processed a lot of share codes (now eVisas) and I was surprised to see that so many people had settled status, ILR. Very Interesting migration trajectories of birth countries like Sierra Leone, Ghana, Guinea Brisseau, Bangladesh, but holding Spanish, Italian & Portuguese passports and then finding on processing their share codes that they now had Settled status ILR (Indefinite Leave to Remain) in the UK.

Does anyone know the percentage of people is of Settled Status ILR now in the UK? I did seem like a surprisingly high number of the candidates that I processed that had it.

Moonmelodies · 27/01/2026 19:26

If you were born in China would you be Chinese?

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