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So upset about ICE killings in Minnesota

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Allotmentblackfly · 24/01/2026 23:55

So upset about the killings. No investigation and victim blaming from the Trump administration. I see no hope for America. Trump will cancel the midterms possibly elections or will rig them. The most powerful western country - one we thought was our friend is dying
im so sad for the bereaved and do sad for the country

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StandFirm · 26/01/2026 15:51

Sexentric · 26/01/2026 14:01

Actually I disagree that its because peole are even subconsciously thinking brown lives are worth less. Im brown. Im more shocked at this than I have been at all the horror that been occurring in the middle.east - not saddened but SHOCKED. Because this is America. They've always been the land of the free. They've had their differences from us in the UK but on the whole their daily lives have been more intertwined and similar to.ours. so yes. It IS more of a shock. And feels more like it could happen here too.

And it WILL if Reform (aka MAGA UK edition) get in. It will follow the same formula and the same performative cruelty.

RedTagAlan · 26/01/2026 15:55

saltinesandcoffeecups · 26/01/2026 15:48

So not ok in this thread. Good luck 👍 I’d suggest stepping away from the news for a while.

Sure thing. Uninformed voters are just what democracy needs just now.

Trump loves uninformed voters. They are his base.

StandFirm · 26/01/2026 16:00

RedTagAlan · 26/01/2026 15:55

Sure thing. Uninformed voters are just what democracy needs just now.

Trump loves uninformed voters. They are his base.

Well, but even then at some point educate themselves - even just through doing their shopping- and then they turn on him. Alternative facts can only take you so far...

DdraigGoch · 26/01/2026 16:23

saltinesandcoffeecups · 26/01/2026 15:48

So not ok in this thread. Good luck 👍 I’d suggest stepping away from the news for a while.

I'd suggest that ICE and CBP steps away from Minneapolis.

RedTagAlan · 26/01/2026 16:23

StandFirm · 26/01/2026 16:00

Well, but even then at some point educate themselves - even just through doing their shopping- and then they turn on him. Alternative facts can only take you so far...

Ohh many of them are educated. They are very learned on their " alternative facts"

I reckon they are similar to flat earthers. Many of them know a massive amount about their version of earth. The same with fundie Christian Young Earth Creationists. The latter making up a big chunk of Trumps staff. They can be expert at arguing against real facts.

DeepBlueDeer · 26/01/2026 16:26

Playingvideogames · 25/01/2026 10:41

ISIS murdered hundreds of thousands of people in the most grotesque ways.

I’m appalled by this grotesque summary execution but this stinks of ‘1 white life is worth many brown lives, hence we can compare a lesser killer of white people with the bigger mass slaughter of brown people’

Are you genuinely under the impression that Alex Pretti's murder is the only deeply disturbing action to come out of the Trump administration?

1dayatatime · 26/01/2026 16:33

StandFirm · 26/01/2026 15:51

And it WILL if Reform (aka MAGA UK edition) get in. It will follow the same formula and the same performative cruelty.

I don't think that there's much chance of Reform getting elected. I mean Labour councils are busy cancelling local elections for this year.

It doesn't matter what the opinion polls say, Reform voters can't elect Reform councils if there's no election!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2ggk333l4o?app-referrer=deep-link

Secretary of State for Housing, Communities and Local Government Steve Reed walks across Downing Street. He is grinning, with closely cropped grey hair and stubble. He wears a navy overcoat, a white shirt and a red paisley tie.

Twenty-nine English councils to delay elections, minister confirms

A major shake-up of local government is underway and postponing ballots is intended to help deliver that reorganisation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2ggk333l4o?app-referrer=deep-link

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 16:33

Raspberrymoon49 · 26/01/2026 15:36

Minneapolis has big Somali population, this must have something to do with the overkill, literally, of ICE thugs flooding the streets, UK sits in shadow of US, rise of Reform and all right wing propaganda is bloody terrifying

No. Very few of the Somalis are deportable as they came in on visas (they were not asylum seekers).

Trump yanked TPS but it should have been done 15 years ago. Now they are there and anyway this is outside ICE’s remit. They are there for the Bidenwave illegal aliens.

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 16:37

RedTagAlan · 26/01/2026 16:23

Ohh many of them are educated. They are very learned on their " alternative facts"

I reckon they are similar to flat earthers. Many of them know a massive amount about their version of earth. The same with fundie Christian Young Earth Creationists. The latter making up a big chunk of Trumps staff. They can be expert at arguing against real facts.

I kind of doubt this. Who specifically are you thinking of?

Anyway the left can hardly cast stones here, seeing as they don’t seem to know the difference between the male and female sex.

They also don’t seem to understand the difference between a legal and illegal alien.

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 16:40

DdraigGoch · 26/01/2026 16:23

I'd suggest that ICE and CBP steps away from Minneapolis.

It will just embolden leftists to believe they have a ‘riot’ veto. Things should go on as normal, but with Minneapolis PD for crowd control.

These protesters must understand that they cannot get their way by throwing tantrums in the street. Or we’ll just get more of these idiots in the street.

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 16:43

DdraigGoch · 26/01/2026 13:44

They've sent 15% of ICE's entire manpower to this one place. No where else has got those numbers of officers prowling the streets - though Chicago and Pottlsnd have both been attacked in the past by the federal government. Trump is trying to quash dissent in cities that oppose him. He is deliberately trying to stoke tensions in these cities to give him an excuse to send troops in.

Texas does more deportations with fewer people, because local law enforcement is totally aligned. You so much as get a DUI and you’ll find yourself detained and deported in TX.

It’s not hard to understand.

nicepotoftea · 26/01/2026 16:51

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 16:40

It will just embolden leftists to believe they have a ‘riot’ veto. Things should go on as normal, but with Minneapolis PD for crowd control.

These protesters must understand that they cannot get their way by throwing tantrums in the street. Or we’ll just get more of these idiots in the street.

It will just embolden leftists to believe they have a ‘riot’ veto

I rather think it's the intentional and blatant lying and lack of oversight that is making people feel as thought they have no option but to monitor ICE.

If the government lie like this when there is video evidence of what is happening, what are they prepared to do out of sight of the public?

nicepotoftea · 26/01/2026 16:53

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 16:43

Texas does more deportations with fewer people, because local law enforcement is totally aligned. You so much as get a DUI and you’ll find yourself detained and deported in TX.

It’s not hard to understand.

It's what happens to American citizens with no criminal record that is causing concern.

RedTagAlan · 26/01/2026 16:53

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 16:37

I kind of doubt this. Who specifically are you thinking of?

Anyway the left can hardly cast stones here, seeing as they don’t seem to know the difference between the male and female sex.

They also don’t seem to understand the difference between a legal and illegal alien.

Oh look. Deflection and whataboutism, rather than discuss the content of the post.

Plenty of YECs in Trumps admin. Rubio for example, or he was.

DeepBlueDeer · 26/01/2026 16:58

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 16:43

Texas does more deportations with fewer people, because local law enforcement is totally aligned. You so much as get a DUI and you’ll find yourself detained and deported in TX.

It’s not hard to understand.

Law enforcement being totally aligned with a department who, by policy, routinely carry out illegal and unconstitutional actions is something Texans should be disturbed by.

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 17:05

RedTagAlan · 26/01/2026 16:53

Oh look. Deflection and whataboutism, rather than discuss the content of the post.

Plenty of YECs in Trumps admin. Rubio for example, or he was.

Rubio is very effective in his role however. Not like Ben Carson lol who is a known creationist and anyway not affiliated with the second admin.

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 17:09

DeepBlueDeer · 26/01/2026 16:58

Law enforcement being totally aligned with a department who, by policy, routinely carry out illegal and unconstitutional actions is something Texans should be disturbed by.

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No, it makes the process go smoothly and safely. Minneapolis should try it.

Chief O’Hara needs to take notes from Chicago’s PD superintendent. I think his tone is why you aren’t seeing any trouble in Chicago

x.com/theofficertatum/status/2010734834855911892?s=46&t=LHu5hEVEgoG4lIIfMesJGA

nicepotoftea · 26/01/2026 17:10

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 16:37

I kind of doubt this. Who specifically are you thinking of?

Anyway the left can hardly cast stones here, seeing as they don’t seem to know the difference between the male and female sex.

They also don’t seem to understand the difference between a legal and illegal alien.

Anyway the left can hardly cast stones here, seeing as they don’t seem to know the difference between the male and female sex.

Imagine a world where you can have a government that both recognises the reality and consequences of sex and doesn't shoot you in the street! Does it have to be either/or?

They also don’t seem to understand the difference between a legal and illegal alien.

ICE agents certainly seem to have been inadequately trained on this point.

DeepBlueDeer · 26/01/2026 17:10

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 17:09

No, it makes the process go smoothly and safely. Minneapolis should try it.

Chief O’Hara needs to take notes from Chicago’s PD superintendent. I think his tone is why you aren’t seeing any trouble in Chicago

x.com/theofficertatum/status/2010734834855911892?s=46&t=LHu5hEVEgoG4lIIfMesJGA

Why should law enforcement ensure that illegal actions go smoothly?

I'd say that runs directly contrary to the whole point of having law enforcement, wouldn't you?

LlttledrummergirI · 26/01/2026 17:10

StandFirm · 26/01/2026 15:51

And it WILL if Reform (aka MAGA UK edition) get in. It will follow the same formula and the same performative cruelty.

Reformatory are very unlikely to be voted in in the UK. There are many reasons, not least good people will point out every hole in the policies and every similarity with Trump.

Just because bots and dodgy polls say they are on the up, it doesn't mean it's true. Challenge is every time you see it, self fulfilling prophecies can be stopped. Call it out every time for the rubbish it is.

nicepotoftea · 26/01/2026 17:11

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 17:09

No, it makes the process go smoothly and safely. Minneapolis should try it.

Chief O’Hara needs to take notes from Chicago’s PD superintendent. I think his tone is why you aren’t seeing any trouble in Chicago

x.com/theofficertatum/status/2010734834855911892?s=46&t=LHu5hEVEgoG4lIIfMesJGA

Generally a police department is not 'operating smoothly' when it is supporting illegal actions.

RedTagAlan · 26/01/2026 17:12

RingoJuice · 26/01/2026 17:05

Rubio is very effective in his role however. Not like Ben Carson lol who is a known creationist and anyway not affiliated with the second admin.

You have to agree that YECs do have a defo advantage when it comes to telling outright lies in the face of irrefutable facts. Their religion trains them in it.

Eastie77Returns · 26/01/2026 17:12

abricotine · 26/01/2026 14:22

Is it because he’s a white man and a US citizen? Or because he is very clearly on the ground, pepper sprayed, hit several times in the face and disarmed of a weapon (that he never drew from its holster) when he is shot several times at point blank range?

It’s because he’s a white man and a US citizen. This is what has caused an outcry from even Conservatives who I guarantee would have remained silent if the victim was Black and killed in the same circumstances. It is what is causing many Liberal white Americans to worry because Alex Preeti “looks like me” or “he could be my son/husband/brother” When the victim is Black or Brown it’s easier for white people to dissociate and comfort themselves that this couldn’t happen to them.

Why do you think thousands of white women in this country took to the streets when Sarah Everard was murdered and Kate Middleton went to lay flowers for her but none of that was done for the two black women murdered in equally shocking and grotesque circumstances by a strangers shortly before Sarah? Sarah looked like the protesters so they identified with her. But they could not and would not identify with the Black women. The sisterhood only stretches so far.

nicepotoftea · 26/01/2026 17:14

LlttledrummergirI · 26/01/2026 17:10

Reformatory are very unlikely to be voted in in the UK. There are many reasons, not least good people will point out every hole in the policies and every similarity with Trump.

Just because bots and dodgy polls say they are on the up, it doesn't mean it's true. Challenge is every time you see it, self fulfilling prophecies can be stopped. Call it out every time for the rubbish it is.

The Reform candidate for London Mayor has just posted a picture echoing the Trump/penguin/Greenland meme.

I don't know what she is smoking.

StandFirm · 26/01/2026 17:14

LlttledrummergirI · 26/01/2026 17:10

Reformatory are very unlikely to be voted in in the UK. There are many reasons, not least good people will point out every hole in the policies and every similarity with Trump.

Just because bots and dodgy polls say they are on the up, it doesn't mean it's true. Challenge is every time you see it, self fulfilling prophecies can be stopped. Call it out every time for the rubbish it is.

You are right - I am the first to believe that they are being hyped up - I just wouldn't want to underestimate the threat. By the way, Reformatory rhymes with suppository.