To reckon that Reform will win the next election, and to be utterly terrified about it? 😪

[mumofoneAloneandwell]

i am a leftie

I think they’ll win

If don’t, they’ll have the majority in a hung parliament and govern as a minority party before joining with the Tories.

i’m going to tighten my belt re running my home and prepare for onslaught as the country becomes unrecognisable

I think you’ll find that the biggest threat the Farmers, by far, are supermarkets, and thier collective buying power. The European markets are much more difficult to get into, so they are at the mercy of the big buyers.

It’s not inheritance tax that’s the problem, it’s people expecting cheap food (but much easier to point at Government Policy, than to spend more on a higher welfare chicken)

The Chagos island situation came about under the last government, and we are required to abide by the court judgments.

You don’t really think these defecting Tories are going to risk letting Farage near an actual election. One of them, let’s put our money on Jenrick’s ego, will challenge him for the leadership pretty soon.

Reform do meet the criteria to be considered fascist. They certainly celebrate and push authoritarian agendas.

I've never been a Corbyn voter or supporter.

There comes a point where getting squeamish and not calling a spade a space becomes massively problematic. Worth looking at the fallacy of being tolerant of intolerance.

One of the issues regularly flagged with parts of the left and the Labour party in the past has been the competitiveness over who is the most left wing person on the left. I'm not and have never been a part of that. I hover between slightly left or slightly left of centre depending on policy.

I'm not sure. I think they are all hoping to be on a front bench. And will be loyal until they are JB power. But I cannot see that playing out in anything but a negative way. The way Reform is structured is also unconventional - more like a shell corporation than a political party.

yes the access is free and I can contact them. I do have a long wait on the phone but that’s due to cuts

I agree there are issues with current access to NHS. And NHS backlogs. But Reform would privatise the NHS and reduce access.

I think a number of other parties have better approaches to NHS reform than selling it off.

All the Tory defections should trigger by elections in their constituencies, they were not voted in as Reform candidates so how can they just switch to Reform and keep their seats? It's not what their constituents voted for.

In First Past the Post you vote for the candidate individually, not the party. Which means MPs retain their seat even if they cross the floor or have the whip removed. It was a system set up before we had the diversity of parties we currently do. Many voters also think it terms of who they want as PM and vote accordingly, even though that isn't technically who they are voting for. Ideally we'd have electoral reform into a system that is easier/ clearer to follow and good political education/ media that reports accurately. But... That's been something people have been trying to sort for a few decades.

I don’t have any issues accessing a GP, and never had. I can ring at any time tomorrow, I will get traiged by a Dr, and if I need to I’ll come in and see them, or they might perscribe meds, or suggest something else.

I have a well managed GP surgery, who employ a great practice manager, and have processes that aren’t out of the ark.

It is bollocks though, a good deal of that is either shite or already backfiring, like breakfast clubs. They say they are doing it but completely underinvesting. That never works.

"Not everyone who votes for Reform is a right wing bigot fascist sympathiser."

Great. Stop worrying then.

Same with our GP surgery, and as for the NHS dentists there isn’t even a waiting list to join…

Well I'm going to sing Labour's praises with the NHS. Have just been through an unpleasant but necessary ordeal and I was seen and diagnosed quickly. Wes Streeting is fantastic.

Yes, the dentistry situation is dire

All the ones that have gone over are UBER CUNTY. Like a cunt on steroids.

I hope they all kill each other in some sort of hunger games conference

I honestly think they are all as bad as each other- I don’t trust and party and I do t feel represented by any of them

I won’t be voting which I see does make me per of the problem but they are ll the same

No chance. This country is dominated by the Left. They run academia, the arts, the BBC, the publishing industry and the entertainment industry, and they now have one priority - stop Reform.

As for being “terrified” 🙄, I don’t know what you’re talking about. I constantly hear the word ‘fascist’ thrown at Farage. Frankly, I don’t know how the Left have got the nerve. They’re the fascists. The Left have IMPOSED mass immigration on this country, and they have IMPOSED a new identity on us. No one asked for it, and no one voted for it. Now that’s fascism. It isn’t Reform who are stopping people speaking on university campuses, and it isn’t Reform who are re-writing the history books, or demanding novels be removed from the bookshops, or dictating what we can say and think. It isn’t Reform who are ‘de-colonising’ the libraries and demonising our national heroes and teaching us to be ashamed of our history and culture.

Though they pose as morally superior, no one on earth is more dictatorial, intolerant or hate-filled than the Left. But because their hatred is directed towards Daily Mail-reading ‘NIMBYs’, somehow that’s OK.

I feel labour has been catastrophic for my household

my 16 year old can not get a part time job and he applied for hundreds - she has a zero hour contract with a hotel where she has worked a few shifts over Christmas and that’s it.

the level of tax my husband pays frankly takes the piss as we can not access a gp, the roads are awful (pot holes and floods)
and the public transport is non existent.

Im public sector and have never felt more let down by a government- I voted labour and just feel so let down

the green electric car I got- I am swapping back to petrol as the tax is
high and it’s not going to be economical to have.

DAPPY777

the same number, about 75000 people have come to the UK on small boats to seek asylum in the last 2 years as the previous 2 years of the Tory government

I get you don’t like it but Tories as bad as Labour in the actual numbers 🤷‍♀️

Who is demonising which national heroes?

I don’t want Reform in but Labour are doing an appalling job and now we’re out of the ‘give him chance, it’s not even been a year yet’ stage, I can confidently say, he’s making a right old mess. More debt, more unemployment and spends most of his time shitting himself about Reform and posting drivel about reform.

There’s absolutely nobody good imo.

I sincerely hope they do.

As a Scot I think it would would help our case for independence

I used to worry about it but I’ve decided to are less. I would never vote Reform but if people do then that’s their lookout!

I share your worries, particularly someone with long-term illnesses/disabilities.
The voting is currently 52-48. Hmm, where have we seen that before? How did it go again? 🫣