So upset about ICE killings in Minnesota

[Allotmentblackfly]

So upset about the killings. No investigation and victim blaming from the Trump administration. I see no hope for America. Trump will cancel the midterms possibly elections or will rig them. The most powerful western country - one we thought was our friend is dying
im so sad for the bereaved and do sad for the country

The majority of Americans are not happy with it. A clear majority (63%) disapprove of the way ICE is behaving.
www.nytimes.com/2026/01/23/us/politics/poll-ice-immigration.html

CBP have a history of misconduct too, going back many years. Particularly sexual abuse.

ICE aren't acting within the law. There have been many violations of people's constitutional rights.

They've sent 15% of ICE's entire manpower to this one place. No where else has got those numbers of officers prowling the streets - though Chicago and Pottlsnd have both been attacked in the past by the federal government. Trump is trying to quash dissent in cities that oppose him. He is deliberately trying to stoke tensions in these cities to give him an excuse to send troops in.

@RingoJuice

On another thread on this subject, you posted what I have pasted below. The thread was filled before I could reply.

"My side voted for mass deportations and I fully expect they will happen. That’s ’my side’. Your side doesn’t care."

That is simply not true. That is just parroting Fox, Breitbart and OAN talking points.

Other voters just think there are other issues that are more important, Abortion was a big one in the last US election for example. You might think immigration is the most important issue. That other voters think there are more important issues does not mean they do not care.

And hey, federal abortion rights gone, a lunatic POTUS and administration, but at least brown people are being deported right ? Because that is what YOU voted for.

Murdering people in the street is wrong, no?

Actually I disagree that its because peole are even subconsciously thinking brown lives are worth less. Im brown. Im more shocked at this than I have been at all the horror that been occurring in the middle.east - not saddened but SHOCKED. Because this is America. They've always been the land of the free. They've had their differences from us in the UK but on the whole their daily lives have been more intertwined and similar to.ours. so yes. It IS more of a shock. And feels more like it could happen here too.

No one in the scene we all saw was "trying to block or attack federal agents". A woman (among others) was filming, agents attacked her, a nurse checked if she was OK and was murdered.

And that he was a legal gun carrier too. That brings all of the NRA types in too.

Even MTG recognises that this has gone too far.

Yet you will happily state that you voted for facism, are happy with ICE killing people as it's their own fault, and continue to spread disinformation about the information.

To vote for this from a distance, then sit back, deny it's happening while watching and cheering state sponsored murder is sickening to me.

The thing that shocks me is the blatant lying.

We are used to politicians being economical with the truth, but this is lying as a
power play and a test of loyalty. They know that we know that they are lying, but they want everyone to know that they don't care.

Is it because he’s a white man and a US citizen? Or because he is very clearly on the ground, pepper sprayed, hit several times in the face and disarmed of a weapon (that he never drew from its holster) when he is shot several times at point blank range?

This. But Fox News is already spinning madly to find a way to make both work.

Are you all ok in this thread? I’m not sure I’ve read more unhinged comments (from all sides) than I have here.

There was a rule against Catholics being armed. This is known about in the pro gun crowd, so they could pull that up, and just redefine what Catholics are.

Quote from the linked article below:

"The ruling then continues with this shocking explanation in reference to an 18th century law against Catholics: “The government offers several historical examples of laws that were enacted to disarm dangerous individuals, but the Court will discuss only one of the many analogues offered. In colonial Virginia, the legislature dictated that no Catholics ‘shall, or may have, or keep in his house or elsewhere, or in the possession of any other person to his use, or at his disposition, any arms, weapons, gunpowder or ammunition‘ because it was determined that ‘it is dangerous at this time to permit [Catholics] to be armed.’”"

Did you know there was a time in America when Catholics were banned from having weapons? Might we be close to it happening again? – non veni pacem

Perhaps you could advance the discussion by saying something substantive if you don’t agree with what’s being said?

Seriously it was a genuine question.

The only unhinged comments are the ones defending ICE. Even the NRA, Marjorie Taylor Greene - and by the look of things the White House itself - are going "whoa, this is too much".

But no, we're not OK. The country that styles itself "the land of the free" is executing peaceful protestors in the streets. That's a very good reason to be worried.

I don't understand how someone can be executed legally when they had unarmed him.

If you are serious you need to explain what you think is unhinged.

Minneapolis has big Somali population, this must have something to do with the overkill, literally, of ICE thugs flooding the streets, UK sits in shadow of US, rise of Reform and all right wing propaganda is bloody terrifying

I think the fact that the thread was Godwined in the 2nd post speaks for itself and then it went downhill from there from both sides.

If a government is killing citizens without due process or investigation and blatantly lying about things that can be easily checked, what comparison should be used?

No, it speaks for the way things are going in the USA.

So not ok in this thread. Good luck 👍 I’d suggest stepping away from the news for a while.