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AIBU to invite my mum over more than MIL?

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mumtoegt · 22/01/2026 14:32

I’m a SAHM with three children aged 6, 3 and a newborn. Since my first child was born, my mum has been very involved, both in a “fun grandma” way and in a very practical and supportive way, especially around births and during particularly intense periods. My husband runs his own business, works long hours.

Around the time each baby was born, she was the person who came over to support me. She cooked, cleaned, did laundry, held the baby so I could rest, and made sure I ate. When my second was born I had a difficult and quite scary birth, struggled with breastfeeding, was bleeding a lot, leaking milk, and walking around bra-less most of the time. My mum was the one who dealt with the messy realities, washing bloody sheets, cooking while I fed the baby, and generally helping me get through that phase. I simply would not have felt comfortable with my MIL doing that, and realistically she would not have offered anyway.

Outside of those periods, my mum still comes over more often, largely because we have a close relationship and we want to see each other. She also tends to come with the intention of taking some of the load off me. That might look like coming over to do some cooking so I can take the kids to the park for longer, helping out on a rainy day during holidays when looking after three kids indoors feels like a lot, or doing the school run if one child is teething or unwell. It is very much about practical help rather than being hosted.

Because of this, my mum has naturally spent more time in our home and, by extension, with the children. She is not coming over specifically to see the kids. She is coming over to see me and help out, and the kids are part of that. This is also not something that started because I had children. Even before kids, my mum would come over to see me, although less to help out and more to just hang out, see her daughter. My MIL never really did, and the relationship has always been more formal and distant.

In contrast, my MIL tends to come over expecting to be hosted. She expects a cup of tea, biscuits, and conversation. She wants the visit to be pleasant and sociable for her. She likes the kids to engage with her and perform a bit, showing her things, playing nicely, and interacting on her terms (ie she’ll sit on the sofa and want the kids to play around that sofa, keep telling them to be careful around her hot tea and not to bring anything mildly messy near), but she does not come over to take pressure off me. I generally find her visits more work than help.

Recently my MIL has started making comments that the kids are closer to my mum than to her, and implying that this is because I have not made enough effort to foster that closeness. I find this upsetting and unfair. I am already stretched thin with three small children, and I do not feel it should be my responsibility to engineer a relationship when the difference seems to come from fundamentally different approaches. My husband is also taking MIL’s side because in his eyes he provides very well financially (which is true) but at the expense of working very long hours and he simply doesn’t have the time to come home at 3-4pm so that MIL could have a decent length visit before bedtime. He sometimes works on weekends, and when he doesn’t we try to enjoy family time or squeeze in activities that we’d like to do as a whole family, like a short holiday or an event.

I also feel that, particularly with young children and a newborn, it is reasonable to prioritise support over entertaining guests, and that it is natural I gravitate towards the person who genuinely helps and the person I’m comfortable to be myself fully around.

So am I being unreasonable, or is my MIL being unfair by blaming me for a dynamic that has largely been shaped by her own behaviour?

OP posts:
Pasta4Dinner · 22/01/2026 18:54

I agree with PP. I’d get DH to ring her and ask if she can babysit. ‘Can you come over Thursday to look after 6 year old as I need to pop out with the other two’. We’re going out on Wednesday.
He can’t complain if she says no to him. You need to get him to ask.

But doesn’t she also want to see her son sometimes?

Duveet · 22/01/2026 20:28

First off you have a cheeky fxxker husband.
My husband has a huge job, long hours, travel and looked after all 3 children, including a 6 week old newborn for 10 days, when I was very seriously ill post partum, with NO FAMILY WHATSOEVER to help him.
It was difficult for sure.
But he did it.
Yours can't even look after 2 for more than a few hours.
Your bar is really low.

You are blessed with your fabulous mother, and your MIL is another CF thinking she can be lady bountiful visiting a family of perfect children.🙄

I suggest you leave your children to their useless father for a full day and see what he thinks about you hugely appreciating the extra pair of hands your mother is as you try and look after 3 children for long days.

I can tell you my husband positively embraced returning to his busy job, endless meetings etc., after I was able to take back over.
It did our marriage no harm at all.

cantthinkofagoodusername1 · 22/01/2026 20:30

It's not on you to facilitate this relationship, it's on your DH.

Hmmmnmmn · 22/01/2026 20:48

If you explain the difference between DM and DMIL to DH you will never win.
I have to say what I would do is when he comes home get super excited and say "omg I've thought of loads of things that my mum has done with the kids that has made the kids really bond with her so I know it would work for your mum too! Should I buy baking stuff or does she want to do xyz instead? Only problem is that if I'm here I'll end up watering down their bond so make sure she's comfortable with me leaving while they have fun together, perhaps I'll leave her with only 2 of them first to make it manageable for her, I will do whatever she wants though, I'm so excited call her now to set it up!"
How will they complain if you are just very eager to facilitate it? Also, imagine if it gets her stuck in and actually works make them bond?

kohlrabislaw · 22/01/2026 22:21

Good question from pp. @mumtoegt
in a scenario where you are out for the morning having coffee with a friend and your DH had the kids and his mum. Is she expecting him to do everything or is she being useful with the kids?

HazelMember · 23/01/2026 07:37

kohlrabislaw · 22/01/2026 22:21

Good question from pp. @mumtoegt
in a scenario where you are out for the morning having coffee with a friend and your DH had the kids and his mum. Is she expecting him to do everything or is she being useful with the kids?

DH can't cope with his kids on his own.

It is a DH issue not a MIL issue. OP is criticising MIL when her DH can't manage with more than one child (yet still decided to have 3 for some reason).

mumtoegt · 23/01/2026 14:15

@Hmmmnmmn
I’ve actually done a version of what you’ve suggested - messaged the group chat (myself, DH, PILs) saying that I’ve thought of an idea, would MIL like to come over and bake with the oldest 2, whilst I go out for a walk with the pram one afternoon after school when eldest finishes early. MIL came back, privately to DH, saying that she’s happy to come over for a coffee and cake or “to dip in and out of the activity” (by which she means she will observe, take a few pictures, maybe do 1 cookie cutter with the 6 year old so it isn’t too messy, before sitting back down so I can clean the mess, wash the hands, calm any tantrums or stop them throwing the flour at each other etc) but she’s not at the stage of her life where it’s reasonable for her to look after both kids fully. In those words pretty much. She’s in her early 70s for context, very fit, does 2 dance classes a week, constantly doing things or visiting friends, travels the world, walks everywhere as opposed to driving / public transport.

I also suggested to DH that I can go out for a brunch with my sister over the weekend, leave a bottle of pumped milk for the littlest (in all honesty I think the baby would sleep through most of the time I’m out), and his mum can come over to bond. He said that’s fine (because I don’t think he’d ever decline my suggestion of me going out) but I could tell he’s nervous about it (in fairness, as was I, when I had all 3 of them completely solo for the first time)… let’s see how it actually plays out. I can guarantee 100% she wouldn’t lift a finger but she may surprise us.

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JayJayj · 23/01/2026 14:26

I think I’d be tempted to write down everything your mum does. Every little detail. Then write down what his mum does. Then ask him to honestly tell you what he thinks is most helpful to you right now.

It is not your responsibility to form a relationship between grandparents. That’s for his mum to do. Of course your children are not as bothered by mil, they match energy. He also needs to be the one to help facilitate this.

I can guarantee that if you left him alone with all 3 and your mum then another day with his mum, he’d definitely choose yours in the future.

mumtoegt · 23/01/2026 14:32

@Unexpectedlysinglemum
It was never something that was “told” as such. It just comes up naturally. The kids will say things like “that place grandma took us” or mention baking a cake or doing something with her. She also comes up in normal conversation around practical things like “the lasagne my mum brought over” or if DH is showing her pictures of the kids and one is clearly either taken by my mum or includes my mum. At birthdays or family events my kids will ambush my mum with a hug when they see her, their chat clearly suggests they only met last week and interactions are clearly very friendly and familiar. Over time it’s just obvious from day to day life, rather than anyone sitting down and explaining it to MIL.

OP posts:
Littlejellyuk · 23/01/2026 15:57

mumtoegt · 23/01/2026 14:15

@Hmmmnmmn
I’ve actually done a version of what you’ve suggested - messaged the group chat (myself, DH, PILs) saying that I’ve thought of an idea, would MIL like to come over and bake with the oldest 2, whilst I go out for a walk with the pram one afternoon after school when eldest finishes early. MIL came back, privately to DH, saying that she’s happy to come over for a coffee and cake or “to dip in and out of the activity” (by which she means she will observe, take a few pictures, maybe do 1 cookie cutter with the 6 year old so it isn’t too messy, before sitting back down so I can clean the mess, wash the hands, calm any tantrums or stop them throwing the flour at each other etc) but she’s not at the stage of her life where it’s reasonable for her to look after both kids fully. In those words pretty much. She’s in her early 70s for context, very fit, does 2 dance classes a week, constantly doing things or visiting friends, travels the world, walks everywhere as opposed to driving / public transport.

I also suggested to DH that I can go out for a brunch with my sister over the weekend, leave a bottle of pumped milk for the littlest (in all honesty I think the baby would sleep through most of the time I’m out), and his mum can come over to bond. He said that’s fine (because I don’t think he’d ever decline my suggestion of me going out) but I could tell he’s nervous about it (in fairness, as was I, when I had all 3 of them completely solo for the first time)… let’s see how it actually plays out. I can guarantee 100% she wouldn’t lift a finger but she may surprise us.

I would go out for brunch and keep your phone on silent. Otherwise he may hound you if things go pear shaped, over trivial matters that he needs to learn to deal with head on, like a grown ass man. 😬

Be adamant, that you are not to be disturbed whilst with your sister, as you never have time to just be mumtoegt, but are always in fact 'mummy' 24/7. 👎

If it is an emergency, then he can either ring 999 or if its for advice he can ring NHS 111.
Set the boundary now. Let him flounder and realise he needs to step up massively. 💥

@mumtoegt

FeministThrowingAPrincessParty · 23/01/2026 16:13

mumtoegt · 22/01/2026 14:54

@LivelaughlurgyI have tried this, but she just does not really help in that way. When she comes along to outings, she tends to sit down and relax rather than get involved. At the playground she will usually sit on a bench watching, often on her phone, while I manage the kids.

If one of the children needs something and I suggest “Grandma will help you”, she tends to redirect them back to me. For example, if a child needs a wipe or help with shoes, she will say “just wait a minute, mummy will do it”, even when my hands are full with another child. It is a bit like having an extra adult there who is visiting, rather than another pair of hands.

In that case, do not worry at all. You have tried. Explain to your husband what you just wrote. Continue to invite her outings occasionally but I can imagine how annoying it is. Imagine seeing your DIL juggling two children and then telling the third that she will be along soon to help you. Unbelievable!

WhatNoRaisins · 23/01/2026 16:15

I think that you've done all you can here OP. If your MIL prefers to be more hands off then your DH can facilitate the relationship more. I get being a mum of small kids, you don't have the capacity to carry dead wood and it makes sense to prioritise people that make things easier for you.

Bear2014 · 23/01/2026 16:19

I do think it's a bit of a red flag that because your DH is the breadwinner he thinks he gets to dictate how you spend your days and demand that you entertain his mother. This isn't really on. Either he manages her expectations, OR prioritises facilitating her visits personally, OR he just needs to accept that it is what it is.

You also definitely need to let him figure it out for himself sometimes at the weekend when you go out or take some time for yourself. Presumably he wanted to have these children? You never had the luxury of saying '3 kids is a bit hard actually, I'll just let you deal with it'. If you're looking after the kids during the week and he is working, the weekends are equally for you both to have family time but also relax.

Christmaseree · 23/01/2026 16:36

Focca · 22/01/2026 16:01

Have you ever tried having them both over at the same time? It might make your Mil realise the difference if your Mum is beavering around helping and Mil is sitting on her arse.

This is a really good idea.

mustreadmorebooks · 23/01/2026 16:47

I had an ex MIL like this, who would visit, after I had been at work all day, in the middle of tea, homework, etc then moan that we hadn’t rolled out the red carpet, the kids weren’t interested enough and so on. It was like having an extra, particularly spoilt child in the house. I wouldn’t give it another thought and leave it to him to resolve or not.

Duveet · 23/01/2026 16:55

Well done OP.

NOW, stay out a good stretch.
You can't lose in this situation.

His mother will either sit on her arse and continue her lady bountiful routine which will hopefully piss him off, OR, she with pitch in and it will go really well and you can act all delighted and tell him it will now become a weekly thing which would be wonderful for everyone.

Either way your husband needs to cop on.
Its 2026, not the 1970's where men couldn't look after their children.

I would get the ick for any man so useless as to not want to actively be able to look after his own children.

The days are very long with 3 so young on your own.
Do not compromise on your mother involvement.

The idea that your husband thinks he can dictate your day is quite sinister and controlling too.
Be wary OP.

Good men do not do this.
They wouldn't dream of it.

mondaytosunday · 23/01/2026 16:59

The relationship with your mother has nothing to do with your relationship (or your kids’) with your MIL. Of course you are closer to and see you own mother more. It’s not a competition. If she wants a closer relationship to her grandkids maybe suggest she has the kids for an afternoon, just them? That’ll do it.

BruFord · 23/01/2026 17:10

takealettermsjones · 22/01/2026 14:56

It's not your responsibility, and of course the kids prefer Grandma who rolls her sleeves up and plays in the mud kitchen to Nana who sits on the sofa and tells them not to be messy 🤣

On the other hand though I don't think she should have to "earn" her visits, so to speak, by doing chores. I agree with @Livelaughlurgy in that I would just carry on with life, even while she's there. Hi MIL, we're just in the kitchen, come through. Etc

I agree with @takealettermsjones. Just get on with your day when she comes over, you can’t entertain her when you’re dealing with three children.

Your Mum’s level of support is exceptional, many people don’t ever have that amount of support tbh, so you realistically, you can’t expect it from other family members. You can keep asking your MIL to help out abit, perhaps one day she will. 🤞

90sTrifle · 23/01/2026 17:22

mumtoegt · 22/01/2026 14:32

I’m a SAHM with three children aged 6, 3 and a newborn. Since my first child was born, my mum has been very involved, both in a “fun grandma” way and in a very practical and supportive way, especially around births and during particularly intense periods. My husband runs his own business, works long hours.

Around the time each baby was born, she was the person who came over to support me. She cooked, cleaned, did laundry, held the baby so I could rest, and made sure I ate. When my second was born I had a difficult and quite scary birth, struggled with breastfeeding, was bleeding a lot, leaking milk, and walking around bra-less most of the time. My mum was the one who dealt with the messy realities, washing bloody sheets, cooking while I fed the baby, and generally helping me get through that phase. I simply would not have felt comfortable with my MIL doing that, and realistically she would not have offered anyway.

Outside of those periods, my mum still comes over more often, largely because we have a close relationship and we want to see each other. She also tends to come with the intention of taking some of the load off me. That might look like coming over to do some cooking so I can take the kids to the park for longer, helping out on a rainy day during holidays when looking after three kids indoors feels like a lot, or doing the school run if one child is teething or unwell. It is very much about practical help rather than being hosted.

Because of this, my mum has naturally spent more time in our home and, by extension, with the children. She is not coming over specifically to see the kids. She is coming over to see me and help out, and the kids are part of that. This is also not something that started because I had children. Even before kids, my mum would come over to see me, although less to help out and more to just hang out, see her daughter. My MIL never really did, and the relationship has always been more formal and distant.

In contrast, my MIL tends to come over expecting to be hosted. She expects a cup of tea, biscuits, and conversation. She wants the visit to be pleasant and sociable for her. She likes the kids to engage with her and perform a bit, showing her things, playing nicely, and interacting on her terms (ie she’ll sit on the sofa and want the kids to play around that sofa, keep telling them to be careful around her hot tea and not to bring anything mildly messy near), but she does not come over to take pressure off me. I generally find her visits more work than help.

Recently my MIL has started making comments that the kids are closer to my mum than to her, and implying that this is because I have not made enough effort to foster that closeness. I find this upsetting and unfair. I am already stretched thin with three small children, and I do not feel it should be my responsibility to engineer a relationship when the difference seems to come from fundamentally different approaches. My husband is also taking MIL’s side because in his eyes he provides very well financially (which is true) but at the expense of working very long hours and he simply doesn’t have the time to come home at 3-4pm so that MIL could have a decent length visit before bedtime. He sometimes works on weekends, and when he doesn’t we try to enjoy family time or squeeze in activities that we’d like to do as a whole family, like a short holiday or an event.

I also feel that, particularly with young children and a newborn, it is reasonable to prioritise support over entertaining guests, and that it is natural I gravitate towards the person who genuinely helps and the person I’m comfortable to be myself fully around.

So am I being unreasonable, or is my MIL being unfair by blaming me for a dynamic that has largely been shaped by her own behaviour?

You are one lucky lady to have so much practical help from your mother!

Entertaining is the last thing you want to do with looking after 3 kids. Why don’t you switch it round, go to your MILs and be entertained. You’ll get a break whilst she brings the tea and biscuits through and she entertains her DGC. They get to bond and you get time-off.

If she doesn’t like it, she’ll soon get-off your back and stop mentioning not having enough time with DGC.

HazelMember · 23/01/2026 17:23

Pasta4Dinner · 22/01/2026 18:54

I agree with PP. I’d get DH to ring her and ask if she can babysit. ‘Can you come over Thursday to look after 6 year old as I need to pop out with the other two’. We’re going out on Wednesday.
He can’t complain if she says no to him. You need to get him to ask.

But doesn’t she also want to see her son sometimes?

He can't look after the children on his own himself so a bit much to ask his DM to do it.

HazelMember · 23/01/2026 17:25

Duveet · 23/01/2026 16:55

Well done OP.

NOW, stay out a good stretch.
You can't lose in this situation.

His mother will either sit on her arse and continue her lady bountiful routine which will hopefully piss him off, OR, she with pitch in and it will go really well and you can act all delighted and tell him it will now become a weekly thing which would be wonderful for everyone.

Either way your husband needs to cop on.
Its 2026, not the 1970's where men couldn't look after their children.

I would get the ick for any man so useless as to not want to actively be able to look after his own children.

The days are very long with 3 so young on your own.
Do not compromise on your mother involvement.

The idea that your husband thinks he can dictate your day is quite sinister and controlling too.
Be wary OP.

Good men do not do this.
They wouldn't dream of it.

Edited

OP thinks her DH has a VERY IMPORTANT JOB which means she is happy to keep having children with him which he is incapable of looking after.

She would rather criticise the MIL for not stepping up. Anyone would think she married the MIL 😂

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 23/01/2026 17:37

I do worry about being the granny who isn’t fun or isn’t liked as much - because of the physical distance between ds1 and his family and us, we only see them 4 or so times a year, whereas my lovely DIL’s equally lovely parents live just round the corner and see them several times a week. I love that they have that support close by, especially when their twins were born last year, and dh and I do our best to see them as often as we can, and to make the visits as good as possible, but I am disabled, so physically can’t do the playing in mud kitchens or energetic games. I don’t want to feel I am doomed to be boring granny, but I fear I might be.

BernardButlersBra · 23/01/2026 17:39

Tulipsriver · 22/01/2026 15:07

Can you deliberately misunderstand?

"Oh MIL, I had no idea you wanted to help out more like my mum does. You seem to have such a lovely busy social life I never wanted to impose. Of course I'd love the help with the kids so you can build a closer relationship. Do you want to come and watch the little ones whilst I do the school run on Tuesday? Or maybe look after them all on Wednesday whilst I pop to the dentist? This is so lovely, I'm sure the children will love having you help with their homework/take them to the park/do bedtime like my mum does when she's over!".

Love this. Might need to borrow it! But swap MIL for mum

thepariscrimefiles · 23/01/2026 17:44

HazelMember · 23/01/2026 17:25

OP thinks her DH has a VERY IMPORTANT JOB which means she is happy to keep having children with him which he is incapable of looking after.

She would rather criticise the MIL for not stepping up. Anyone would think she married the MIL 😂

OP doesn't mind MIL not stepping up. She does mind her MIL complaining that she doesn't have the same very close relationship with OP's children that OP's mum does, because her mum is very hands on while her MIL just wants to sit and be waited on by OP.

What OP doesn't want is to be forced to host her hand-off MIL more than she does already, which is perfectly reasonable of her.

Duveet · 23/01/2026 17:45

HazelMember · 23/01/2026 17:25

OP thinks her DH has a VERY IMPORTANT JOB which means she is happy to keep having children with him which he is incapable of looking after.

She would rather criticise the MIL for not stepping up. Anyone would think she married the MIL 😂

Fair point.
However, I think anyone fit and able visiting a woman with very small children and expect them to be model children whilst you are served tea is a bit unrealistic.
Most grandparents, even those who don't provide any childcare whatsoever, might at least help a little bit.
She's a fit woman by all accounts.
Even if ig is playing with them and reading a book etc.,
She wants to be adored with zero imput.
Children tend to respond in kind, disinterested people quickly hold little interest to them.

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