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Elder daughter father giving rules about my younger kids

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Dazedandconfusec · 24/01/2026 12:04

My elder daughter is 12 and Grade 5 piano and flute and began guitar in an afterschool club at school last year. She gave up violin when the teacher moved house but still has two violins which she occasionally gets out.

My ex has facilitated her music and has bought all of the instruments and paid for lessons but I obviously had to facilitate the lessons for flute; the piano teacher comes to the house.

My younger daughter elder daughter’s half sister, has now started piano at school. Elder daughter has locked piano as her dad has instructed that my younger children cannot use the piano or have use of the other instruments.

OP posts:
NorthXNorthWest · 24/01/2026 21:13

Vivi0 · 24/01/2026 15:51

Telling the OP she is the controlling one, when her ex is dictating what she can and cannot do with items in her own home, is gaslighting.

As for the rest. lol.

Whatever makes you feel good about yourself.

You do realise this is AIBU. The clue is literally in the title and subheading: ‘Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions.’ It's mad that so many people get upset when it is not an echo chamber.

This isn’t really about sharing. It’s about boundaries in a blended family, and about a child with a non resident parent whose life has already been disrupted being allowed to keep something that’s hers.

The piano is a personal gift from her dad. It has meaning. Being large and in a communal space doesn’t magically turn it into a community asset. The OP was perfectly within her rights to say no at the point the piano was offered, but it has now been in the house over 2 years.

The OP has already said she took her eye off the ball with her daughter during the transition to becoming a blended family. The daughter may be ‘back on track’ now, but it clearly caused a noticeable disruption. Pushing this issue now, when the daughter probably wouldn’t feel able to say no, feels like a backward step. With time she may change her mind or she may never change her mind and that should be respected.

After all the upheaval, it’s not unreasonable for the daughter to have some things that are hers without pressure to share. It’s the mother’s job to manage the half sister’s expectations. That’s a life lesson in itself. Life is messy and inconvenient at times, and sharing is reasonable in some contexts and not reasonable in others.

The only person trying to gaslight is you. I don't need your validation.

beeautifullif3 · 24/01/2026 21:14

Im with the ex , if your new children want a piano you and your new husband can buy them one

FairKoala · 24/01/2026 21:16

Whilst the piano might be hers and she would be quite within her rights to lock it if it was in her room but as it is in a communal room and her siblings are learning to play then either she can let them practice on the piano or as it is too big it will need to be removed and 2 smaller pianos brought in if she insists she can’t share.

She cant expect everyone in the house to be dictated to by what she will or won’t allow.
There isn’t the space for her df’s over sized gift and his and her insistence that her siblings are treated differently to her.

She needs to understand her father doesn’t have her best interests at heart

As much as he only wanted her to be an only child, the reality is she isn’t. And him buying that piano and insisting only she can use it gave no thought to the hurt it would cause her when she would have to get rid of it because she isn’t allowed to share.

It’s all designed to make you look like the baddie and to build walls between her and her siblings so she can live the only child fantasy he has regardless of the damage it would cause her

BunfightBetty · 24/01/2026 21:20

Holdinguphalfthesky · 24/01/2026 21:07

I disagree that there’s never been any abuse. I think this situation looks like one created by someone who is coercively controlling. I think anyone who openly says their ex should have preserved their life in aspic and never gone on to have new relationships and other children is controlling, and anyone getting their 12 year old child to tell her mother that her siblings are not to use the piano that’s in their house is also controlling and coercing the 12yo. Sorry, but I think it sounds really fucked up. She’s going to end up a mass of stress and confusion with this going on.

Does he also try and tell you what to have for dinner on Friday nights? Or who to be friends with? He seems to think he’s entitled to criticise your relationship and your fertility, even though you obviously aren’t with him now. That’s outrageous!

anyone who openly says their ex should have preserved their life in aspic and never gone on to have new relationships and other children is controlling, and anyone getting their 12 year old child to tell her mother that her siblings are not to use the piano that’s in their house is also controlling and coercing the 12yo.

This is spot on. Personally, I wouldn’t be pandering to it and I’d be taking a keen interest in guiding the elder DD’s sense of morals and ethics. What’s being modelled by the father is toxic.

BunfightBetty · 24/01/2026 21:27

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 21:09

Ah, my apologies. I believed you more likely to actually mean that over the more…unwise alternative. I remain unsure as to what point OP would be making by levying a threat they both will know to be entirely hyperbolic and empty. That would be OP lashing out, which is not the same thing as being uncowed.

Who said anything about breaking and entering? Presumably he can employ a company to arrange the removal. Not sure why that’s supposed to be onerous, unless you anticipate OP trying to keep hold of it?

OP’s daughter doesn’t want to share it, and OP cannot make her want to, or make her actually do it. She isn’t going to blame her father for it being removed, but her mother and siblings. If anything she will see her father as being the one standing up for her. She can also choose to do exactly what OP does not want her to do, and spend more time with her father in order to use the piano at one of his houses.

OP’s daughter doesn’t want to share it, and OP cannot make her want to, or make her actually do it

She absolutely could make her do it, and she quite possibly could help her come to a point of understanding where she gets that sharing and thinking about others is beneficial. But OP sounds too frightened to upset her elder DD in case the elder DD flounces off to Daddy.

OP’s being controlled here. How much by the father and how much by the child (coached by the father) isn’t clear. However I’d be super worried about a teen DD being coached to be selfish and go against her mother. It may satisfy the father’s need for control and to be vindictive, but it very much isn’t in the long-term interests of the DD.

It’s a tricky situation for OP, but being too submissive isn’t the way forward if she cares about her DD’s long-term development.

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 21:28

FairKoala · 24/01/2026 21:16

Whilst the piano might be hers and she would be quite within her rights to lock it if it was in her room but as it is in a communal room and her siblings are learning to play then either she can let them practice on the piano or as it is too big it will need to be removed and 2 smaller pianos brought in if she insists she can’t share.

She cant expect everyone in the house to be dictated to by what she will or won’t allow.
There isn’t the space for her df’s over sized gift and his and her insistence that her siblings are treated differently to her.

She needs to understand her father doesn’t have her best interests at heart

As much as he only wanted her to be an only child, the reality is she isn’t. And him buying that piano and insisting only she can use it gave no thought to the hurt it would cause her when she would have to get rid of it because she isn’t allowed to share.

It’s all designed to make you look like the baddie and to build walls between her and her siblings so she can live the only child fantasy he has regardless of the damage it would cause her

She doesn’t ’need’ to understand any such thing about her father, who for all we know is standing up for his daughter who doesn’t want her siblings using the piano. OP said her daughter wouldn’t be able to unilaterally challenge her about it, so asked the person who could to advocate for her.

She’s a person in her own right, and OP wanting her to share her perspective on sharing with siblings does not mean she can be forced to. The piano is in OP’s home because she and her ex agreed to facilitate their shared child being able to use it at her main residence. It isn’t OP’s piano, or communal family property.

Soontobe60 · 24/01/2026 21:33

Dazedandconfusec · 24/01/2026 15:26

I don’t think buying my younger daughter a keyboard is treating her as a second class citizen.

If I remove a good piano and force my elder daughter to share an inferior one I think that would potentially have a worse consequence.

It’s not the same as having children who are full siblings. It’s more nuanced.

Really? I have two daughters who are half sisters. As far as myself and they are concerned, they are absolutely full siblings!

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 21:33

BunfightBetty · 24/01/2026 21:27

OP’s daughter doesn’t want to share it, and OP cannot make her want to, or make her actually do it

She absolutely could make her do it, and she quite possibly could help her come to a point of understanding where she gets that sharing and thinking about others is beneficial. But OP sounds too frightened to upset her elder DD in case the elder DD flounces off to Daddy.

OP’s being controlled here. How much by the father and how much by the child (coached by the father) isn’t clear. However I’d be super worried about a teen DD being coached to be selfish and go against her mother. It may satisfy the father’s need for control and to be vindictive, but it very much isn’t in the long-term interests of the DD.

It’s a tricky situation for OP, but being too submissive isn’t the way forward if she cares about her DD’s long-term development.

How exactly can she make her share? Physically remove the key from her? Prevent her from telling her father, and/or prevent him from retrieving his own property? Yeah, that would work out well for her.

Op is the one who, if she did what you’re suggesting, would be trying to assert a power she does not have over something that does not belong to her. What she has power over is whether it remains in her house or not.

The daughter’s long term development? As if OP attempting to lay down the law means that she’d have to fall into line and adopt the opinions you believe she should hold. If anything it would cement resentment, not generosity.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 24/01/2026 21:45

I think OP you can do the “my house my rules” - a piano kept in a communal room is for everyone to use. You can insist it’s just for lessons or supervised practice for now for dc2, but tell your dd that her dad doesn’t get to dictate what happens in your home. If he doesn’t want the piano used by all the household members then he can remove it. But you won’t tolerate anyone other than your and your DH making the household rules and certainly not your 12 deciding what happens.

DD1 has to give you the key.

tell your ex that you don’t think he was trying to control what happens in your household or deliberately cause a rift with dd and her siblings, but that’s what he’s doing. That you’ve worked hard to make sure dd1 never feels different because she has a different dad to the others but stuff like this will make problems. What’s best for dd1 is for her to be happy and feel part of her own family.

localnotail · 24/01/2026 21:54

I love how people defend blended families... they obviously work so well. The older girl is obviously brought up not to see her younger siblings as her equals, or even family, by the look of it. What a mess.

I would get the fucking expensive piano out of my house and get the one everyone can use (I cant even imagine what that piano is, if its so expensive?) But it looks like OP is happy to support the older DC's idea that she is special and her younger siblings are not.

ThisIsAGlobalPlayerOriginalPodcast · 24/01/2026 22:04

localnotail · 24/01/2026 21:54

I love how people defend blended families... they obviously work so well. The older girl is obviously brought up not to see her younger siblings as her equals, or even family, by the look of it. What a mess.

I would get the fucking expensive piano out of my house and get the one everyone can use (I cant even imagine what that piano is, if its so expensive?) But it looks like OP is happy to support the older DC's idea that she is special and her younger siblings are not.

A refreshing change from the norm where the first child is a suitcase kid while their parents start their “real” families…

PollyBell · 24/01/2026 22:06

So buy you other children their own musical instruments, blended families work for adults

99bottlesofkombucha · 24/01/2026 22:16

Dazedandconfusec · 24/01/2026 15:26

I don’t think buying my younger daughter a keyboard is treating her as a second class citizen.

If I remove a good piano and force my elder daughter to share an inferior one I think that would potentially have a worse consequence.

It’s not the same as having children who are full siblings. It’s more nuanced.

It is more nuanced and you’re reacting the wrong way. She can go to that house to practice sometimes. She’s 12 and grade 5, even if she were 12 and grade 7 as you say she might have been without the siblings she wouldn’t be a prodigy and future concert pianist. There are many 9,10 year olds who are past grade 8 piano (& also grade 5 on another instrument) and these are the ones who gets the scholarships etc as the promising talent. Both you are your ex are parenting badly and the grown up dynamics of your children will show this.

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 22:17

localnotail · 24/01/2026 21:54

I love how people defend blended families... they obviously work so well. The older girl is obviously brought up not to see her younger siblings as her equals, or even family, by the look of it. What a mess.

I would get the fucking expensive piano out of my house and get the one everyone can use (I cant even imagine what that piano is, if its so expensive?) But it looks like OP is happy to support the older DC's idea that she is special and her younger siblings are not.

Steinway, Bechstein, Ritmüller, Yamaha…there’s many it could be. A baby grand. If OP has it removed her daughter may very well follow it, and that is something OP adamantly does not want to happen.

OP has more than one child, but only one of her children has a wealthy parent able and willing to provide for her what OP and her husband cannot offer to their shared children.

harriethoyle · 24/01/2026 22:26

Dazedandconfusec · 24/01/2026 15:45

We simply do not have the money to buy half the value of the piano.

If I took away this piano forcing my daughter to use an inferior one, what would I say to her?

She’s only grade 5 and she’s already 12. A prodigy she is not. Strongly suspect that you’re keeping the piano for the kudos of having a Steinway or whatever equivalent it is and it has bugger all to do with not wanting your daughter to play an “inferior” instrument 🙄 I’m getting Hyacinth Bucket vibes here!

notacooldad · 24/01/2026 22:40

She’s only grade 5 and she’s already 12. A prodigy she is not. Strongly suspect that you’re keeping the piano for the kudos of having a Steinway or whatever equivalent it is and it has bugger all to do with not wanting your daughter to play an “inferior” instrument 🙄 I’m getting Hyacinth Bucket vibes here!

Blimey, thats a burn!

Isadora2007 · 24/01/2026 22:58

notacooldad · 24/01/2026 22:40

She’s only grade 5 and she’s already 12. A prodigy she is not. Strongly suspect that you’re keeping the piano for the kudos of having a Steinway or whatever equivalent it is and it has bugger all to do with not wanting your daughter to play an “inferior” instrument 🙄 I’m getting Hyacinth Bucket vibes here!

Blimey, thats a burn!

It’s true though. A 12 year old G5 isn’t really
much of a flex tbh and certainly doesn’t indicate anything except a kid who has had a few years of lessons. My sister sat her g5 around that age and her G8 age 15- didn’t even go on to do anything with music. My son only began music age 10 and is G5 now age 13 and barely practices, lazy little shitebag. He is musical and has a talent but is not gifted. Sounds like the op dd is harder working and enjoys music which is good, but she isn’t anything special based on this.

notacooldad · 24/01/2026 23:04

It’s true though. A 12 year old G5 isn’t really much of a flex tbh and certainly doesn’t indicate anything except a kid who has had a few years of lessons

I have no idea whats good or not but the comment made me laugh!

aloris · 24/01/2026 23:30

You said the piano bought for your 12 year old by your ex is "remarkable." My conclusion from this is that your ex saw an opportunity to drive a wedge between his child and your younger children by creating a situation where it would be almost impossible for you to say "no" to a conspicuously expensive piece of equipment.

Because this piano is so "remarkable" (a baby grand, if I interpret your other posts correctly), it would be near impossible for you to decline it or remove it because it would be depriving your oldest child of a valuable and beautiful musical opportunity. If you do remove it, your ex will be able to use it as leverage to convince your daughter (a) that you don't love her as much as your younger kids (because you took away her piano), (b) that you don't care about her musical talent and (c) that she should consider living with her dad or even cutting contact with you because of your "favoritism" towards the younger children.

The problem is that, if you keep the piano, then you are shoving your oldest child's much greater resources in the faces of your younger children, day after day. A significant part of the space in your home is being taken up by an instrument they aren't allowed to use. This is WAY beyond asking your 12 year old to share her toys with her siblings. This is your own home being used as a way to show your younger kids that they are "less than." In their own home.

You might be able to make this work if you frame it to your younger children as "You are getting a keyboard because you are just starting piano. We don't want the fancy piano to get broken by accident. If you stick with piano, we'll re-evaluate." You don't have to tell them that what you'll re-evaluate is NOT whether they get to use Ella's piano, but whether Ella's piano stays in your home or gets sent to her dad's home.

If your younger children stick with piano, I really do not see how you can keep this expensive piano around. Eventually, the younger children will see very clearly that Ella is favored and that there is a behemoth being allowed to take up a LOT of space in their home that they can't use because you are letting Ella be the Golden Child in your home.

Worralorra · 24/01/2026 23:34

Tell him to remove the piano immediately from your house, after he has paid the rent for the room it has been taking up in YOUR house for however long it has been there. If he won’t pay rent, it’s available for anyone you choose to allow to use it!

Mumwithbaggage · 24/01/2026 23:42

This is one of the oddest posts I've seen on here.

I was grade 8 violin at that age and not the only one at school. Yea Grade 5 is decent. Tiger parenting? Who knows but the whole thing is so very far from the normal family life we have at home.

For reference, have just said dc4's boyfriend can borrow my electric guitar and amp. Even found a jack lead. OK, wouldn't have let him use my violin but only because he can't play it.

Those poor poor kids being manipulated like this. Utterly mad. They will need therapy for this. Why not buy every child a piano? That would solve everything.

InterIgnis · 25/01/2026 00:06

Worralorra · 24/01/2026 23:34

Tell him to remove the piano immediately from your house, after he has paid the rent for the room it has been taking up in YOUR house for however long it has been there. If he won’t pay rent, it’s available for anyone you choose to allow to use it!

And he can then turn around and charge her for renting the piano from him.

Yeah, that isn’t how that works, and that isn’t something she should do unless she’s fucking stupid. She can’t retroactively charge him for something she agreed to keep at her house, and that he agreed to provide, for their daughter’s benefit. Nor could she assume ownership of it because he, rightly, would not pay.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 25/01/2026 00:11

I hadn't realised it was a baby grand. You let your ex put a baby grand in your living room and then say only DD is allowed to play it? Bloody hell, that's like letting your ex buy DD a climbing frame treehouse swingset that covers half your garden and then saying none of the other children are allowed to play on it.

Ohnobackagain · 25/01/2026 00:15

Sorry @Dazedandconfusec but your ex has no say what goes on in your house. It can be the eldest’s but you can’t allow ‘only’ her to play it. However, you can maybe agree with ex- that younger ones need to be at a certain stage and ability before they can use it, or when old enough to take very good care of it. And older daughter can help younger one and set rules - eg no drinks near piano and so on. It’s a bit different with smaller instruments - people have their own and can be more in control and can let others have a go but take it back/keep it in their room. Ex also needs to stop this nonsense that you having more kids holds her back - awful example for your oldest daughter.

Jopo12 · 25/01/2026 00:27

Dazedandconfusec · 24/01/2026 12:04

My elder daughter is 12 and Grade 5 piano and flute and began guitar in an afterschool club at school last year. She gave up violin when the teacher moved house but still has two violins which she occasionally gets out.

My ex has facilitated her music and has bought all of the instruments and paid for lessons but I obviously had to facilitate the lessons for flute; the piano teacher comes to the house.

My younger daughter elder daughter’s half sister, has now started piano at school. Elder daughter has locked piano as her dad has instructed that my younger children cannot use the piano or have use of the other instruments.

Your ex is exercising coercive control over both you and his daughter. It's absolutely awful that he is forbidding a girl from letting her sister use the piano. What life lesson does that teach her? This is something that you must overcome.

The ex must remove his piano from your house and there are ways to get a decent piano at a reasonable cost.

I'm a piano teacher, and I wi recommend Mark Goodwin pianos, with branches I. Manchester and Battersea. He often has bargain decent pianos and genuinely wants to ensure every pianist has access to a decentpiano.

I hope you manage to resolve this

Jo

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